Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-24 Thread Andreas Sikkema
On 1/23/12 4:39 PM, eherr wrote:
 Where I want to put the new on is outside the range.
 
 I thought SIP cordless phones would be better on the range.


If you want to extend the range of a DECT basestation you can use
repeaters, but you then lose DECT encryption and you can only add up to
6 repeaters around one basestation.

Extending your range beyond that requires a proper DECT network and
brings you into a whole new cost level. But that can go up to 256x12
handsets and 256x8 (IIRC) simultaneous calls...

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[asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread eherr
I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and IP650s 
registering to it both locally and remote.

 

I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote location; not a 
wireless phone.

 

I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so it can take 
calls and transfers.

 

Any idea?

 

Thanks,

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and IP650s
 registering to it both locally and remote.

 ** **

 I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote location;
 not a wireless phone.

 ** **

 I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so it can
 take calls and transfers.



What is the difference between a cordless phone and a wireless one?

We use and recommend the Panasonic KX-TGP500 and 550.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread eherr
To be honest I am not sure.

 

I was under the impression that there was a cordless SIP phone that 
communicated back to the base which was hardwired into the
network.

 

Anything like that?

 

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:20 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:

I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and IP650s 
registering to it both locally and remote.

 

I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote location; not a 
wireless phone.

 

I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so it can take 
calls and transfers.

 

 

What is the difference between a cordless phone and a wireless one?

 

We use and recommend the Panasonic KX-TGP500 and 550.


 

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TelEvolve

602-889-3003

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Ishfaq Malik
Hi

You're looking for SIP DECT phones.

In out experience Gigaset do a very good range of these.

http://gigaset.com/uk/en/cms/PageCordlessPhones.html

Regards

ISh

On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 10:27 -0500, eherr wrote:
 To be honest I am not sure.
 
  
 
 I was under the impression that there was a cordless SIP phone that
 communicated back to the base which was hardwired into the network.
 
  
 
 Anything like that?
 
  
 
 --E
 
  
 
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Carlos
 Alvarez
 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:20 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone
 
 
  
 
 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and IP650s
 registering to it both locally and remote.
 
  
 
 I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote
 location; not a wireless phone.
 
  
 
 I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so it
 can take calls and transfers.
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 What is the difference between a cordless phone and a wireless one?
 
  
 
 
 We use and recommend the Panasonic KX-TGP500 and 550.
 
 
  
 
 
 -- 
 
 Carlos Alvarez
 
 
 TelEvolve
 
 
 602-889-3003
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 23 January 2012, eherr wrote:
 I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and IP650s
 registering to it both locally and remote.
  
 I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote location;
 not a wireless phone.
  
 I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so it can
 take calls and transfers.
  
 Any idea?

Some sort of FXS adaptor  (Grandstream HandyTone 286 is still available)  and 
a generic cordless phone from any electronics store?  You may also need an 
adaptor with an RJ11 plug and whatever phone socket your local telephone 
company use; and in some countries this will need to be a master type  (with 
bell capacitor),  or else the phone may not ring.  (A half-master type -- 
which has the bell capacitor but lacks a surge arrester -- will also work 
fine.)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread eherr
I have one of these already installed. 

I have a plain household cordless phone plugged into an SPA which then SIPs 
back to the server.

Where I want to put the new on is outside the range.

I thought SIP cordless phones would be better on the range.

Either way, does the two mentioned:

Gigaset
Panasonic KX-TGP500

Allow to program an extension from the asterisk so it is integrated into the 
phone system as if it were just another Polycom
extension?

Thanks,
--E

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:36 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

On Monday 23 January 2012, eherr wrote:
 I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and IP650s
 registering to it both locally and remote.
  
 I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote location;
 not a wireless phone.
  
 I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so it can
 take calls and transfers.
  
 Any idea?

