Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Sean Bright]

Not at all!  "You apparently don't realize (sic) you're talking to" is just
a subtle way of saying "look me up!"  Matt was just nice enough to do the
leg work :-)

On 10/12/07, David Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What a waste of time...
>
>
> dave
>
> On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 09:35 -0600, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> > Brian West wrote:
> > > And what was the purpose of this?
> >
> > So that we would "realize who we were talking to."
> >
> > :)
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[David Boyd]

What a waste of time...


dave

On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 09:35 -0600, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> Brian West wrote:
> > And what was the purpose of this?
> 
> So that we would "realize who we were talking to."
> 
> :)
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Stephen Bosch]

Hi, Brian:

Brian West wrote:
> Matt,
> I talk very openly about this issue.  It was very rude of you to bring 
> this up.  This plea was total bullshit.  If you want to know the whole 
> story feel free to call me and talk about it.  918-424-9378... anyone 
> can call me and ask me questions about it.  The plea was a deal worked 
> out between the DOJ and my attorney which was good because I signed my 
> plea on Sept. 4th 2001.  If you try to fight the DOJ you will not win.  
> That plea was the only way to settle the issue without a trial.  All I 
> did was click edit in frontpage and alert them of anonymous publishing 
> priv. were on their servers and they called the FBI and three days later 
> our office was raided.  This I consider mudslinging by you and wasn't 
> very gentle man like.

I'm not making excuses for anyone, but I have the following suggestion:

If you treat people respectfully, without being snide or aggressive, 
then you will be much less likely to open yourself up to responses in kind.

You throw your weight around a lot on the list. Try giving friendly, 
constructive input. You will be amazed at the results.

Cheers,

-Stephen-

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Stephen Bosch]

Brian West wrote:
> And what was the purpose of this?

So that we would "realize who we were talking to."

:)

-Stephen-


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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Giovanni Miano]

did anyone think about how many concurrent call runs on DS3 and how may call
single asterisk instance can handle ?!
That board does not have any DSP, Who will do trans-coding ? echo
cancellation ?

Well, keep us update

2007/10/9, Tim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  If it hasn't already been done I am looking to put together a team to
> write drivers for this DS3 card to interface asterisk.
>
>
>
> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
>
>
>
> The card itself seems reasonable and I believe we can make it work. As
> soon as I have positive feedback to begin the project I will put a server on
> the net with a card in it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Let's make this happen.
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Baji Panchumarti]

  On 10/9/07, Brian West  wrote:

>  [...]   All I did was click edit in frontpage and alert them
>  of anonymous publishing priv. were on their servers
>  and they called the FBI  [...]

 I believe you.

 The astonishing security holes that were engineered
 by MS so their web editing-publishing-browsing suites
 could work together were unbelievable.

 Sometimes the "Network Neighborhood" included the
 entire internet  :-)

 For the longest time they lobbied congress to pass laws
 that would have made it a crime for anyone discovering
 a security hole, to reveal the hole to the public before MS
 had a chance to fix it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 14:32:38 Matt wrote:
>> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm
> 
> And your point, precisely, is what?
> 
> Someone who has a criminal record can't be a technical authority?  Someone 
> can't have a criminal record without being a scumbag?  Or perhaps that you 
> prefer to write off those who can best your technical prowess by any means 
> possible?
> 
> My money's on the latter.
> 
> -A.


FREE KEVIN!!!  Oh wait, he is free...

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

I would recommend doing it on a 64bit platform for sure.  Not sure  
Asterisk has very many linger issues on 64bit... I know I run it on  
64bit without too much drama.


/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:


Please ,  step back form the keyboard ,  take a deep breath .
then maybe we can get on with the discussion of creating a
driver under aterisk for a ds3 card .


