Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Le lun 10/05/2004 à 14:51, James Moran a écrit : > Well there's alot to think about and research thanks. For what it's worth, I have tested Kirk DECT / VoIP solutions and they work very well (ref. IP600). The radio interface doesn't use Wifi at all, all the wireless part relies on DECT, and the VoIP part is H323 (based on Innovaphone's stack, which is very robust). Thus you can use the DECT repeaters to scale to the whole floor, and not worry about Wifi connectivity / security. Just my 2 cents... Paul ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Well there's alot to think about and research thanks. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 22:44, Jonathan Moore wrote: > Not sure if my other message got through. Wifi limitations with voip are a > function of # of concurrent active calls per access point (in addtion to which > codecs used). A single floor of the hospital might have many many access points. > If you just need a way to contact nurses on call, my guess is you would never > have all 30 phones active at once. This would be in your favor, since just > having a phone on and in standby is not going to eat up much bandwidth. Howeve > since peoples lives may be on the line the network would need to be really well > engineered and coverage would need to be designed with concurrent calls in mind > rather than the usual testing for signal strength. > > In addition to the generel active calls/AP issue there are protocols like SVP, > Spectra Link Protocol, that provide for some type of quality of service for > Wifi. I don't really recomend Spectra link, mainly because they wanted a $5000 > commitment just to demo their product. > > There is a qos spec for qos on wifi in the works, this won't magically make you > able to have more calls per AP, but it might help calls in session from being > starved out. I am pretty sure that what you want to do can be done at least with > the Spectra stuff, since I have talked to tech director of a new middle school > that is using this for their phone system. Every classroom teacher has one of > these and I think most of the other phone users in the building. > > Another little trick floating around is for the Linksys APs. Again not > necessarily recommending but there are custom firmware images (since they run > Linux) that provide QOS, I think there may even be an image with a builtin SIP > proxy. -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Nope I works differently, they use it in a few hospitals here in Sydney, basically it works like the new gsm 'push to talk' service being rolled out, basically limited number of frequencies, voice 'envelope' being delivered as a best case availability basis. It's not a 'held up' tdma style call flow that wifi phones are. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Mahler Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? I guess vocera doesn't have any RF engineers to tell them they can't do it. Paul Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signate, LLC PO Box 60430 Palo Alto, CA 94306 VoIP Systems, Training & Consulting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Musone Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Why not vocera? http://www.vocera.com they seem to have the exact product you are looking for and seem to primarily server hospitals.. -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:06 PM To: Asterisk Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Hmm I'll look into it. Thanks. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:54, John Fraizer wrote: > James Moran wrote: > > > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have > > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > > > >>James Moran wrote: > >> > >> > >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > >>> > >> > >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? > >> > >>John > > Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a > hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not > certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while > since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen > many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" with > the medical equipment. > > John > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Not sure if my other message got through. Wifi limitations with voip are a function of # of concurrent active calls per access point (in addtion to which codecs used). A single floor of the hospital might have many many access points. If you just need a way to contact nurses on call, my guess is you would never have all 30 phones active at once. This would be in your favor, since just having a phone on and in standby is not going to eat up much bandwidth. Howeve since peoples lives may be on the line the network would need to be really well engineered and coverage would need to be designed with concurrent calls in mind rather than the usual testing for signal strength. In addition to the generel active calls/AP issue there are protocols like SVP, Spectra Link Protocol, that provide for some type of quality of service for Wifi. I don't really recomend Spectra link, mainly because they wanted a $5000 commitment just to demo their product. There is a qos spec for qos on wifi in the works, this won't magically make you able to have more calls per AP, but it might help calls in session from being starved out. I am pretty sure that what you want to do can be done at least with the Spectra stuff, since I have talked to tech director of a new middle school that is using this for their phone system. Every classroom teacher has one of these and I think most of the other phone users in the building. Another little trick floating around is for the Linksys APs. Again not necessarily recommending but there are custom firmware images (since they run Linux) that provide QOS, I think there may even be an image with a builtin SIP proxy. -- Jonathan Moore Director of Technology Winfield Public Schools Office 620.221.5100 Fax 620.221.0508 Quoting James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > > James Moran wrote: > > > > > We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > > > > > > > And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > > Not an RF engineer, are ya? > > > > John > > ___ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- > James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Potential Technologies > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > Visit Winfield Public Schools at http://usd465.com - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
