[asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Corporate IT Solutions - Michael Dunne]

After working with the Grandstream GXP 2000 series phones, I have
decided that I am quite unhappy with their problems, both voice quality,
volume, features and others. For their price now, there are plenty of
phones to choose from as  well.

 

So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium
business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.

 

Are the Cisco 7960 the best of the bunch, or Aastra etc?

 

I have just had a GXP start its daily lockup where you come in in the
morning and it requires a hard reset, and this is getting a little
boring having to keep flashing and carrying on.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Bill Hackensack]

On 4/2/07, Corporate IT Solutions - Michael Dunne <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium
business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.



Does _anyone_ read the archives anymore?  This is like a weekly question or
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Gordon Henderson]

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Corporate IT Solutions - Michael Dunne wrote:


After working with the Grandstream GXP 2000 series phones, I have
decided that I am quite unhappy with their problems, both voice quality,
volume, features and others. For their price now, there are plenty of
phones to choose from as  well.

So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium
business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.

Are the Cisco 7960 the best of the bunch, or Aastra etc?

I have just had a GXP start its daily lockup where you come in in the
morning and it requires a hard reset, and this is getting a little
boring having to keep flashing and carrying on.


I'm intrigued... I've deployed many GXP2000's now, as has a friend of 
mine, and we've not seen these sorts of problems ... I'm currently of the 
opinion that for their cost they actually are a good desk phone... But am 
I simply looking for trouble? (I've not started to use the BLF features 
yet though - maybe this is where the issues are?)


Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

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I have got a couple of Snom 360 and am very pleased with them.

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:09:43 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Corporate IT Solutions - Michael Dunne wrote:
> 
>> After working with the Grandstream GXP 2000 series phones, I have
>> decided that I am quite unhappy with their problems, both voice quality,
>> volume, features and others. For their price now, there are plenty of
>> phones to choose from as  well.
>>
>> So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium
>> business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.
>>
>> Are the Cisco 7960 the best of the bunch, or Aastra etc?
>>
>> I have just had a GXP start its daily lockup where you come in in the
>> morning and it requires a hard reset, and this is getting a little
>> boring having to keep flashing and carrying on.
> 
> I'm intrigued... I've deployed many GXP2000's now, as has a friend of
> mine, and we've not seen these sorts of problems ... I'm currently of the
> opinion that for their cost they actually are a good desk phone... But am
> I simply looking for trouble? (I've not started to use the BLF features
> yet though - maybe this is where the issues are?)
> 
> Gordon
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Ken Williams]

I've deployed about 40 GXP's and also haven't had the issues some are
reporting.  The one "issue" is if I have to restart the server for any
reason I have to reboot all the phones for the BLF to light up properly.
This is easily accomplished by a script on the server, allows me to
reboot all the phones with one command and takes about 2 minutes.  I'm
very happy with these phones. 

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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Corporate IT Solutions - Michael Dunne wrote:

> After working with the Grandstream GXP 2000 series phones, I have 
> decided that I am quite unhappy with their problems, both voice 
> quality, volume, features and others. For their price now, there are 
> plenty of phones to choose from as  well.
>
> So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium 
> business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.
>
> Are the Cisco 7960 the best of the bunch, or Aastra etc?
>
> I have just had a GXP start its daily lockup where you come in in the 
> morning and it requires a hard reset, and this is getting a little 
> boring having to keep flashing and carrying on.

I'm intrigued... I've deployed many GXP2000's now, as has a friend of
mine, and we've not seen these sorts of problems ... I'm currently of
the opinion that for their cost they actually are a good desk phone...
But am I simply looking for trouble? (I've not started to use the BLF
features yet though - maybe this is where the issues are?)

Gordon
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Michael Graves]

I think that the Polycom phones are really good, but their lack of support for 
Asterisk is legendary. Of those I prefer the IP600/601 for the better display.

The Aastra 480i and 480i CT are my other favorite. This is currently what lives 
on my desk. It supports multiple lines but only 2 simultaneous calls using 
G.729.

Michael

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 07:00:56 -0600, Ken Williams wrote:

>> After working with the Grandstream GXP 2000 series phones, I have 
>> decided that I am quite unhappy with their problems, both voice 
>> quality, volume, features and others. For their price now, there are 
>> plenty of phones to choose from as  well.
>>
>> So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium 
>> business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.
>>
>> Are the Cisco 7960 the best of the bunch, or Aastra etc?
>>
>> I have just had a GXP start its daily lockup where you come in in the 
>> morning and it requires a hard reset, and this is getting a little 
>> boring having to keep flashing and carrying on.

>I'm intrigued... I've deployed many GXP2000's now, as has a friend of
>mine, and we've not seen these sorts of problems ... I'm currently of
>the opinion that for their cost they actually are a good desk phone...
>But am I simply looking for trouble? (I've not started to use the BLF
>features yet though - maybe this is where the issues are?)

