Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-09 Thread Lenz

Maybe I was lucky, but a client of mine has a 24 FXO TDM2400 and works  
like a charm :)
l.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:06:52 +0200, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Because they tried competing with the channel bank market. But guess
 what, it has only one competitive edge, it's cheaper. But if you want
 something that works use a channel bank. Although I have no experience
 with Xorcoms USB based channel banks, I have a feeling they work
 better than Digiums TDM24xx cards.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-06 Thread C F
On 10/5/07, Tony Mountifield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you want this to work nicely dont settle for anything else than a
  channel bank

 So why have Digium bothered to market a TDM2400P then? :-S

 Cheers
 Tony

Because they tried competing with the channel bank market. But guess
what, it has only one competitive edge, it's cheaper. But if you want
something that works use a channel bank. Although I have no experience
with Xorcoms USB based channel banks, I have a feeling they work
better than Digiums TDM24xx cards.



  On 10/3/07, Thomas Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC wrote:
Those are all analog though, aren't they? What about a channel bank into
a digital card?  Might that be cheaper than shelling out for 12 FXO
ports and the cards to hold them?
   
Just wanted to throw that out there before the discussion started :)
   
   It might well be, but try as I might, I can't find a channel bank that
   supports 12 FXO ports that would be less than an A400 with 6x2 FXO cards
   (£490 the first place I looked, with only software echo cancellation or
   £644 with HW-EC).
  
   Or as the above poster mentioned a Rhino card (would be much cheaper
   than sangoma if you required 24 ports and Hardware Echo cancellation).
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-05 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you want this to work nicely dont settle for anything else than a
 channel bank

So why have Digium bothered to market a TDM2400P then? :-S

Cheers
Tony

 On 10/3/07, Thomas Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC wrote:
   Those are all analog though, aren't they? What about a channel bank into
   a digital card?  Might that be cheaper than shelling out for 12 FXO
   ports and the cards to hold them?
  
   Just wanted to throw that out there before the discussion started :)
  
  It might well be, but try as I might, I can't find a channel bank that
  supports 12 FXO ports that would be less than an A400 with 6x2 FXO cards
  (£490 the first place I looked, with only software echo cancellation or
  £644 with HW-EC).
 
  Or as the above poster mentioned a Rhino card (would be much cheaper
  than sangoma if you required 24 ports and Hardware Echo cancellation).
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-05 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony Mountifield wrote:
  I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
  to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.
 
  It looks like I could do this with four different hardware configurations:
 
  a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
  b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
  c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
  d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)
 
  Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there any
  technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the others?
 
  Cheers
  Tony

 If the Ericsson PBX has a T1 card already and you have one in your 
 asterisk box, that would be the cleanest way of acheiving what you 
 want.

We always try to use E1/T1 where possible, but this customer specifically
wanted to interface to a bunch of analogue ports, so I assume T1 is
not an option in this case.

 You could also use a channel bank with the analog and convert to 
 T1 for the Asterisk connection.
 
 I try to use T1 (PRI if possible) whenever more than four analog trunks 
 will be involved.  I have had tons of bad experiences with analog cards, 
 very few with ISDN.

I have no experience of channel banks, but I expect that for 12 ports
a channel bank and a TE110P would work out more expensive than a half
populated TDM2400P.

Thanks to all the others that contributed to this thread too..

Cheers
Tony
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-05 Thread mgraves

  Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Mountifield)
 Date: Fri, October 05, 2007 4:05 am
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you want this to work nicely dont settle for anything else than a
  channel bank
 So why have Digium bothered to market a TDM2400P then? :-S
 Cheers
 Tony

Because they don't make channel banks? That's a question of economics
and techno-culture. If you're into boards (X100p, TDM400p, etc) then
making another board fits your worldview. If not, then perhaps a channel
bank makes more sense. 

Xorcom's USB connected device is kinda like a channel bank. I believe
that you can get 12 FXOs via that device and not need a t-1/E-12 card in
the Asterisk server at all. That could be the most cost effective
approach.

Michael


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[asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Tony Mountifield
I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.

It looks like I could do this with four different hardware configurations:

a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)

Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there any
technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the others?

Cheers
Tony
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Totaro
Tony Mountifield wrote:
 I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
 to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.

 It looks like I could do this with four different hardware configurations:

 a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
 b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
 c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
 d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)

 Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there any
 technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the others?

