Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as a Condo door opener/intercom

2011-04-13 Thread Kyle Kienapfel
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Andreas Sikkema  wrote:
> On 4/12/11 1:21 AM, Don Kelly wrote:
>> Continuing top posting...
>>
>> The same argument could be made for any commercial solution. Why use
>> Asterisk when we could throw $4,000 at our problem for a commercial
>> solution?
>>
>> I'd like to have a solution that would have the features you suggest for
>> $400.
>
> What part of the system isn't working? The "route calls to the
> appartment" part? That could be replaced by Asterisk with enough
> (analogue?) ports to serve the front door and appartments using existing
> wiring.
>
> If the door part also needs replacing because it is proprietary to the
> old system, you could use a SIP dooropener/intercom, but these are
> generally expensive, starting around EUR800/$800? or so and probably
> need an expension for apartment buttons. And you'd need to run new
> wiring to the door and perhaps change the lock.
>
> And then there's the apartments, it could get *very* expensive when you
> need to replace wiring and the "phones" in each apartment to something
> VoIP like.
>
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My apartment building switched from something that tapped into phone
lines to having the panel outside take a 3 digit extension, and then
it does a phone call. Needs a bit of administation to associate the
extensions to the right number to call, but then the call can go to a
cellphone or a voip provider... I like being able to buzz myself in
with my laptop :)

Outdoor intercom SIP phone + server + door striker and hopefully less
than $2000 in time to tie it all together.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as a Condo door opener/intercom

2011-04-13 Thread Andreas Sikkema
On 4/12/11 1:21 AM, Don Kelly wrote:
> Continuing top posting...
> 
> The same argument could be made for any commercial solution. Why use
> Asterisk when we could throw $4,000 at our problem for a commercial
> solution?
> 
> I'd like to have a solution that would have the features you suggest for
> $400.

What part of the system isn't working? The "route calls to the
appartment" part? That could be replaced by Asterisk with enough
(analogue?) ports to serve the front door and appartments using existing
wiring.

If the door part also needs replacing because it is proprietary to the
old system, you could use a SIP dooropener/intercom, but these are
generally expensive, starting around EUR800/$800? or so and probably
need an expension for apartment buttons. And you'd need to run new
wiring to the door and perhaps change the lock.

And then there's the apartments, it could get *very* expensive when you
need to replace wiring and the "phones" in each apartment to something
VoIP like.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as a Condo door opener/intercom

2011-04-12 Thread C F
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Don Kelly  wrote:
> Continuing top posting...
>
> The same argument could be made for any commercial solution. Why use
> Asterisk when we could throw $4,000 at our problem for a commercial
> solution?

Really

>
> I'd like to have a solution that would have the features you suggest for
> $400.

Doesnt exist on planet earth not even with Asterisk. The closest
you'll get to your mentioned price is a commercial solution.

>
> --Don
>
>
> On Behalf Of C F
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 11:43 AM
>
> Search the lists. Some hints:
> Viking electronics makes a door box that connects to any analog line
> (IIRC e-20).
> They also make a DTMF keypad that integrates in series with any analog
> line. They might also make a door box with a DTMF keypad on it.
> Sandman makes a relay that will get energized when there is a ring on
> the line which could be used to unlock the door.
>
> However, why would you use asterisk? Using asterisk for the sole
> purpose of MDU entry system is like using windows for asterisk, it
> works but why?
> Go for the commercial solutions, it comes with a geziilion options for
> your setup one of them the ability of chosing an apartment, another
> add key fobs, another one is the ability of using a code for the
> residence (not guests) to unlock the door. Also the interface with
> asterisk you will have to build one from scratch. The commercial
> solutions have em built in.
>
> On 4/10/11, Bruce B  wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Looking to replace a condo intercom system. Apparently the current one
> taps
>> into the lines and dials phone numbers but needs to be changed as it's
>> faulty.
>>
>> I will probably still use the same analogue dialing and back it up with a
>> VoIP line and use the current cabling that is in place. But as for as the
>> door opening function goes, I am not sure how to interface and how open
>> these modules are usually built.
>>
>> I would appreciate it if someone with experience can throw in some
> pointers
>> as to what I might be facing and what challenges I have to solve to
> replace
>> this with a nice Asterisk system.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as a Condo door opener/intercom

2011-04-11 Thread Don Kelly
Continuing top posting...

