Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,

Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,

That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?

Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?

If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?

Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.

I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
can not deal with lies.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

This is *really* not the place for this...

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,

 Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,

 That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
 to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?

 Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
 customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
 plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
 can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
 Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
 of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
 I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
 your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?

 If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
 because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
 done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
 is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?

 Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
 28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
 again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.

 I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
 fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
 yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
 hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
 how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
 around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
 an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
 because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
 told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
 problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
 I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
 multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
 can not deal with lies.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread Steve Totaro
Move it to the biz list and I am cool with it.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote:

 This is *really* not the place for this...

 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,

 Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,

 That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
 to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?

 Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
 customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
 plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
 can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
 Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
 of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
 I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
 your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?

 If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
 because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
 done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
 is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?

 Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
 28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
 again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.

 I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
 fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
 yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
 hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
 how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
 around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
 an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
 because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
 told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
 problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
 I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
 multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
 can not deal with lies.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread Alex Balashov
Au contraire.

Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 This is *really* not the place for this...
 
 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,
 Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,
 That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
 to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?
 Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
 customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
 plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
 can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
 Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
 of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
 I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
 your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?
 If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
 because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
 done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
 is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?
 Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
 28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
 again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.
 I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
 fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
 yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
 hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
 how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
 around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
 an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
 because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
 told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
 problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
 I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
 multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
 can not deal with lies.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

No, I really mean it.  This list is busy enough with on-topic 
conversations.  If I wanted to hear rants about service providers I would 
subscribe to *-biz.  Good lord the net is *full* of crappy service 
providers and frauds.  The last thing we need is for members to believe it 
is their duty to inform this list of bad service.

j

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:

 Au contraire.

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 This is *really* not the place for this...

 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,
 Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,
 That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
 to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?
 Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
 customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
 plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
 can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
 Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
 of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
 I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
 your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?
 If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
 because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
 done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
 is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?
 Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
 28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
 again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.
 I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
 fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
 yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
 hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
 how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
 around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
 an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
 because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
 told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
 problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
 I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
 multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
 can not deal with lies.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread Alex Balashov
True, better to keep it on the -biz list.

But there is such a thing as exceptional fraud.

I wouldn't have minded if someone posted about Bernie Madoff to 
capital-users.

Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 No, I really mean it.  This list is busy enough with on-topic 
 conversations.  If I wanted to hear rants about service providers I would 
 subscribe to *-biz.  Good lord the net is *full* of crappy service 
 providers and frauds.  The last thing we need is for members to believe it 
 is their duty to inform this list of bad service.
 
 j
 
 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
 
 Au contraire.

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 This is *really* not the place for this...

 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,
 Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,
 That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
 to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?
 Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
 customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
 plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
 can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
 Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
 of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
 I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
 your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?
 If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
 because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
 done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
 is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?
 Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
 28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
 again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.
 I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
 fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
 yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
 hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
 how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
 around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
 an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
 because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
 told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
 problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
 I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
 multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
 can not deal with lies.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (Fwd) New problem: They disconnect your service for no reason

2009-01-22 Thread C F
While I agree its better on the biz list, we do need some humor at the
end of business day.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Balashov
abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote:
 True, better to keep it on the -biz list.

 But there is such a thing as exceptional fraud.

 I wouldn't have minded if someone posted about Bernie Madoff to
 capital-users.

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 No, I really mean it.  This list is busy enough with on-topic
 conversations.  If I wanted to hear rants about service providers I would
 subscribe to *-biz.  Good lord the net is *full* of crappy service
 providers and frauds.  The last thing we need is for members to believe it
 is their duty to inform this list of bad service.

 j

 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:

 Au contraire.

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 This is *really* not the place for this...

 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:34, Rehan Allah Wala re...@supertec.com 
 wrote:
 Your service is still up and working,
 Because Suzanne Bowen has better judgment than you.


 You did charge back on the payment to us,
 That is correct. There is $86 balance in my account I did not expect
 to get back by just asking for it.


 We are being nice to you and you do not understand the meaning of nice?
 Your actions are not nice. You threaten to cut off service if a
 customer discusses issues... issues which you were actually given
 plenty of time to solve... in public. Like I said in my other post,
 can you imagine Level3, Global Crossing, ATT or Verizon doing that?
 Why don't you spend time correcting the flaws in your service, instead
 of policing the internet for people talking bad about your service?
 I am not even making this up, I posting FACTS, not lies like you and
 your employees posted in my tickets.

 What is wrong with you ?
 If you didn't know, I have too much free time. You don't mess with me
 because I have plenty of time to mess back with you. I will not be
 done until every person that uses VoIP knows how terrible your service
 is.


 Do you want me to really close it up ?
 Yes, as we discussed with Suzanne, the service will be closed up on
 28th February, 2009 at 5:00 CT. Or are you going to change your mind
 again?

 FYI I do not have a problem in you complaining to me, you can complain a 
 million time, and
 you will get result, it is your public posting about the problem and 
 discussing with people who
 do not undertand the issue is the reason we can not do business with you.
 I did not get results waiting almost a month for the feature to get
 fixed.  The provider I use now we had an issue. I reported it
 yesterday, within 5 minutes they confirmed there is an issue. Within 1
 hour they had resolved the issue with their upstream provider. THAT is
 how you provide good service. There is an issue, I am not going to go
 around talking bad about you. But there is an issue, you deny there is
 an issue, and you take a month.. then I will talk bad about you
 because you do not care about the customer. Sorry, it's true. If you
 told me that you found a programming issue (which is what I think the
 problem is) and that you programmers will fix it in the next release,
 I can understand that answer and have patience. But to be told
 multiple times that everything is working when that is not true, I
 can not deal with lies.

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