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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Mr. James W. Laferriere]

Hello Gentleman & Ladies ,

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 14:20:33 Brian West wrote:
>> I'm number three on the dev team and not the soul person behind
>> FreeSWITCH.  Its very uncalled for.  You are dragging our project
>> thru the mud now also.  Don't pass judgement on me.  You sound quite
>> childish and waste my time.  Never judge a man till you walk a day in
>> his shoes.
>
> I'm not exactly sure that you're the right person to be taking offense at
> someone dragging a project's name through the mud.

Please ,  step back form the keyboard ,  take a deep breath .
then maybe we can get on with the discussion of creating a
driver under aterisk for a ds3 card .

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Tilghman Lesher]

On Tuesday 09 October 2007 14:20:33 Brian West wrote:
> I'm number three on the dev team and not the soul person behind
> FreeSWITCH.  Its very uncalled for.  You are dragging our project
> thru the mud now also.  Don't pass judgement on me.  You sound quite
> childish and waste my time.  Never judge a man till you walk a day in
> his shoes.

I'm not exactly sure that you're the right person to be taking offense at
someone dragging a project's name through the mud.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[zoachien]

I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion.

Zoa

Matt wrote:
> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm
>
> On 10/9/07, *Brian West* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You
> keep working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the
> time is right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for
> Asterisk we are doing it for FreeSWITCH.
>
> /b
>
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
>
>> Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your
>> implementation 
>>
>> is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as
>> long as 
>>
>> the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If
>> it the 
>>
>> same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Andrew Kohlsmith]

On Tuesday 09 October 2007 14:32:38 Matt wrote:
> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm

And your point, precisely, is what?

Someone who has a criminal record can't be a technical authority?  Someone 
can't have a criminal record without being a scumbag?  Or perhaps that you 
prefer to write off those who can best your technical prowess by any means 
possible?

My money's on the latter.

-A.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Tom]

Wow.  It shows that there is a lot of ignorance in the DOJ.  They 
should have thanked BW, not charged him. Thanks for blowing this way 
off track Matt.

Tom

At 01:32 PM 10/9/2007, you wrote:
>http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm
>
>On 10/9/07, Brian West < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep 
>working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is 
>right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are 
>doing it for FreeSWITCH.
>
>/b
>
>On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
>
>>Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your implementation
>>
>>is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as
>>
>>the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it the
>>
>>same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Hans Witvliet]

On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:14 -0400, Matt wrote:
> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are
> you hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a
> DS3s worth of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?
> 
I presume you can compare it with an ETSI C3 (34Mb instead of 45Mb)
Sometime offices are interconnected with them, and only a part of them
(a quarter) is used for telephony. In such cases, you would handle 120
lines.

And would latest systems not be able to cope with 480 lines?
Those beasts like hp580-G5 are probably heavy enough 
(four quad cores, 128GB mem)

Only fact against such config, is that it would be a major SPOF.

HW



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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Edwards]

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Brian West wrote:

> I'm number three on the dev team and not the soul person behind FreeSWITCH. 
> Its very uncalled for.  You are dragging our project thru the mud now also. 
> Don't pass judgement on me.  You sound quite childish and waste my time. 
> Never judge a man till you walk a day in his shoes.

The reference to FreeSwitch was uncalled for. Posting a link to a fact is 
not passing judgement.

(It may be unrelated to Asterisk, but it was of interest.)

Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

I'm number three on the dev team and not the soul person behind  
FreeSWITCH.  Its very uncalled for.  You are dragging our project  
thru the mud now also.  Don't pass judgement on me.  You sound quite  
childish and waste my time.  Never judge a man till you walk a day in  
his shoes.


/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Matt wrote:

Perhaps it was uncalled for.   However, if I were to consider using  
FreeSwitch I would want to know who was/is behind it.


On 10/9/07, Brian West < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And what was the purpose of this?

/b


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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[David Gomillion]

On 10/9/07, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm



Fascinating. Not really. Anyway, how is this related to Asterisk?
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Matt]

Perhaps it was uncalled for.   However, if I were to consider using
FreeSwitch I would want to know who was/is behind it.

