Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
Gordon Henderson wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Alan Lord wrote: snip / I used to have an ISDN-2 line into my home office. BT wrote to me about 2 years ago and said they were discontinuing the service. They converted my dual channel BRI back into a single POTS. Sure it was ISDN2e and not Home or Business Highway? They killed off an the HH and BG lines some time back and converted them back to POTS. I've no idea why - I'd cancelled my HH line some time before the cut-off date. Yes, I think it was called Home Highway (but it *is* just a BRI at the end of the day). It had a USB port on the NTE which I never really grokked. Not being a Windows user and all. I built a little Asterisk server, stuck an X100p in it for backup calls should my broadband go down (on a separate POTS line) and got two non-geo 0844 IAX trunks for free instead. Who lost out there then? Well, quite. BT have their good points, but also their stupidly bad points too. They phone me up once a month at present and ask me why I'm not placing any outgoing calls with them. When I try to tell them why, (because I run my own phone company!) because my reply is not in the script, they just hang up on me. LOL - That's a good one. Alan ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Alan Lord wrote: Gordon Henderson wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Alan Lord wrote: snip / I used to have an ISDN-2 line into my home office. BT wrote to me about 2 years ago and said they were discontinuing the service. They converted my dual channel BRI back into a single POTS. Sure it was ISDN2e and not Home or Business Highway? They killed off an the HH and BG lines some time back and converted them back to POTS. I've no idea why - I'd cancelled my HH line some time before the cut-off date. Yes, I think it was called Home Highway (but it *is* just a BRI at the end of the day). It had a USB port on the NTE which I never really grokked. Not being a Windows user and all. Yup. Home Highway. It was good at the time - I had it, so I could have what was effectively a 64K leased line Internet connection and still make calls. ADSL Broadband more or less killed it. You didn't quite get all the features of ISDN2e that I recall, however I don't ever recall ever wanting to use those features... And it was home powered rather than line powered, but that's progress for you... I built a little Asterisk server, stuck an X100p in it for backup calls should my broadband go down (on a separate POTS line) and got two non-geo 0844 IAX trunks for free instead. Who lost out there then? Well, quite. BT have their good points, but also their stupidly bad points too. They phone me up once a month at present and ask me why I'm not placing any outgoing calls with them. When I try to tell them why, (because I run my own phone company!) because my reply is not in the script, they just hang up on me. LOL - That's a good one. I know - they always tell me that the call may be being recorded too. I put them out of their misery by teling the call definately is being recorded - by me :) BT - Great bits of technology, forward thinking network features, etc. (Eg. TXT to speech as mentioned in another thread here), however they're driven by corp-rat decision makers being poked by greedy share-holders )-: Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
On 24 Oct 2008, at 17:00, Phil Knighton wrote: Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) What hardware would you recommend in the Asterisk box? I don't mind admitting I'm a newb and a lot of the info I've found is over my head. I've been looking at a TE410P - would this achieve what I want which is to connect the 3 ISDN2 connections, giving me six voice channels? Assuming the TE410P is what I'm looking for (or an equivalent - suggestions?) what are the basic points for what I would need to change in my current config? Any help or suggestions would be gratefully appreciated :-) Cheers Phil Couple of things to look out for : 1) FAX! If you currently have a fax on any of the 4 analog lines, then moving to ISDN will require you to do a major dance to get it working with any degree of reliability. (same goes for dialup modems, creditcard processing machines, alarm systems, sky boxes etc) 2) There really isn't any competition in the ISDN BRI market in the UK - once down that road you are tied to BT. If you do want to go to ISDN, think seriously of getting a PRI (30 channels) with only a few channels 'lit'. The normal minimum is 8 out of the 30, but I once persuaded NTL (as was) to put up a 6 line PRI. All the telcos have PRI offerings, and the cards for asterisk are cheaper than the equivalent BRI card. In your situation I'd be taking 2 analog lines and an ADSL, use the ADSL to make voip calls through a good VoIP provider and the 2 analog lines for emergencies, faxes and failover. Tim.___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) What hardware would you recommend in the Asterisk box? I don't mind admitting I'm a newb and a lot of the info I've found is over my head. I've been looking at a TE410P - would this achieve what I want which is to connect the 3 ISDN2 connections, giving me six voice channels? Assuming the TE410P is what I'm looking for (or an equivalent - suggestions?) what are the basic points for what I would need to change in my current config? Any help or suggestions would be gratefully appreciated :-) Cheers Phil ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
