[Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Shoval Tomer
Hi.
I've searched the archives and found nothing regarding collaborating
Asterisk with a Panasonic PBX (TD1232 to be exact)

Here's my question:
Can I use a Wildcard X100P to connect an outgoing line jack (on the
Panasonic) to Asterisk, so I can route calls from the PBX to Asterisk,
and calls from Asterisk to the PBX?

On the hardware page for the X100P card is says it's great for handling
incoming calls. It says nothing about making outgoing calls. Is it at
all possible to use that card to make outgoing calls from Asterisk to
the PSTN lines?

Thanks.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Kannaiyan Natesan
>On the hardware page for the X100P card is says it's great for handling
>incoming calls. It says nothing about making outgoing calls. Is it at
>all possible to use that card to make outgoing calls from Asterisk to
>the PSTN lines?

 You can use it to make outgoing calls.


Kannaiyan

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Shoval Tomer
Thanks.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kannaiyan Natesan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> >On the hardware page for the X100P card is says it's great for
handling
> >incoming calls. It says nothing about making outgoing calls. Is it at
> >all possible to use that card to make outgoing calls from Asterisk to
> >the PSTN lines?
> 
>  You can use it to make outgoing calls.
> 
> 
> Kannaiyan
> 
> http://www.goods2world.com - Your VoIP Shop
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:

> Here's my question:
> Can I use a Wildcard X100P to connect an outgoing line jack (on the
> Panasonic) to Asterisk, so I can route calls from the PBX to Asterisk,
> and calls from Asterisk to the PBX?

If you mean connecting the X100P to an analog extension line then that 
will work both for incoming and outgoing. Note that the KX-TD1232 analog 
lines do not provide caller id, at least ours do not. 

Another option could be to connect Asterisk using an internal isdn
extension. We have a few isdn modems hanging off our pbx that way and they
get callerid etc so Asterisk should be able to as well. We interface
Asterisk to our pbx using a pri line instead so I have not tried using a 
bri line myself.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Shoval Tomer
> If you mean connecting the X100P to an analog extension line then that
> will work both for incoming and outgoing. Note that the KX-TD1232
analog
> lines do not provide caller id, at least ours do not.
> 
I can live without callerid for now. All I want to know is will it work.

> Another option could be to connect Asterisk using an internal isdn
> extension. We have a few isdn modems hanging off our pbx that way and
they
> get callerid etc so Asterisk should be able to as well. We interface
> Asterisk to our pbx using a pri line instead so I have not tried using
a
> bri line myself.


Both these options require that I'd put a matching interface in the PBX.
This means purchasing a card for the PBX, for no small fee, and is
undoable as there's no expansion room left in it.

I have a couple of Analog line extensions free, and we thought to use
them so we can make calls to our remote office via VOIP.

Like so:

|--- HQ -| |-- Remote Office -|
Phone Extensions - PBX - Asterisk --- IP Phone

The IP phones will be at the remote office. And users in HQ will just
use the regular extensions, and dial 8 (for instance) as a prefix to get
one of the two lines connected to Asterisk from the PBX.

My question is can I use X100P cards to connect Analog lines from the
PBX to Asterisk, and utilize both calls from HQ to the IP Phones and
calls from the IP Phones to HQ this way.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:

> Both these options require that I'd put a matching interface in the PBX.
> This means purchasing a card for the PBX, for no small fee, and is
> undoable as there's no expansion room left in it.

Are all the isdn bri slots on the mainboard used already? Or can you get 
it with a mainboard without 4 bri ports? That was the only option when we 
purchased ours, but that was 7-8 years ago.

> The IP phones will be at the remote office. And users in HQ will just
> use the regular extensions, and dial 8 (for instance) as a prefix to get
> one of the two lines connected to Asterisk from the PBX.

8 is reserved for trunk-seiziure (followed by the number of the trunk to 
seize) by default on a kx-td1232. 

> My question is can I use X100P cards to connect Analog lines from the
> PBX to Asterisk, and utilize both calls from HQ to the IP Phones and
> calls from the IP Phones to HQ this way.

It ought to work. You will not get DDI support but that is not needed in 
your case I think.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Shoval Tomer
> Are all the isdn bri slots on the mainboard used already? Or can you
get
> it with a mainboard without 4 bri ports? That was the only option when
we
> purchased ours, but that was 7-8 years ago.

We had a BRI Interface in the past, but we replace it with a 16 FXS
board. Now the PBX is maxed out (8 lines, 48 FXS ports, plus 8 or 16
"SMART" FXS ports)
> 
> > The IP phones will be at the remote office. And users in HQ will
just
> > use the regular extensions, and dial 8 (for instance) as a prefix to
get
> > one of the two lines connected to Asterisk from the PBX.
> 
> 8 is reserved for trunk-seiziure (followed by the number of the trunk
to
> seize) by default on a kx-td1232.

We have 12 trunk-seizures - if you're referring to CO lines.

> > My question is can I use X100P cards to connect Analog lines from
the
> > PBX to Asterisk, and utilize both calls from HQ to the IP Phones and
> > calls from the IP Phones to HQ this way.
> 
> It ought to work. You will not get DDI support but that is not needed
in
> your case I think.

If DDI stands for Direct Dial In, then you're right, and I don't need
them.