On 10/9/07, Brian West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And what was the purpose of this?
> /b
>
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Matt wrote:
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm
>
> On 10/9/07, Brian West < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep
> > working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is right to
> > implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are doing it for
> > FreeSWITCH.
> > /b
> >
> > On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
> >
> > Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your implementation
> > is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as
> > the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it the
> > same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Baji Panchumarti]

  On 10/9/07, Matt  wrote:

> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm

 Hey,

 I am not sure what your point is, are you trying to shame
 West on this list with your post ?

 He is a contributor to the asterisk movement, which is the
 purpose of these lists.

 This was uncalled for.

 -baji.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

Well hopefully people can read between the lines.. I have talked  
about this issue in public many times and don't try to hide it but  
the plea isn't how it went down.

/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:

> Yes, I knew who I was talking to and now I know a little more about  
> you
> Matt, that was totally uncalled for.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
>
> Matt wrote:
>> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm
>>
>> On 10/9/07, *Brian West* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,   
>> You keep
>> working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the  
>> time is
>> right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we  
>> are
>> doing it for FreeSWITCH.
>>
>> /b
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
>>
>>> Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your
>>> implementation
>>>
>>> is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as  
>>> long as
>>>
>>> the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If
>>> it the
>>>
>>> same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

Matt,
	I talk very openly about this issue.  It was very rude of you to  
bring this up.  This plea was total bullshit.  If you want to know  
the whole story feel free to call me and talk about it.   
918-424-9378... anyone can call me and ask me questions about it.   
The plea was a deal worked out between the DOJ and my attorney which  
was good because I signed my plea on Sept. 4th 2001.  If you try to  
fight the DOJ you will not win.  That plea was the only way to settle  
the issue without a trial.  All I did was click edit in frontpage and  
alert them of anonymous publishing priv. were on their servers and  
they called the FBI and three days later our office was raided.  This  
I consider mudslinging by you and wasn't very gentle man like.


/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Matt wrote:


http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm

On 10/9/07, Brian West < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You  
keep working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the  
time is right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk  
we are doing it for FreeSWITCH.


/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:

Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your  
implementation

is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as
the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If  
it the

same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.

Thanks,
Steve



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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

Yes, I knew who I was talking to and now I know a little more about you 
Matt, that was totally uncalled for.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

Matt wrote:
> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm
> 
> On 10/9/07, *Brian West* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep
> working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is
> right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are
> doing it for FreeSWITCH.
> 
> /b
> 
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
> 
>> Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your
>> implementation 
>>
>> is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as 
>>
>> the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If
>> it the 
>>
>> same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

And what was the purpose of this?

/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Matt wrote:


http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm

On 10/9/07, Brian West < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You  
keep working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the  
time is right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk  
we are doing it for FreeSWITCH.


/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:

Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your  
implementation

is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as
the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If  
it the

same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Matt]

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/WestPlea.htm

On 10/9/07, Brian West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep
> working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is right to
> implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are doing it for
> FreeSWITCH.
> /b
>
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
>
> Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your implementation
>
> is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as
>
> the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it the
>
> same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

Well we are plugging it in the OpenZAP abstraction layer we have  
already started on.  This is usable by Asterisk also so asterisk  
would benefit from it.

http://fisheye.freeswitch.org/browse/OpenZAP

/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:

> BTW, this is the wrong list if it not for Asterisk.  It has absolutely
> nothing to do with Asterisk.
>
> Please post to the appropriate FreeSwitch list.
>
> Thanks again,
> Steve Totaro
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

BTW, this is the wrong list if it not for Asterisk.  It has absolutely 
nothing to do with Asterisk.

Please post to the appropriate FreeSwitch list.