 Cheers
 Tony
   
If the Ericsson PBX has a T1 card already and you have one in your 
asterisk box, that would be the cleanest way of acheiving what you 
want.  You could also use a channel bank with the analog and convert to 
T1 for the Asterisk connection.

I try to use T1 (PRI if possible) whenever more than four analog trunks 
will be involved.  I have had tons of bad experiences with analog cards, 
very few with ISDN.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Tony Mountifield wrote:
 I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
 to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.
 
 It looks like I could do this with four different hardware configurations:
 
 a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
 b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
 c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
 d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)
 
 Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there any
 technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the others?
 
No idea, but if you look further afield, if you buy a Sangoma A200 or an
A400 you can have all 12 on one PCI (or PCI Express) slot (the former
taking up 3 Spaces on your PCs backplane and the latter taking up only 1).

If expandability is a concern, an A400 can support up to 48 FXO ports on
one PCI (or PCI-Express) Slot (4 spaces) or an A200 can support up to 24
FXO ports. (6 spaces)

I can't comment on how good they are, I've only got TDM400Ps myself.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
Those are all analog though, aren't they? What about a channel bank into 
a digital card?  Might that be cheaper than shelling out for 12 FXO 
ports and the cards to hold them? 

Just wanted to throw that out there before the discussion started :)

Tony Mountifield wrote:
 I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
 to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.

 It looks like I could do this with four different hardware configurations:

 a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
 b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
 c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
 d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)

 Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there any
 technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the others?

 Cheers
 Tony
   


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Darren Wright
None are great options.   I'd use a T1 card and a channel bank.  

At minimum I'd do the single 2400P.   IRQ problems are going to be a
bear with multiple cards.

-Darren



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 Subject: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?
 
 I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
 to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.
 
 It looks like I could do this with four different hardware
configurations:
 
 a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
 b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
 c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
 d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)
 
 Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there
any
 technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the
 others?
 
 Cheers
 Tony
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Darrick Hartman (lists)
Thomas Kenyon wrote:
 Tony Mountifield wrote:
 I have a client who wants a Meetme box with 12 FXO ports, to connect
 to Analogue lines coming from an Ericsson PBX.

 It looks like I could do this with four different hardware configurations:

 a) three TDM04B cards (based on TDM400P)
 b) one TDM04B and one TDM808B
 c) one TDM804B (or TDM854B?) and one TDP808B
 d) one TDM2403B (half filled TDM2400P)

 Apart from considerations of cost and PCI slot availability, are there any
 technical reasons to choose one of the above configurations over the others?

 No idea, but if you look further afield, if you buy a Sangoma A200 or an
 A400 you can have all 12 on one PCI (or PCI Express) slot (the former
 taking up 3 Spaces on your PCs backplane and the latter taking up only 1).
 
 If expandability is a concern, an A400 can support up to 48 FXO ports on
 one PCI (or PCI-Express) Slot (4 spaces) or an A200 can support up to 24
 FXO ports. (6 spaces)
 
 I can't comment on how good they are, I've only got TDM400Ps myself.

Rhino also makes some very nice cards and have a good support staff. 
The Rhino cards are also made in the US.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC wrote:
 Those are all analog though, aren't they? What about a channel bank into 
 a digital card?  Might that be cheaper than shelling out for 12 FXO 
 ports and the cards to hold them? 
 
 Just wanted to throw that out there before the discussion started :)
 
It might well be, but try as I might, I can't find a channel bank that
supports 12 FXO ports that would be less than an A400 with 6x2 FXO cards
(£490 the first place I looked, with only software echo cancellation or
£644 with HW-EC).

Or as the above poster mentioned a Rhino card (would be much cheaper
than sangoma if you required 24 ports and Hardware Echo cancellation).

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best config for 12 FXO system?

2007-10-03 Thread C F
If you want this to work nicely dont settle for anything else than a
channel bank

On 10/3/07, Thomas Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC wrote:
  Those are all analog though, aren't they? What about a channel bank into
  a digital card?  Might that be cheaper than shelling out for 12 FXO
  ports and the cards to hold them?
 
  Just wanted to throw that out there before the discussion started :)
 
 It might well be, but try as I might, I can't find a channel bank that
 supports 12 FXO ports that would be less than an A400 with 6x2 FXO cards
 (£490 the first place I looked, with only software echo cancellation or
 £644 with HW-EC).

 Or as the above poster mentioned a Rhino card (would be much cheaper
 than sangoma if you required 24 ports and Hardware Echo cancellation).

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