>Gordon
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Chris Bagnall]

> > After working with the Grandstream GXP 2000 series phones, I have
> > decided that I am quite unhappy with their problems, both voice
> > quality, volume, features and others. For their price now, there are
> > plenty of phones to choose from as  well.

A couple of years ago when we first started doing medium-sized asterisk 
deployments, we installed a fair few GXP2000s. In fairness, at the time, they 
were about the only "business" phone in the £70 range that most of our clients 
were prepared to pay, so our choice was rather limited. Over the last 3-4 
months they've finally got the firmware to the point it should have been when 
the phone was first released.

> > So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium
> > business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.

As always, it depends on your requirements. Personally, I love the 7960 on my 
desk, but the price point is too high for the vast majority of our clients, and 
many of them find it physically too big for their desks. We've had a go with 
the Elmeg ip290s, Linksys SPA-942s, and hope to play with the new Aastra range 
in the next few days. 

For build quality and footprint, the SPA-942s are hard to fault, but the web 
interface isn't the most pleasant and remote provisioning is hit-and-miss 
(mainly dependent on how cooperative your supplier is at getting you the 
provisioning documentation/software).

The ip290 has a nice, easy-to-use web interface that it's almost safe to let 
clients loose with, but the buttons feel cheap and the handset's too easy to 
misplace and leave a call active whilst meaning to hang up. On the other hand, 
the ip290 seems to play much more nicely behind NAT than anything else I've 
tried.

I'm very hopeful for the Aastra 55i/57i phones. The buttons are a little on the 
small side, but they feel firm, and the handset has a decent feel to it. Aastra 
have traditionally been very good about providing comprehensive documentation 
about their phones, so things like XML services/remote provisioning/etc. 
shouldn't be a problem. There's also the advantage that you can bolt a sidecar 
onto either model, which means you can stick with a common phone across a 
deployment for both receptionists and other staff - just add a sidecar or three 
to the receptionist phones.

> This is easily accomplished by a script on the server, allows me to
> reboot all the phones with one command and takes about 2 minutes.  I'm
> very happy with these phones.

How would you feel about sharing that script with the list? I'm sure it'd be of 
use to many of us here.

Regards,

Chris
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Ken Williams]

 

Somewhere I found a link to gsutil utility that someone wrote.  A quick
google looks like
http://freshmeat.net/projects/gsutil/?branch_id=59227&release_id=219046
is probably the best place to get it.

This utility actually has quite a few nifty options, here's a copy of
the help:

Version 3.0 of GSutil, a GrandStream BudgeTone phone backup, restore
and reboot utility.  Written by Charles Howes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
http://www.pkts.ca/gsutil.shtml
Usage: /root/bin/gsutil -[b|d|e|h|r] [-n] [-o] [-p password] address..
  -b : reboot
  -d : dump to stdout
  -e : show phone firmware versions
  -r : restore from stdin
  -n : don't wait for reboot to finish
  -o : don't translate configuration values
  -p : password (default: admin)
  -h, --help : print this help
  --version : print the version of gsutil

As for my script, I just use 'gsutil -bn ' in a script I called gsreboot.  



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> This is easily accomplished by a script on the server, allows me to 
> reboot all the phones with one command and takes about 2 minutes.  I'm

> very happy with these phones.

How would you feel about sharing that script with the list? I'm sure
it'd be of use to many of us here.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Andrew Joakimsen]

For build quality and footprint, the SPA-942s are hard to fault, but the web 
interface isn't the >most pleasant and remote provisioning is hit-and-miss (mainly 
dependent on how cooperative >your supplier is at getting you the provisioning 
documentation/software).



As for Linksys, their resellers arent "supposed" to give out the
provisioning details. You need to be a "service provider" with a
"real" softswitch, IE: not Asterisk.

http://spc.pifiu.com the community had to do something about the lack
of provisioning details. I firmly believe that when you own a device
you have the right to do whatever you wish with it.
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Gordon Henderson]

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Chris Bagnall wrote:


This is easily accomplished by a script on the server, allows me to
reboot all the phones with one command and takes about 2 minutes.  I'm
very happy with these phones.


How would you feel about sharing that script with the list? I'm sure 
it'd be of use to many of us here.


Not sure what Ken has been using, but I've been using this:

  http://www.pkts.ca/gsutil.shtml

for a while.

Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Stephen Bosch]

Bill Hackensack wrote:
> On 4/2/07, *Corporate IT Solutions - Michael Dunne*
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> 
> So subjectively what would be the best Hardphone for a small/medium
> business with multiple line support, BLF, etc.
> 
>  
> Does _anyone_ read the archives anymore?  This is like a weekly question
> or something.

Oh look! Bill is back!

-S
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardphone (Subjective?)

[Stephen Bosch]

Michael Graves wrote:
> I think that the Polycom phones are really good, but their lack of
> support for Asterisk is legendary.

Though I'm no fan of some of Polycom's policies, this isn't strictly
true anymore.

They know which way the wind is blowing:
http://forms.polycom.com/audio_files/techpartners.htm

-Stephen-
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