[Asterisk-Users] x100p CLI in the UK

2004-03-16 Thread Patrick Lidstone (Personal E-mail)
 First, is the lack of UK CLI on the x100P hardware or 
 software related?

Don't know. AIUI the primary difference between BT and Bell caller
id standards is that BT requires:

- Hardware to detect line reversal prior to first ring indicating
imminent arrival of the CID data
- And then to detect FFSK CID data burst in the on-hook state prior to
first ring

In contrast to the Bell standard which sends FFSK burst between first
and second ring in the on-hook state.
 
 Secondly, My US Robotics Voice modem does get UK CLI, so 
 could I get UK 
 CLI and the same functionality as the x100p using a USR Modem with *?

 Has anyone done this?

Not quite this way, but yes. I use a Pegasus Meteor to achieve
the same end result. See
www.crucible-technologies.co.uk/caller-display.asp
Although it is expensive, it is completely reliable - anecdotal evidence
suggests that USR modems don't perform consistently with BT CID. If you
are
handy with a soldering iron, you could also consider modifying caller
display units
 - they can be had for less than a fiver at The Link or similar, and
just require
the addition of a serial driver chip to interface them to a PC. 
The serial data output from these units is virtually
identical to the meteor and is well documented (since it's specified
and documented as part of the BT standard).

 
 As an aside, has anyone experienced or solved the problem 
 with the x100p 
 producing a loop condition on the PSTN line (it really mucks 
 up my ADSL 
 connection something horrid when it is connected).
 I think it is due to an impedance mismatch between the card and the 
 network, but have no way of testing these things. (Dont know 
 enough to 
 just get out my meter and start probing without risk of 
 killing my x100p 
 or the POTS Line)
 I know the Loop condition is there as a kindly BT eng was 
 monitoring the 
 line and asking me to plug things in, when the x100p was 
 plugged in he 
 said something along the lines of: theres your problem, what did you 
 just plug in? It is creating a 36 K Ohm Loop condition

I have an X100P on an ADSL enabled line and it works fine, with no
noticeable signal loss reported on the router - but my line is close 
to the exchange in an urban environment.

Patrick


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] x100p CLI in the UK

2004-03-16 Thread Jon Lawrence
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 08:42, Patrick Lidstone (Personal E-mail) wrote:
 Not quite this way, but yes. I use a Pegasus Meteor to achieve
 the same end result. See
 www.crucible-technologies.co.uk/caller-display.asp
 Although it is expensive, it is completely reliable - anecdotal evidence
 suggests that USR modems don't perform consistently with BT CID. If you
 are
 handy with a soldering iron, you could also consider modifying caller
 display units
  - they can be had for less than a fiver at The Link or similar, and
 just require
 the addition of a serial driver chip to interface them to a PC.
 The serial data output from these units is virtually
 identical to the meteor and is well documented (since it's specified
 and documented as part of the BT standard).

Have you interfaced this with *. If so how ?
Also, have you any more details on altering the caller display units ? urls 
would be great.

TIA
Jon

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[Asterisk-Users] x100p CLI in the UK

2004-03-15 Thread Chris Lee
First, is the lack of UK CLI on the x100P hardware or software related?

Secondly, My US Robotics Voice modem does get UK CLI, so could I get UK 
CLI and the same functionality as the x100p using a USR Modem with *?

Has anyone done this?

As an aside, has anyone experienced or solved the problem with the x100p 
producing a loop condition on the PSTN line (it really mucks up my ADSL 
connection something horrid when it is connected).
I think it is due to an impedance mismatch between the card and the 
network, but have no way of testing these things. (Dont know enough to 
just get out my meter and start probing without risk of killing my x100p 
or the POTS Line)
I know the Loop condition is there as a kindly BT eng was monitoring the 
line and asking me to plug things in, when the x100p was plugged in he 
said something along the lines of: theres your problem, what did you 
just plug in? It is creating a 36 K Ohm Loop condition

Now the router is not the most stable at the best of times but plug in 
the x100p and the line bounces up and down like there is no tomorrow.

Regards

Chris.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] x100p CLI in the UK

2004-03-15 Thread Eric Wieling
On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 18:25, Chris Lee wrote:
 First, is the lack of UK CLI on the x100P hardware or software related?

Check the extensive discussions in the mailing list archives.

 Secondly, My US Robotics Voice modem does get UK CLI, so could I get UK 
 CLI and the same functionality as the x100p using a USR Modem with *?

Also see the description of someone doing this in the mailing list
arcgives.

 As an aside, has anyone experienced or solved the problem with the x100p 
 producing a loop condition on the PSTN line (it really mucks up my ADSL 
 connection something horrid when it is connected).

Also see the mailing list archives for discussion about loop current.

Do you see a pattern here?  The archives are you friend.  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] x100p CLI in the UK

2004-03-15 Thread David J Carter
Chris,

May be a bad card, or more likely Microfilter, I have had mine on the same
line as the ADSL for 3 months now and no problems.

As for UK CLI I will be glad when I can get CLI from either BT or Telewest.

Regards


Dave

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First, is the lack of UK CLI on the x100P hardware or software related?

Secondly, My US Robotics Voice modem does get UK CLI, so could I get UK
CLI and the same functionality as the x100p using a USR Modem with *?

Has anyone done this?

As an aside, has anyone experienced or solved the problem with the x100p
producing a loop condition on the PSTN line (it really mucks up my ADSL
connection something horrid when it is connected).
I think it is due to an impedance mismatch between the card and the
network, but have no way of testing these things. (Dont know enough to
just get out my meter and start probing without risk of killing my x100p
or the POTS Line)
I know the Loop condition is there as a kindly BT eng was monitoring the
line and asking me to plug things in, when the x100p was plugged in he
said something along the lines of: theres your problem, what did you
just plug in? It is creating a 36 K Ohm Loop condition

Now the router is not the most stable at the best of times but plug in
the x100p and the line bounces up and down like there is no tomorrow.

Regards

Chris.
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