Thanks for you help.
Shoval

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Hermann Wecke
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:
> Can I use a Wildcard X100P to connect an outgoing line jack (on the
> Panasonic) to Asterisk, so I can route calls from the PBX to Asterisk,
> and calls from Asterisk to the PBX?

I have an * under a Panasonic KX-TD816, as an extension for Panasonic,
handling both incoming and outgoing calls. Caller-id is lost, as X100P is
not a digital panasonic phone.

I'm now moving to a different layout: asterisk is the PBX, routing calls
to the Panasonic using a Cisco ATA 188 box.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Fran Boon
Peter Svensson wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:
Can I use a Wildcard X100P to connect an outgoing line jack (on the
Panasonic) to Asterisk, so I can route calls from the PBX to Asterisk,
and calls from Asterisk to the PBX?
If you mean connecting the X100P to an analog extension line then that 
will work both for incoming and outgoing. Note that the KX-TD1232 analog 
lines do not provide caller id, at least ours do not. 
That's a shame- what protocol do they use? DTMF?
http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bounty+non-Bellcore-CLID
Another option could be to connect Asterisk using an internal isdn
extension. We have a few isdn modems hanging off our pbx that way and they
get callerid etc so Asterisk should be able to as well. We interface
Asterisk to our pbx using a pri line instead so I have not tried using a 
bri line myself.
Do you use the TD-1232's 'T1' interface, then?
- with what PRI card? Digium or Cisco or what?
- does it support Q.931?
Their webpage is vague as to exactly what they mean by 'T1'
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=F&storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&itemId=62983&catGroupId=2&modelNo=KX-TD1232&surfModel=KX-TD1232&ignoreRedirect=1
Thanks for any extra information - I need to interface * with one of 
these in 2 locations.

F
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Joseph
We also are working to interface a Panasonic pbx with a pri.
Calls from * to Panasonic via pri suport caller id and DID.
However, I have not found a way to forward calls out the pri without 
manually dialing the trunk group for the pri and then the extension number.
I have overlap dialing enabled in the panasonic.

Any tips to make say a specific extension able to forward to the pri 
with destination digits getting sent?

Peter Svensson wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:

Here's my question:
Can I use a Wildcard X100P to connect an outgoing line jack (on the
Panasonic) to Asterisk, so I can route calls from the PBX to Asterisk,
and calls from Asterisk to the PBX?

If you mean connecting the X100P to an analog extension line then that 
will work both for incoming and outgoing. Note that the KX-TD1232 analog 
lines do not provide caller id, at least ours do not. 

Another option could be to connect Asterisk using an internal isdn
extension. We have a few isdn modems hanging off our pbx that way and they
get callerid etc so Asterisk should be able to as well. We interface
Asterisk to our pbx using a pri line instead so I have not tried using a 
bri line myself.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Fran Boon wrote:

> Peter Svensson wrote:
> > will work both for incoming and outgoing. Note that the KX-TD1232 analog 
> > lines do not provide caller id, at least ours do not. 
> 
> That's a shame- what protocol do they use? DTMF?
> http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bounty+non-Bellcore-CLID

Analog extensions is what I ment. Sorry for the confusion. There is no 
callerid at all on the analog estensions, only on the digital (system 
phones) extensions and the internal isdn busses.

There is an add-on card (KX-TD193) that provieds caller id for 4 
extensions. 

> > Another option could be to connect Asterisk using an internal isdn
> > extension. We have a few isdn modems hanging off our pbx that way and they
> > get callerid etc so Asterisk should be able to as well. We interface
> > Asterisk to our pbx using a pri line instead so I have not tried using a 
> > bri line myself.
> 
> Do you use the TD-1232's 'T1' interface, then?
> - with what PRI card? Digium or Cisco or what?
> - does it support Q.931?

No, their E1 PRI card. I think they are not the same. There was a 1 digit 
difference in the model number. We connect it to a TE405P which is also 
connected to the pstn. All isdn lines use EuroISDN (q.931 with etsi 
modifications).

> Their webpage is vague as to exactly what they mean by 'T1'
> http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=F&storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&itemId=62983&catGroupId=2&modelNo=KX-TD1232&surfModel=KX-TD1232&ignoreRedirect=1

They have a lot of different interface cards for the kx-td1232. 
  KX-TD290 is a E1 PRI card ccording to our documentation. 
   However, from reading on the web it may also be a T1 PRI
   This is strange, you should contact your sales representative
   lest you end up with a doorstop. 
  KX-TD187 T1 without isdn 

> Thanks for any extra information - I need to interface * with one of 
> these in 2 locations.

You can contact me privatly if you want more information.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] collaboration with Panasonic PBX

2004-06-14 Thread Shoval Tomer
> 
> That's a shame- what protocol do they use? DTMF?
> http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bounty+non-Bellcore-CLID

[Shoval Tomer] Analog lines can provide CallerID for a fee, but the
Analog lines card on the PBX doesn't handle it, nor does any non VOIP
PBX hardware that's sold here. Caller ID with PBXs is available only for
Digital lines.
 
> Do you use the TD-1232's 'T1' interface, then?
> - with what PRI card? Digium or Cisco or what?
> - does it support Q.931?
Sorry, Even though the PBX is a digital one, we don't use any digital
lines, and only a couple digital extensions. 

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