I guess vocera doesn't have any RF engineers to tell them they can't do it. Paul Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signate, LLC PO Box 60430 Palo Alto, CA 94306 VoIP Systems, Training & Consulting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Musone Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Why not vocera? http://www.vocera.com they seem to have the exact product you are looking for and seem to primarily server hospitals.. -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:06 PM To: Asterisk Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Hmm I'll look into it. Thanks. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:54, John Fraizer wrote: > James Moran wrote: > > > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have > > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > > > >>James Moran wrote: > >> > >> > >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > >>> > >> > >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? > >> > >>John > > Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a > hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not > certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while > since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen > many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" with > the medical equipment. > > John > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
John, Check out www.vocera.com instead then. Built for this exact situation. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2004 2:27 AM To: Asterisk Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > James Moran wrote: > > > We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > > > > And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > Not an RF engineer, are ya? > > John > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
James Moran wrote: We need to have about 30 phones on one floor I have seen a couple of test where people claim that wi-fi phone network should use max. 5 simultanoues calls per accesspoint or your audio will start to break up. I would take a look at www.kirk.com. They have a DECT basestation with H323 interface. You can register all your hand set on a single station and then use their DECT repeater to get the area coverage. Its expensive for a small system but with 30 handsets it should be comparable to wifi phones and you get at least 5 times the standby/talktime. my 2 cents. Freddi ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Symbol have the netvision line of h.323 wireless phones used in hospitals with multiple logins etc... , i have one here in my office and it works very well with a simple 3com officeconnect gateway, makes direct calls, have integration with various pbx.. a good product. www.symbol.com Miklos - Original Message - From: "Mark Musone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > Why not vocera? > > http://www.vocera.com > > they seem to have the exact product you are looking for and seem to > primarily server hospitals.. > > -Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:06 PM > To: Asterisk > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > > Hmm I'll look into it. Thanks. > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:54, John Fraizer wrote: > > James Moran wrote: > > > > > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to > have > > > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer > wrote: > > > > > >>James Moran wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > > >>> > > >> > > >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this > application? > > >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? > > >> > > >>John > > > > Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a > > hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not > > certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while > > since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen > > many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" > with > > the medical equipment. > > > > John > > ___ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- > James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Potential Technologies > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
I've actually engineered some WiFi at come medical clinics and it does depend on the gear you purchase. Cisco addresses this in their "marketing" and technical spec sheets. The two major hospitals in my area use wireless for their phones and mobile laptops for the nurses as they go room to room on a push cart. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Fraizer Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? James Moran wrote: > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to > have a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer > wrote: > >>James Moran wrote: >> >> >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor >>> >> >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? >> >>John Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" with the medical equipment. John ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Have you looked on how much they cost. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 13:20, Mark Musone wrote: > Why not vocera? > > http://www.vocera.com > > they seem to have the exact product you are looking for and seem to > primarily server hospitals.. > > -Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:06 PM > To: Asterisk > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > > Hmm I'll look into it. Thanks. > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:54, John Fraizer wrote: > > James Moran wrote: > > > > > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to > have > > > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer > wrote: > > > > > >>James Moran wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > > >>> > > >> > > >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this > application? > > >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? > > >> > > >>John > > > > Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a > > hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not > > certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while > > since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen > > many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" > with > > the medical equipment. > > > > John > > ___ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Why not vocera? http://www.vocera.com they seem to have the exact product you are looking for and seem to primarily server hospitals.. -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:06 PM To: Asterisk Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Hmm I'll look into it. Thanks. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:54, John Fraizer wrote: > James Moran wrote: > > > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have > > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > > > >>James Moran wrote: > >> > >> > >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > >>> > >> > >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? > >> > >>John > > Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a > hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not > certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while > since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen > many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" with > the medical equipment. > > John > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Hmm I'll look into it. Thanks. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:54, John Fraizer wrote: > James Moran wrote: > > > No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have > > a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > > > >>James Moran wrote: > >> > >> > >>>We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > >>> > >> > >>And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > >>Not an RF engineer, are ya? > >> > >>John > > Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a > hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not > certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while > since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen > many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" with > the medical equipment. > > John > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
