[asterisk-users] Cisco acquires Jabber

2008-09-20 Thread Dean Collins
Wow - now this interesting

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/19/cisco-acquires-jabber-for-enterpris
e-im/

 

I wonder what this means in the long run for the open development of
this platform?

 

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco acquires Jabber

2008-09-20 Thread David Backeberg
 I wonder what this means in the long run for the open development of this
 platform?

Not a darn thing, unless Cisco screws around and makes an incompatible
version of a jabber server and client that doesn't play according to
the protocol. Microsoft Java, anybody?

We'll see how long this list stays true:
http://www.jabber.com/CE/JabberXCPInteroperabilityOptions

Cisco didn't buy the protocol, and literally dozens of open-source
projects that use the protocol in various ways are not affected by
this. They bought one commercial implementation of a Jabber server
(arguably multiple implementations).

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco acquires Jabber

2008-09-20 Thread Dean Collins
No I know they just bought the company and not the protocol basically
they bought engineering bums on seats.

http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/cisco-acquires-jabber.html

 

Cisco obviously didn't buy jabber.com engineers to implement a Cisco IM
platform for their retail clients and that they must have something much
bigger in mind.

 

You could possible see different Cisco devices communicating with each
other (or even using an api to communicate with other manufacturers
devices) eg, you might have an XMPP api to 'discover' appliance
functionality or to communicate status updates.

 

 

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 I wonder what this means in the long run for the open development of
this

 platform?

 

Not a darn thing, unless Cisco screws around and makes an incompatible

version of a jabber server and client that doesn't play according to

the protocol. Microsoft Java, anybody?

 

We'll see how long this list stays true:

http://www.jabber.com/CE/JabberXCPInteroperabilityOptions

 

Cisco didn't buy the protocol, and literally dozens of open-source

projects that use the protocol in various ways are not affected by

this. They bought one commercial implementation of a Jabber server

(arguably multiple implementations).

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco acquires Jabber

2008-09-20 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:18:42PM -0400, Dean Collins wrote:

No I know they just bought the company and not the protocol basically
they bought engineering bums on seats.
[1]http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/cisco-acquires-jabber.ht
ml
Cisco obviously didn't buy jabber.com engineers to implement a Cisco IM
platform for their retail clients and that they must have something
much bigger in mind.
You could possible see different Cisco devices communicating with each
other (or even using an api to communicate with other manufacturers
devices) eg, you might have an XMPP api to 'discover' appliance
functionality or to communicate status updates.

Jabber.com are in some big US gov departments, these are probably just
the bodies Cisco want to get into with their UM systems. Making Cisco's
UM based on Jabber and buying the expertise probably is a wise move for
them. Also gives them interoperability with other systems ...

Then move it down into the SME market as Linksys appliance.

Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco acquires Jabber

2008-09-20 Thread mitcheloc
Cisco obviously didn't buy jabber.com engineers to implement a Cisco IM
platform for their retail clients and that they must have something much
bigger in mind.

Dean, I'm right there with you. My money is on them using it as the first
step in a larger strategy to provide a framework for applications to run on
network without needing an operating system. Think Amazon Elastic Cloud
(with P2P and presence built in) but for applications.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  No I know they just bought the company and not the protocol basically
 they bought engineering bums on seats.

 http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/cisco-acquires-jabber.html



 Cisco obviously didn't buy jabber.com engineers to implement a Cisco IM
 platform for their retail clients and that they must have something much
 bigger in mind.



 You could possible see different Cisco devices communicating with each
 other (or even using an api to communicate with other manufacturers devices)
 eg, you might have an XMPP api to 'discover' appliance functionality or to
 communicate status updates.





 Regards,

 Dean Collins
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 +1-212-203-4357 (New York)
 +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney)
 http://www.Cognation.net http://www.cognation.net/profile

 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Backeberg
 Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:58 AM
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 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco acquires Jabber



  I wonder what this means in the long run for the open development of this

  platform?



 Not a darn thing, unless Cisco screws around and makes an incompatible

 version of a jabber server and client that doesn't play according to

 the protocol. Microsoft Java, anybody?



 We'll see how long this list stays true:

 http://www.jabber.com/CE/JabberXCPInteroperabilityOptions



 Cisco didn't buy the protocol, and literally dozens of open-source

 projects that use the protocol in various ways are not affected by

 this. They bought one commercial implementation of a Jabber server

 (arguably multiple implementations).



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