Phil Knighton wrote: Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) What hardware would you recommend in the Asterisk box? I don't mind admitting I'm a newb and a lot of the info I've found is over my head. I've been looking at a TE410P - would this achieve what I want which is to connect the 3 ISDN2 connections, giving me six voice channels? Assuming the TE410P is what I'm looking for (or an equivalent - suggestions?) what are the basic points for what I would need to change in my current config? I recommend the Sangoma A500 with Echo Cancel. The TE410P is not what your are looking for since its for PRI service. What BT is offering you is BRI service. The Sangoma Wiki will tell you what configs need to me made. http://wiki.sangoma.com/sangoma-wanpipe-smg-asterisk-bri-installation Andres http://www.neuroredes.com Any help or suggestions would be gratefully appreciated :-) Cheers Phil ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Phil Knighton wrote: Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) BT are sounding desperate! (And why go from 4 channels to 6?) Also watch out what they tie you in for - I suspect they'll offer the free installation if you sign up for a 5-year contract. One of my clients was offered that recently... What hardware would you recommend in the Asterisk box? I don't mind admitting I'm a newb and a lot of the info I've found is over my head. I've been looking at a TE410P - would this achieve what I want which is to connect the 3 ISDN2 connections, giving me six voice channels? Same hardware you currently have, but with an ISDN2 card rather than TDM400. I use the mISDN drivers, and for the most-part they seem OK. Last one I bought was an openVox B200P from Voipon.co.uk. You'd need the B400P for 6 channels (3 ports) Assuming the TE410P is what I'm looking for (or an equivalent - suggestions?) what are the basic points for what I would need to change in my current config? Compile/install/load the mISDN drivers and then add in the configs. It's a bit fiddly, but seems to work OK. I did have some compile issues with the latest mISDN drivers though. Or port it into VoIP and wave at BT ... Gordon -- www.drogon.net ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
Andres wrote: Phil Knighton wrote: Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) What hardware would you recommend in the Asterisk box? I don't mind admitting I'm a newb and a lot of the info I've found is over my head. I've been looking at a TE410P - would this achieve what I want which is to connect the 3 ISDN2 connections, giving me six voice channels? Assuming the TE410P is what I'm looking for (or an equivalent - suggestions?) what are the basic points for what I would need to change in my current config? I recommend the Sangoma A500 with Echo Cancel. The TE410P is not what your are looking for since its for PRI service. What BT is offering you is BRI service. The Sangoma Wiki will tell you what configs need to me made. http://wiki.sangoma.com/sangoma-wanpipe-smg-asterisk-bri-installation He probably got confused with the B410P which is BRI, as far as working well on BT I can't say but I've used it with France Telecom with no problems. DC ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
Phil Knighton wrote: Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) Wow, you are lucky. I used to have an ISDN-2 line into my home office. BT wrote to me about 2 years ago and said they were discontinuing the service. They converted my dual channel BRI back into a single POTS. I built a little Asterisk server, stuck an X100p in it for backup calls should my broadband go down (on a separate POTS line) and got two non-geo 0844 IAX trunks for free instead. Who lost out there then? Cheers Alan ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Advice on ISDN and Asterisk in the UK
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Alan Lord wrote: Phil Knighton wrote: Hello all What I'm looking for is some plain speaking advice on ISDN. Currently using 4 analog lines connecting via a four port TDM400P FXO card. We need to physically move our installations, and on requesting the analog lines be moved - our telco (BT) is suggesting we replace our analog lines with ISDN2. We would have 3 x ISDN2 connections, giving us six voice channels. They've even offered us free installation of the lines (as opposed to a £560 charge for moving the analog lines!) Wow, you are lucky. I used to have an ISDN-2 line into my home office. BT wrote to me about 2 years ago and said they were discontinuing the service. They converted my dual channel BRI back into a single POTS. Sure it was ISDN2e and not Home or Business Highway? They killed off an the HH and BG lines some time back and converted them back to POTS. I've no idea why - I'd cancelled my HH line some time before the cut-off date. I built a little Asterisk server, stuck an X100p in it for backup calls should my broadband go down (on a separate POTS line) and got two non-geo 0844 IAX trunks for free instead. Who lost out there then? Well, quite. BT have their good points, but also their stupidly bad points too. They phone me up once a month at present and ask me why I'm not placing any outgoing calls with them. When I try to tell them why, (because I run my own phone company!) because my reply is not in the script, they just hang up on me. Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