James Moran wrote: No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: James Moran wrote: We need to have about 30 phones on one floor And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? Not an RF engineer, are ya? John Um, I'm not so sure that you're going to be able to run WiFi at a hospital. The life safety/support equipment is most likely not certified to be resistant to 2.4Ghz interference. It's been a while since I looked up ISM allocations but, I can tell you that I've seen many "good ideas" shot down because of the "potential to interfere" with the medical equipment. John ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
No I'm not but it's a hospital that nurses are on call and need to have a way to contact them. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:52, John Fraizer wrote: > James Moran wrote: > > > We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > > > > And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > Not an RF engineer, are ya? > > John > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
You are assuming that they all have to go to the same Access Point and be on the same channel. For a high density setup you can get APs that allow you to turn down the signal strength so they can be more densly placed. With the Wisip or the Zytel you really need to go with g729 anyway for them to work properly at which point I think the footprint is only about 30kbps. I am not saying this will work, but I think it could be made to work with the correctly designed Wifi network. Point of fact we really don't know much about his setup since he just says "on one floor." The real question here is what is the necessary density per AP? -- Jonathan Moore Director of Technology Winfield Public Schools Office 620.221.5100 Fax 620.221.0508 Quoting Andrew Kohlsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > > > And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > > Not an RF engineer, are ya? > > at ~80kbps per phone and (guessing) 5.5mbps average connect I would be > curious > to see how bad 30 simultaneous conversations would be with a CSMA/CA network > > like 802.11b. :-) > > I think you're right though, I think that that would be a bad thing, overall. > > Where's token ring 802.11 when you need it? :-) > > -A. > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > Visit Winfield Public Schools at http://usd465.com - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
You cant use that many wifi phones on a single floor anyway. Try looking at a dect solution that can operate as a standalone solution to your asterisk. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Friday, 7 May 2004 11:35 PM To: Asterisk Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? We need to have about 30 phones on one floor On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:18, Paul Tyreman wrote: > Why not get a analogue to IP adapter, then use a Digital Cordless phone. > > Much cheeper than the 7920 and works wonders for me. > > I've got a couple of adapters for sale at the moment, e-mail me if your > interested ! > > Paul. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran > Posted At: 07 May 2004 13:59 > Posted To: Asterisk-Users > Conversation: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > > > Are there any other wireless IP phones out there other then the Cisco 7920?? > -- > James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Potential Technologies > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
> i prefer zyxel p200w Looks just like the Pulver OEM'd WiSIP. Regards, Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
> > We need to have about 30 phones on one floor > And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? > Not an RF engineer, are ya? at ~80kbps per phone and (guessing) 5.5mbps average connect I would be curious to see how bad 30 simultaneous conversations would be with a CSMA/CA network like 802.11b. :-) I think you're right though, I think that that would be a bad thing, overall. Where's token ring 802.11 when you need it? :-) -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
i prefer zyxel p200w for a picture see http://www.voipbox.de/images/private/protzundco/equip.jpg at the upper left corner James Moran wrote: Are there any other wireless IP phones out there other then the Cisco 7920?? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
James Moran wrote: We need to have about 30 phones on one floor And you really think that WiFi phones are suited for this application? Not an RF engineer, are ya? John ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
We need to have about 30 phones on one floor On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:18, Paul Tyreman wrote: > Why not get a analogue to IP adapter, then use a Digital Cordless phone. > > Much cheeper than the 7920 and works wonders for me. > > I've got a couple of adapters for sale at the moment, e-mail me if your > interested ! > > Paul. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran > Posted At: 07 May 2004 13:59 > Posted To: Asterisk-Users > Conversation: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > > > Are there any other wireless IP phones out there other then the Cisco 7920?? > -- > James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Potential Technologies > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Hey there, There is ZyXel Prestige 2000W Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11b David - Original Message - From: "James Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:59 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? > Are there any other wireless IP phones out there other then the Cisco > 7920?? > -- > James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Potential Technologies > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Why not get a analogue to IP adapter, then use a Digital Cordless phone. Much cheeper than the 7920 and works wonders for me. I've got a couple of adapters for sale at the moment, e-mail me if your interested ! Paul. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Moran Posted At: 07 May 2004 13:59 Posted To: Asterisk-Users Conversation: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones?? Are there any other wireless IP phones out there other then the Cisco 7920?? -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] WI FI IP phones??
Are there any other wireless IP phones out there other then the Cisco 7920?? -- James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Potential Technologies ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users