The same argument could be made for any commercial solution. Why use
Asterisk when we could throw $4,000 at our problem for a commercial
solution?

I'd like to have a solution that would have the features you suggest for
$400.

--Don


On Behalf Of C F
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 11:43 AM

Search the lists. Some hints:
Viking electronics makes a door box that connects to any analog line
(IIRC e-20).
They also make a DTMF keypad that integrates in series with any analog
line. They might also make a door box with a DTMF keypad on it.
Sandman makes a relay that will get energized when there is a ring on
the line which could be used to unlock the door.

However, why would you use asterisk? Using asterisk for the sole
purpose of MDU entry system is like using windows for asterisk, it
works but why?
Go for the commercial solutions, it comes with a geziilion options for
your setup one of them the ability of chosing an apartment, another
add key fobs, another one is the ability of using a code for the
residence (not guests) to unlock the door. Also the interface with
asterisk you will have to build one from scratch. The commercial
solutions have em built in.

On 4/10/11, Bruce B  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Looking to replace a condo intercom system. Apparently the current one
taps
> into the lines and dials phone numbers but needs to be changed as it's
> faulty.
>
> I will probably still use the same analogue dialing and back it up with a
> VoIP line and use the current cabling that is in place. But as for as the
> door opening function goes, I am not sure how to interface and how open
> these modules are usually built.
>
> I would appreciate it if someone with experience can throw in some
pointers
> as to what I might be facing and what challenges I have to solve to
replace
> this with a nice Asterisk system.
>
> Thanks,
>

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as a Condo door opener/intercom

2011-04-11 Thread C F
Search the lists. Some hints:
Viking electronics makes a door box that connects to any analog line
(IIRC e-20).
They also make a DTMF keypad that integrates in series with any analog
line. They might also make a door box with a DTMF keypad on it.
Sandman makes a relay that will get energized when there is a ring on
the line which could be used to unlock the door.

However, why would you use asterisk? Using asterisk for the sole
purpose of MDU entry system is like using windows for asterisk, it
works but why?
Go for the commercial solutions, it comes with a geziilion options for
your setup one of them the ability of chosing an apartment, another
add key fobs, another one is the ability of using a code for the
residence (not guests) to unlock the door. Also the interface with
asterisk you will have to build one from scratch. The commercial
solutions have em built in.

On 4/10/11, Bruce B  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Looking to replace a condo intercom system. Apparently the current one taps
> into the lines and dials phone numbers but needs to be changed as it's
> faulty.
>
> I will probably still use the same analogue dialing and back it up with a
> VoIP line and use the current cabling that is in place. But as for as the
> door opening function goes, I am not sure how to interface and how open
> these modules are usually built.
>
> I would appreciate it if someone with experience can throw in some pointers
> as to what I might be facing and what challenges I have to solve to replace
> this with a nice Asterisk system.
>
> Thanks,
>

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[asterisk-users] Asterisk as a Condo door opener/intercom

2011-04-10 Thread Bruce B
Hi Everyone,

Looking to replace a condo intercom system. Apparently the current one taps
into the lines and dials phone numbers but needs to be changed as it's
faulty.

I will probably still use the same analogue dialing and back it up with a
VoIP line and use the current cabling that is in place. But as for as the
door opening function goes, I am not sure how to interface and how open
these modules are usually built.

I would appreciate it if someone with experience can throw in some pointers
as to what I might be facing and what challenges I have to solve to replace
this with a nice Asterisk system.

Thanks,
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