Thanks again,
Steve Totaro

Brian West wrote:
> You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep 
> working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is right 
> to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are doing it 
> for FreeSWITCH.
> 
> /b
> 
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
> 
>> Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your implementation 
>>
>> is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as 
>>
>> the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it the 
>>
>> same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

Don't take it personally.  I have been on this list about as long as 
you.  BKW (Next!)   Ego can be good but let's not become egomaniacs 
shall we?

I am not working on it from any angle, and would probably never 
*entertain* using such a device. 

I prefer tried and true DS3 MUXs  such as the Adtran MX2800 and multiple 
TDM->SIP servers.  So much built in failover in this approach short of 
the entire DS3 going down.

Anyways, good luck with all 672 eggs in one basket, just don't drop it!  
It would suck to drop 600 plus calls all at once.

Thanks,
Steve

Brian West wrote:
> You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep 
> working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is 
> right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are 
> doing it for FreeSWITCH.
>
> /b
>
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:
>
>> Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your implementation 
>>
>> is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as 
>>
>> the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it the 
>>
>> same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

You apparently don't realize you're talking to.  Thats ok,  You keep  
working on it from your angle.  We are evaluating when the time is  
right to implement this.  We aren't doing this for Asterisk we are  
doing it for FreeSWITCH.


/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:

Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your  
implementation

is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as
the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it  
the

same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

Competition is a good thing.  Let's say you fail or your implementation 
is not as robust as the other project or visa versa.  Just as long as 
the hardware vendor is different, it should be a good thing.  If it the 
same hardware vendor, then maybe you two should work together.

Thanks,
Steve

Brian West wrote:
> I'm already doing that.
> 
> /b
> 
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Tim King wrote:
> 
>> I have started the open source project to get this going. I am working
>> directly with the manufacture to form agreements and gain access to  
>> the
>> hardware and source code for their drivers. The list price for the  
>> card is
>> $4,995.00 USD. I will keep everyone posted and will have site for
>> development and forums up soon.
>>
>> Thanks for the support
>>
>>
>> Tim King
>> CEO
>>
>> 7589 Cottonwood Drive   Suite C
>> Jenison, MI  49428
>>
>> Phone 616.301.3290Fax: 616.667.1104
>>
>> Website: http://www.compnetwork.net
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baji
>> Panchumarti
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:07 PM
>> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface
>>
>>   On 10/9/07, Brian West  wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
>>>
>>> [...]
>>  off-topic :
>>
>>  I saw Imagestream at the Ohio Linuxfest a weekend ago.
>>
>>  Also picked up a few literature bags by Digium  :-)
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

I'm already doing that.

/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Tim King wrote:

> I have started the open source project to get this going. I am working
> directly with the manufacture to form agreements and gain access to  
> the
> hardware and source code for their drivers. The list price for the  
> card is
> $4,995.00 USD. I will keep everyone posted and will have site for
> development and forums up soon.
>
> Thanks for the support
>
>
> Tim King
> CEO
>
> 7589 Cottonwood Drive   Suite C
> Jenison, MI  49428
>
> Phone 616.301.3290Fax: 616.667.1104
>
> Website: http://www.compnetwork.net
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baji
> Panchumarti
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:07 PM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface
>
>   On 10/9/07, Brian West  wrote:
>
>> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
>>
>> [...]
>
>  off-topic :
>
>  I saw Imagestream at the Ohio Linuxfest a weekend ago.
>
>  Also picked up a few literature bags by Digium  :-)
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Tim King]

I have started the open source project to get this going. I am working
directly with the manufacture to form agreements and gain access to the
hardware and source code for their drivers. The list price for the card is
$4,995.00 USD. I will keep everyone posted and will have site for
development and forums up soon.

Thanks for the support


Tim King
CEO

7589 Cottonwood Drive   Suite C
Jenison, MI  49428

Phone 616.301.3290Fax: 616.667.1104

Website: http://www.compnetwork.net



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baji
Panchumarti
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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

  On 10/9/07, Brian West  wrote:

> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
>
> [...]

 off-topic :

 I saw Imagestream at the Ohio Linuxfest a weekend ago.

