Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-16 Thread Eric Chamberlain 

On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, John Todd wrote:

>
> I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on
> the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations
> I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's
> system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations -
> but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom
> onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in
> there.
>
>   http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
>
> The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a
> standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when
> compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not
> including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only
> $38.56 more.  Very interesting.
>

The big advantage I like, is the ability to have identical production  
and development environments, without having to continuously run the  
development environment.

When writing up how to install DAHDI on an Asterisk EC2 instance, I  
went through several instances, I could bring up an instance in  
minutes, use it for 10 or 15 minutes and then throw it away.

I could do something similar with VMware ESX attached to a SAN, but it  
is much more capital intensive, even with leasing.

For a single box, EC2 probably isn't going to be cheaper.  But if you  
have a dynamic environment; need web, asterisk, and database servers;  
scaleable storage; and off-site backup, EC2 starts getting more cost  
effective.

Storing Asterisk realtime data in Amazon's SimpleDB and voicemail in  
S3, would make for a very interesting and scalable solution.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-16 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy 
2009/2/16 SIP 

> Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen  > >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on
> > > the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations
> > > I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's
> > > system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these
> > calculations -
> > > but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others
> > may glom
> > > onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in
> > > there.
> > >
> > >http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
> > >
> > > The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in
> a
> > > standard office environment would cost about $75 per month,
> > which when
> > > compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost,
> not
> > > including admin time and not discounting out-of-office
> > bandwidth) only
> > > $38.56 more.  Very interesting.
> >
> > For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host
> > which
> > will probably do as well.
> >
> > --
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> > icq#16849755  
> > jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
> > 
> >  >
> > +972-50-7952406   mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
> > 
> > http://www.xorcom.com  iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
> > 
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> > And in France it is possible to have a dedicated server with 100 mbit
> > /160 gb hdd 1.6 Ghz for 19€ and unlimited bandwith, and it is real
> > unlimited.
> >
> Seriously? Where?  Sign me up!
>
> N.
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It is not a biz list but i am not owning the company, it is ovh.com click to
"kimsufi"or go directly to http://www.kimsufi.com/ oh it is 19.99 but not a
160 gb but a 250 gb and still unlimited.
have fun.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-16 Thread SIP 
Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
>
>
> 2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen  >
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
> >
> > I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on
> > the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations
> > I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's
> > system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these
> calculations -
> > but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others
> may glom
> > onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in
> > there.
> >
> >http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
> >
> > The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a
> > standard office environment would cost about $75 per month,
> which when
> > compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not
> > including admin time and not discounting out-of-office
> bandwidth) only
> > $38.56 more.  Very interesting.
>
> For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host
> which
> will probably do as well.
>
> --
>   Tzafrir Cohen
> icq#16849755  jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
> 
> +972-50-7952406   mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
> 
> http://www.xorcom.com  iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
> 
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> And in France it is possible to have a dedicated server with 100 mbit
> /160 gb hdd 1.6 Ghz for 19€ and unlimited bandwith, and it is real
> unlimited.
>
Seriously? Where?  Sign me up!

N.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-16 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy 
2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen 

> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
> >
> > I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on
> > the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations
> > I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's
> > system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations -
> > but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom
> > onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in
> > there.
> >
> >http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
> >
> > The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a
> > standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when
> > compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not
> > including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only
> > $38.56 more.  Very interesting.
>
> For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which
> will probably do as well.
>
> --
>   Tzafrir Cohen
> icq#16849755  
> jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
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> http://www.xorcom.com  iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
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And in France it is possible to have a dedicated server with 100 mbit /160
gb hdd 1.6 Ghz for 19€ and unlimited bandwith, and it is real unlimited.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - priceassumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-15 Thread Tom Moore 
You'll need to use sip or some other network based protocol to provide
access to the pstn.
These boxes are virtual machines and you don't have any kind of access to
the physical hardware on the machine itself.
 
tom
 

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How do provide PSTN access to such hosted boxes ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-15 Thread Olivier 
How do provide PSTN access to such hosted boxes ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen 
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:35:53AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
> 
> On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
> >>
> >> I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on
> >> the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations
> >> I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's
> >> system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these  
> >> calculations -
> >> but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may  
> >> glom
> >> onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in
> >> there.
> >>
> >>   http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
> >>
> >> The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a
> >> standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which  
> >> when
> >> compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not
> >> including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth)  
> >> only
> >> $38.56 more.  Very interesting.
> >
> > For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host  
> > which
> > will probably do as well.
> 
> 
> For the average Xen VM host, what's the price for bandwidth, assuming  
> G.711 channels at the rates I quoted?  

