[asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Eve-Ellen Cole
I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB
memory, two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get a
Digium TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but I
am wondering if there is a better one to consider)

 

The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each
time a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the
student.  The email notification will provide a web link to direct the
student to the voice mail itself.

 

Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback you
are willing to provide.  Many thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Alexander Lopez
The 2 Port card may not provide the number of channels you may need to
do this. I would bump it up to a four port.

 

I would also look at more HD space. You are fine on RAM memory, if you
need to for budget constraints I would be OK with dropping the RAM and
upping the Hard Drive Space. 2-4 GB of ram is PLENTY...  

 

What are you interfacing with and how (RBS T1, PRI). How are you
planning on managing the user accounts?  Are you building a web
interface. One simple way although it would break the Directory
application is to create All the possible mailbox numbers and then
create aliases in your email program to route them.

 

IE

 

VMBox emailreal
email

12345   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Of you could build a Dialplan application that uses LDAP and query the
database.

 

I am not sure on your network setup so I can't really give you specifics
only hints...

 

Alex

 

 



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Subject: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

 

I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB
memory, two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get
a Digium TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but
I am wondering if there is a better one to consider)

 

The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each
time a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the
student.  The email notification will provide a web link to direct the
student to the voice mail itself.

 

Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback
you are willing to provide.  Many thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Arthur
i suggest a look at digium's hardware compatibility list on thier website.
i would also worry about concurrent calls  thus concurrent recordings, 48
with your actual card which i guess is acceptable load to your hardware but
i am not an expert in this.

recording to disk (even scsi ones) will make your server unstable when lots
of calls are being recorded, then your option is to record to RAM (or go for
OrecX). then empty RAM to disk when load is low since you've got plenty of
RAM.

gsm conversion will lower the size of wav recordings by 10.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eve-Ellen Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
 CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB memory,
 two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get a Digium
 TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but I am
 wondering if there is a better one to consider)



 The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each time
 a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the student.
 The email notification will provide a web link to direct the student to the
 voice mail itself.



 Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback you
 are willing to provide.  Many thanks!

I don't use Dells except in pure VoIP setups.  I found this link
http://www.gomiem.org/conferences/TC08_9_ip_telephony.pdf

I think the newer Digium cards play MUCH better with Dell now.

Take a look at CSID configuration 1.  It seems they use it as their
platform so I would take that as a good sign.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eve-Ellen Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
   I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
   CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB memory,
   two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get a Digium
   TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but I am
   wondering if there is a better one to consider)
  
  
  
   The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each time
   a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the student.
   The email notification will provide a web link to direct the student to the
   voice mail itself.
  
  
  
   Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback you
   are willing to provide.  Many thanks!

  I don't use Dells except in pure VoIP setups.  I found this link
  http://www.gomiem.org/conferences/TC08_9_ip_telephony.pdf

  I think the newer Digium cards play MUCH better with Dell now.

  Take a look at CSID configuration 1.  It seems they use it as their
  platform so I would take that as a good sign.

  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro


You asked this identical question a week or two ago.

 I have an Avaya Definity G3R.  Calls to students will be routed through the
 G3R, to the Asterisk system so the caller can leave a message.  I'm not sure
 how many channels I'll really need, but I expect no more than 23
 simultaneous calls.  In fact, maybe no more than 10 simultaneously.

I guess you bumped up the concurrent call number a bit or are just
planning for the future.

As far as the RAM disk or OrecX, you should not need it.  From
personal experience the I/O barrier is ~60-70 calls.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Eve-Ellen Cole
Steve,

You are correct.  I've asked this question before.  Now that my sysadmin
group has determined the server they would prefer to support, I wanted to
double check.  

We won't be relying heavily on the T1 card.  I will also be setting up
H.323 trunking to our Avaya Definity G3R.  Although there will be many
accounts on the system, we do not forsee many simultaneous calls, or much
use at all to tell the truth.  We'll be lucky if just 1% of the users
utilize the system.  In fact, there is a good chance the system will
become a test environment for other unified communications solutions ...
that's why I've upped the RAM.  From a budget standpoint, its easier to
get it now, rather than fight for it later.

I'm still toying with whether or not to go RAID 1 or RAID 5, but otherwise
I think I'm fairly confident with what we've come up with.

Thank you all for the input.  Much appreciated.

 - Eve Ellen


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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eve-Ellen Cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
   I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
   CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB
memory,
   two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get a
Digium
   TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but I am
   wondering if there is a better one to consider)
  
  
  
   The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.
Each time
   a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the
student.
   The email notification will provide a web link to direct the student
to the
   voice mail itself.
  
  
  
   Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback
you
   are willing to provide.  Many thanks!

  I don't use Dells except in pure VoIP setups.  I found this link
  http://www.gomiem.org/conferences/TC08_9_ip_telephony.pdf

  I think the newer Digium cards play MUCH better with Dell now.

  Take a look at CSID configuration 1.  It seems they use it as their
  platform so I would take that as a good sign.

  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro


You asked this identical question a week or two ago.

 I have an Avaya Definity G3R.  Calls to students will be routed through
the
 G3R, to the Asterisk system so the caller can leave a message.  I'm not
sure
 how many channels I'll really need, but I expect no more than 23
 simultaneous calls.  In fact, maybe no more than 10 simultaneously.