Some sort of FXS adaptor  (Grandstream HandyTone 286 is still available)  and 
a generic cordless phone from any electronics store?  You may also need an 
adaptor with an RJ11 plug and whatever phone socket your local telephone 
company use; and in some countries this will need to be a master type  (with 
bell capacitor),  or else the phone may not ring.  (A half-master type -- 
which has the bell capacitor but lacks a surge arrester -- will also work 
fine.)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Ishfaq Malik
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 10:39 -0500, eherr wrote:
 Either way, does the two mentioned:
 
 Gigaset
 Panasonic KX-TGP500
 
 Allow to program an extension from the asterisk so it is integrated
 into the phone system as if it were just another Polycom
 extension? 

Yes, the Gigasets can do. You can have up to 3 handsets attached to one
base station and you can configure it so that each handset can be a
separate extension or that they call all be the same one.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 23 January 2012, eherr wrote:
 I have one of these already installed.
 
 I have a plain household cordless phone plugged into an SPA which then SIPs
 back to the server.
 
 Where I want to put the new on is outside the range.
 
 I thought SIP cordless phones would be better on the range.
 
 Either way, does the two mentioned:
 
 Gigaset
 Panasonic KX-TGP500
 
 Allow to program an extension from the asterisk so it is integrated into
 the phone system as if it were just another Polycom extension?

As far as Asterisk is concerned, any SIP phone  (even a POTS phone plugged 
into a SIP-FXS adaptor)  is a SIP phone  (we once had an unholy mix of 
Grandstream, Zultys and another make I can't remember now on our network).  
You just have to give it an entry in sip.conf with a default context.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:27 AM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be honest I am not sure.

 ** **

 I was under the impression that there was a cordless SIP phone that
 communicated back to the base which was hardwired into the network.

 ** **

 Anything like that?



Yes, that describes the phones I recommended.  You can buy one that is a
base phone with an internal DECT base station plus wireless handsets, or a
base station alone.  Inexpensive and reliable, users seem to really like
them.

Perhaps you meant one that is not wi-fi?  I would agree with that, I have a
pile of totally useless wi-fi phones, they are all garbage.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:39 AM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Either way, does the two mentioned:

 Gigaset
 Panasonic KX-TGP500

 Allow to program an extension from the asterisk so it is integrated into
 the phone system as if it were just another Polycom
 extension?


Yes, both the base phones and wireless handsets have multiple SIP
registrations that behave just like any other SIP endpoint.  Each can work
independently, even with the base phone being the DECT base.  I believe
that system supports six wireless phones per base, but it might be more,
check the spec sheet.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Ira

At 06:35 AM 1/23/2012, you wrote:

I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote 
location; not a wireless phone.


I use Snom M3s. We have one base station and 3 handsets. They work 
fine, but they don't feel like a business phone.  The base is SIP to 
DECT so the wireless quality is good. Range is fine for our small house.


Ira 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Benny Amorsen
Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.com writes:

 Perhaps you meant one that is not wi-fi? I would agree with that, I
 have a pile of totally useless wi-fi phones, they are all garbage.

Ascom has some fantastic Wi-fi phones. They are expensive, but they are
the only Wi-fi phones I have tried which actually work as phones. They
manage to get a signal in places where other devices give up, and if
they lose signal they are quick to regain it when you get closer to the
access point.

The cost is a challenge in most installations; DECT often comes out
cheaper even if you include SIP DECT base stations.


/Benny


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Re: [asterisk-users] Cordless SIP phone

2012-01-23 Thread Jason W. Parks

In my neck of the woods...

A Cordless Phone refers to a cordless handset with a wired base. The 
phone communicates with the base and can't work without it. It's usually 
proprietary in nature as well.


A Wireless Phone usually refers to any phone communicating via 802.11. 
No base required. A cell phone is also sometimes referred to as a 
wireless phone.




On 1/23/2012 8:19 AM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com 
mailto:email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:


I have an asterisk box which has Polycom Soundpoints IP335 and
IP650s registering to it both locally and remote.

I want to be able to incorporate a cordless phone at the remote
location; not a wireless phone.

I want it to also be able to register to the same asterisk box so
it can take calls and transfers.



What is the difference between a cordless phone and a wireless one?

We use and recommend the Panasonic KX-TGP500 and 550.

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