I recently got myself a really cheap Xen hosting (10$ a month). It
includes a bandwith usage of up to 2mbps . Note that I don't intend to
use it for VoIP hosting.

There are plenty of providers. You need to shop around a bit.

> I don't have a list of  
> bandwidth costs here for other hosting providers.   Of course, Amazon  
> is simply the most well-known "cloud" system at the moment but you can  
> fill in the slots in the spreadsheet with whatever data might be  
> applicable.  Amazon also has a decent IP network peering structure  
> from what I've seen, so paths into their network are typically short  
> and direct.  

The location of the hosting facility is something you can easily find
with every such provider.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-13 Thread John Todd 

On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
>>
>> I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on
>> the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations
>> I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's
>> system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these  
>> calculations -
>> but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may  
>> glom
>> onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in
>> there.
>>
>>   http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
>>
>> The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a
>> standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which  
>> when
>> compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not
>> including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth)  
>> only
>> $38.56 more.  Very interesting.
>
> For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host  
> which
> will probably do as well.


For the average Xen VM host, what's the price for bandwidth, assuming  
G.711 channels at the rates I quoted?  I don't have a list of  
bandwidth costs here for other hosting providers.   Of course, Amazon  
is simply the most well-known "cloud" system at the moment but you can  
fill in the slots in the spreadsheet with whatever data might be  
applicable.  Amazon also has a decent IP network peering structure  
from what I've seen, so paths into their network are typically short  
and direct.  How packets move around inside their network is still up  
to experimentation - waiting on someone to test jitter, packet loss  
(RONALD-AND-NIR) and other criteria.

The wildcard in the calculation (which is not examined) is having  
enough bandwidth out of your office to handle X simultaneous calls,  
and how much that costs.

JT

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen 
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote:
> 
> I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on  
> the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations  
> I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's  
> system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations -  
> but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom  
> onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in  
> there.
> 
>http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls
> 
> The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a  
> standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when  
> compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not  
> including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only  
> $38.56 more.  Very interesting.

For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which
will probably do as well.

-- 
   Tzafrir Cohen
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+972-50-7952406   mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed

2009-02-13 Thread John Todd 

I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on  
the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system.  Here are some calculations  
I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's  
system.  Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations -  
but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom  
onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in  
there.

   http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls

The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a  
standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when  
compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not  
including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only  
$38.56 more.  Very interesting.

JT

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445 Jan Davis Drive NW -  Huntsville AL 35806  -   USA
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2

2008-04-15 Thread Philippe Creytens 
I have tried to install an Asterisk server on a CentOS EC2 image. The
install went ok. I was able to connect with X-lite to the instance and the
instance apparently played back SayDigits(123) (see below)

Connected to Asterisk 1.4.19 currently running on domU-12-31-38-00-91-42
(pid = 13114)
Verbosity is at least 5CLI>
   -- Executing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1] Ringing("SIP/xlite1-081b83f0", "") in new
stack
   -- Executing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2] Wait("SIP/xlite1-081b83f0", "2") in new
stack
   -- Executing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3] SayDigits("SIP/xlite1-081b83f0", "123") in
new stack
   --  Playing 'digits/1' (language 'en')
   --  Playing 'digits/2' (language 'en')
   --  Playing 'digits/3' (language 'en')
 == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/xlite1-081b83f0' status is 'UNKNOWN'
   -- Executing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1] Ringing("SIP/xlite1-081ca050", "") in new
stack
   -- Executing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2] Wait("SIP/xlite1-081ca050", "2") in new
stack
   -- Executing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3] SayDigits("SIP/xlite1-081ca050", "123") in
new stack
   --  Playing 'digits/1' (language 'en')
   --  Playing 'digits/2' (language 'en')
   --  Playing 'digits/3' (language 'en')
 == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/xlite1-081ca050' status is 'UNKNOWN'

However, I DO NOT hear the actual playback on X-lite.
I feel that something is wrong with non-opened ports. Can anyone help? Did
anyone succeed in getting Asterik to run on EC2?

Philippe
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