I guess you bumped up the concurrent call number a bit or are just
planning for the future.

As far as the RAM disk or OrecX, you should not need it.  From
personal experience the I/O barrier is ~60-70 calls.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Eve-Ellen Cole
Ah, managing user accounts.  That is going to be very challenging.  I
haven't looked at this too thoroughly yet, but I will need to very soon.
We have limited resources, so will be looking at a way to automate
anything and everything possible.  I'm open to suggestions.

In my initial test instance, I have installed ARI, FOP and FreePBX.  I
have run into permission issues that I need to troubleshoot though.  I've
also experienced problems getting anywhere with
http://www.littlejohnconsulting.com/.  It seems to be unavailable more
than available to date.

It also doesn't resolve the mass import issue I will need to get figured
out.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lopez
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:44 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

The 2 Port card may not provide the number of channels you may need to do
this. I would bump it up to a four port.

 

I would also look at more HD space. You are fine on RAM memory, if you
need to for budget constraints I would be OK with dropping the RAM and
upping the Hard Drive Space. 2-4 GB of ram is PLENTY.  

 

What are you interfacing with and how (RBS T1, PRI). How are you planning
on managing the user accounts?  Are you building a web interface. One
simple way although it would break the Directory application is to create
All the possible mailbox numbers and then create aliases in your email
program to route them.

 

IE

 

VMBox emailreal email

12345   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Of you could build a Dialplan application that uses LDAP and query the
database.

 

I am not sure on your network setup so I can't really give you specifics
only hints.

 

Alex

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cole
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:21 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

 

I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB
memory, two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get a
Digium TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but I
am wondering if there is a better one to consider)

 

The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each
time a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the
student.  The email notification will provide a web link to direct the
student to the voice mail itself.

 

Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback you
are willing to provide.  Many thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Steve Totaro
Eve-Ellen,

I hear you on the buying now rather than fighting later :)

Maybe LDAP can help with the import.  Anyways, there are pretty simple
ways around that providing you can export what you have as a CSV or
you could set something up with realtime (ughh, I hate realtime but it
may be of benefit in this situation).

It would seem that setup should be pretty static, no?  This is for dorms?

If you want a very clean, low profile, and simple GUI (not free though
very reasonably priced) check into Thirdlane's webmin module.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Eve-Ellen Cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Ah, managing user accounts.  That is going to be very challenging.  I
 haven't looked at this too thoroughly yet, but I will need to very soon.  We
 have limited resources, so will be looking at a way to automate anything and
 everything possible.  I'm open to suggestions.

  In my initial test instance, I have installed ARI, FOP and FreePBX.  I have
 run into permission issues that I need to troubleshoot though.  I've also
 experienced problems getting anywhere with
 http://www.littlejohnconsulting.com/.  It seems to be unavailable more than
 available to date.

  It also doesn't resolve the mass import issue I will need to get figured
 out.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander
 Lopez
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:44 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950


  The 2 Port card may not provide the number of channels you may need to do
 this. I would bump it up to a four port.



  I would also look at more HD space. You are fine on RAM memory, if you need
 to for budget constraints I would be OK with dropping the RAM and upping the
 Hard Drive Space. 2-4 GB of ram is PLENTY…



  What are you interfacing with and how (RBS T1, PRI). How are you planning
 on managing the user accounts?  Are you building a web interface. One simple
 way although it would break the Directory application is to create All the
 possible mailbox numbers and then create aliases in your email program to
 route them.



  IE



  VMBox emailreal email

  12345   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Of you could build a Dialplan application that uses LDAP and query the
 database.



  I am not sure on your network setup so I can't really give you specifics
 only hints…



  Alex





  

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  Subject: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950



  I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new
 CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB memory,
 two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get a Digium
 TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but I am
 wondering if there is a better one to consider)



  The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each time
 a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the student.
 The email notification will provide a web link to direct the student to the
 voice mail itself.



  Anything I need to consider changing?  I'm interested in any feedback you
 are willing to provide.  Many thanks!


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Re: [asterisk-users] Dell 1950

2008-04-28 Thread Darrick Hartman (lists)
Eve-Ellen Cole wrote:
 I am thinking of going with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 ||| for a new 
 CentOS/Asterisk set up.  It will have dual 2.33GHz processors, 16GB 
 memory, two 500GB hard drives (presumably mirrored).  I also plan to get 
 a Digium TE220B to go with it.  (a non-dell server is not an option, but 
 I am wondering if there is a better one to consider)
 
 The system will be a voice mail repository for 4-6,000 students.  Each 
 time a voice mail is left, an email notification will be sent to the 
 student.  The email notification will provide a web link to direct the 
 student to the voice mail itself.
 
  
 
 Anything I need to consider changing?  I’m interested in any feedback 
 you are willing to provide.  Many thanks!
 


If you're not restricted to 1U, I would strongly suggest getting more 
drives and doing a raid 10 array.  Even if you are restricted to 1U, you 
can do a raid 10 array in the 1950, but you'll have to pay for the 
hyper-expensive 2.5 drives.

Darrick
-- 
Darrick Hartman
DJH Solutions, LLC
http://www.djhsolutions.com

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