 Also picked up a few literature bags by Digium  :-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Baji Panchumarti]

  On 10/9/07, Brian West  wrote:

> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
>
> [...]

 off-topic :

 I saw Imagestream at the Ohio Linuxfest a weekend ago.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

This looks very promising.  All eggs in one basket, but promising...

Any idea on price?

"The PCI 921-CDS utilizes the Mindspeed CX28500 chipset to provide 
support for the card's host PCI bus interface, which can burst data at 
speeds up to 780 Mbps, or 390 Mbps full duplex. The CX28500 also 
provides the card's DMA controller, HDLC controllers, and management 
interface. The CX28500 is connected to the PMC-Sierra PM8315, which 
provides the card's T1 framers and M13 multiplexer. The PM8315 is also 
connected to the Exar XRT73L00 T3 LIU, which supports the physical DS3 
line interface to the card."

Thanks,
Steve

Brian West wrote:
> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
> 
> This card can do it.  I have spoke with them about it and its very  
> capable of doing what is needed for a DS3 in a standard linux box.
> 
> /b
> 
> On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:14:23 Matt wrote:
>>> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly  
>>> are you
>>> hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a  
>>> DS3s worth
>>> of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?
>> Whatever gave you the notion that a modern PC can't handle 672  
>> simultaneous
>> calls?
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:14:23 Matt wrote:
>> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are you
>> hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth
>> of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?
> 
> Whatever gave you the notion that a modern PC can't handle 672 simultaneous 
> calls?
> 
> -A.
> 

A single core HPDL320 with core solo 3ghz would hit 60%-70% (which I 
felt comfortable with but did not want to go over) CPU in top 
terminating four PRIs with all channels in use.  The box did nothing but 
take the voice PRI and put on the LAN as ulaw, so no transcoding.

You would need a very beefy server, thats for sure.  I the board had no 
onboard processing or DSPs, you would probably need something 7x more 
powerful than I listed above.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI)]

Patrick wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:14 -0400, Matt wrote:
>> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are
>> you hoping to accomplish?
> 
> I can imagine it be used as a TDM-SIP gateway but if I needed such a box
> I'd rather go for a Lucent MaxTNT, Lucent APX8000 or a Cisco 5xxx or
> look at FreeSWITCH which by design seems more suitable for these kind of
> high performance applications.
> 
>> There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth of traffic...
>> therefore, what good would this do?
> 
> Why wouldn't today's powerful quadcore servers with Gigabit Ethernet
> interfaces not be able to handle less than 100Mbit/s synchronous
> traffic? Please enlighten me as I am no expert here.
> 
> Regards,
> Patrick


Perhaps it could also be used as a pure TDM switch with no VoIP calls 
involved?

Best regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Brian West]

http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html

This card can do it.  I have spoke with them about it and its very  
capable of doing what is needed for a DS3 in a standard linux box.

/b

On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:14:23 Matt wrote:
>> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly  
>> are you
>> hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a  
>> DS3s worth
>> of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?
>
> Whatever gave you the notion that a modern PC can't handle 672  
> simultaneous
> calls?
>
> -A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

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On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:14:23 Matt wrote:
> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are you
> hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth
> of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?

Whatever gave you the notion that a modern PC can't handle 672 simultaneous 
calls?

-A.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

I did not look at the specs of the card but if it has inboard DSPs, it 
may work just fine in a high end box.

Thanks,
Steve

Matt wrote:
> It's not the Ethernet interface that would be the issue.  The zaptel 
> framework wouldn't be able to handle it with the way it uses interrupts.
> 
> On 10/9/07, * Patrick* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:14 -0400, Matt wrote:
>  > Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are
>  > you hoping to accomplish?
> 
> I can imagine it be used as a TDM-SIP gateway but if I needed such a
> box
> I'd rather go for a Lucent MaxTNT, Lucent APX8000 or a Cisco 5xxx or
> look at FreeSWITCH which by design seems more suitable for these kind of
> high performance applications.
> 
>  > There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth of traffic...
>  > therefore, what good would this do?
> 
> Why wouldn't today's powerful quadcore servers with Gigabit Ethernet
> interfaces not be able to handle less than 100Mbit/s synchronous
> traffic? Please enlighten me as I am no expert here.
> 
> Regards,
> Patrick
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Matt]

It's not the Ethernet interface that would be the issue.  The zaptel
framework wouldn't be able to handle it with the way it uses interrupts.

On 10/9/07, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:14 -0400, Matt wrote:
> > Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are
> > you hoping to accomplish?
>
> I can imagine it be used as a TDM-SIP gateway but if I needed such a box
> I'd rather go for a Lucent MaxTNT, Lucent APX8000 or a Cisco 5xxx or
> look at FreeSWITCH which by design seems more suitable for these kind of
> high performance applications.
>
> > There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth of traffic...
> > therefore, what good would this do?
>
> Why wouldn't today's powerful quadcore servers with Gigabit Ethernet
> interfaces not be able to handle less than 100Mbit/s synchronous
> traffic? Please enlighten me as I am no expert here.
>
> Regards,
> Patrick
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Steve Totaro]

A few SGI boxen with Numalink could probably handle it just fine.

Thanks,
Steve

Matt wrote:
> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are 
> you hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a DS3s 
> worth of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?
> 
> On 10/9/07, *Tim King* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> If it hasn't already been done I am looking to put together a team
> to write drivers for this DS3 card to interface asterisk.
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
> 
> 
>  
> 
> The card itself seems reasonable and I believe we can make it work.
> As soon as I have positive feedback to begin the project I will put
> a server on the net with a card in it.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Let's make this happen.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *Tim King*
> 
> *CEO*
> 
> CNS_LOGO_Beveled 
> 
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> 
> Jenison, MI  49428
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Patrick]

On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:14 -0400, Matt wrote:
> Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are
> you hoping to accomplish?

I can imagine it be used as a TDM-SIP gateway but if I needed such a box
I'd rather go for a Lucent MaxTNT, Lucent APX8000 or a Cisco 5xxx or
look at FreeSWITCH which by design seems more suitable for these kind of
high performance applications.

> There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth of traffic...
> therefore, what good would this do?

Why wouldn't today's powerful quadcore servers with Gigabit Ethernet
interfaces not be able to handle less than 100Mbit/s synchronous
traffic? Please enlighten me as I am no expert here.

Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Matt]

Before you put any work into this... ask yourself... what exactly are you
hoping to accomplish?   There is no way one system can handle a DS3s worth
of traffic... therefore, what good would this do?

On 10/9/07, Tim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  If it hasn't already been done I am looking to put together a team to
> write drivers for this DS3 card to interface asterisk.
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> http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html
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> The card itself seems reasonable and I believe we can make it work. As
> soon as I have positive feedback to begin the project I will put a server on
> the net with a card in it.
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> Let's make this happen.
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> *Tim King*
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> *CEO*
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> 7589 Cottonwood Drive   Suite C
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[asterisk-users] DS3 Interface

[Tim King]

If it hasn't already been done I am looking to put together a team to write
drivers for this DS3 card to interface asterisk.

 

http://www.imagestream.com/PCI_921-CDS.html

 

The card itself seems reasonable and I believe we can make it work. As soon
as I have positive feedback to begin the project I will put a server on the
net with a card in it.

 

 

Let's make this happen.

 

 

 

Tim King

CEO

  CNS_LOGO_Beveled

7589 Cottonwood Drive   Suite C

Jenison, MI  49428

 

Phone 616.301.3290Fax: 616.667.1104

 

Website:   http://www.compnetwork.net

 

 

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