Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 03:37 -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote: Well, why Digium is still using this kind of power connector while all new machines does not come with these types? As I explained before, Digium recognizes that not all machines have a spare Molex power connector. For that reason, we sell an adapter that should help you out. Go to the following URL for more information: http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/analogpwr.php -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
At this stage, I've only seen one machine that didn't come with the old style power connectors. SATA power connectors may be a standard, but they haven't (yet?) supplanted the older power connectors. In fact, most power supplies I've bought recently have had more molex style connectors than SATA. bilal ghayyad wrote: Well, why Digium is still using this kind of power connector while all new machines does not come with these types? ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Well, why Digium is still using this kind of power connector while all new machines does not come with these types? Regards Bilal Bilal, I linked a store and product for you in the thread already. A simple google search will turn up hundred if not thousands of suppliers. Just google Sata to Molex power turns up a quarter million hits. Find a supplier you like, and purchase. http://www.google.com/search?q=sata+to+molex+power+adaptorie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a Thanks, Steve Totaro On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:59 AM, bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dears; Till that monment, I did not get my answer. What shall I do when the power supply in the PC does not have a NORMA power connector to use it for the DIGIUM card? The only available connectors are SATA power connector. So is there a convertor to convert from SATA to NORMAL? Or what should I do? Maybe I understood that I have to use extenal power supply to supply electrical for the card? Am correct? Regards Bilal -- On May 4, 2008 08:40:10 pm Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. Nothing wrong with that, it just adds more billable hours. :-) As long as it does. I don't know about you, but whenever a customer wants me to do work and does not want to follow my recommendations, I have the paper trail copied out in triplicate just to cover my ass. Sometimes they're right, but generally when they ask me to do something they are asking me because they are unable to do it themselves, so I am extra-cautious when they won't follow my advice. -A. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Well, why Digium is still using this kind of power connector while all new machines does not come with these types? Regards Bilal Bilal, I linked a store and product for you in the thread already. A simple google search will turn up hundred if not thousands of suppliers. Just google Sata to Molex power turns up a quarter million hits. Find a supplier you like, and purchase. http://www.google.com/search?q=sata+to+molex+power+adaptorie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a Thanks, Steve Totaro On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:59 AM, bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dears; Till that monment, I did not get my answer. What shall I do when the power supply in the PC does not have a NORMA power connector to use it for the DIGIUM card? The only available connectors are SATA power connector. So is there a convertor to convert from SATA to NORMAL? Or what should I do? Maybe I understood that I have to use extenal power supply to supply electrical for the card? Am correct? Regards Bilal -- On May 4, 2008 08:40:10 pm Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. Nothing wrong with that, it just adds more billable hours. :-) As long as it does. I don't know about you, but whenever a customer wants me to do work and does not want to follow my recommendations, I have the paper trail copied out in triplicate just to cover my ass. Sometimes they're right, but generally when they ask me to do something they are asking me because they are unable to do it themselves, so I am extra-cautious when they won't follow my advice. -A. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Sat, 17 May 2008, bilal ghayyad wrote: Well, why Digium is still using this kind of power connector while all new machines does not come with these types? The new machines that I buy come with legacy power connectors. The flash IDE drives I buy need legacy power connectors, and since convertors are trivially avalable why is it an issue? Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On May 17, 2008 06:59:43 am Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008, bilal ghayyad wrote: Well, why Digium is still using this kind of power connector while all new machines does not come with these types? The new machines that I buy come with legacy power connectors. The flash IDE drives I buy need legacy power connectors, and since convertors are trivially avalable why is it an issue? molex power connectors are not legacy or old style except when used in reference to SATA devices. Seeing as how Digium interface cards are not SATA devices, why would you expect them to be using a SATA connector? Its not Digiums fault that the PSU you bought doesn't include molex connectors. SATA uses a different power connector for a few reasons, but the biggest is that SATA supports hot-plugging (assuming your controller, drive, and OS support it), in order for hot-plug to work the drive needs a 3.3V voltage as well as 5V and 12V, molex only gives 5V and 12V. The actual physical connector that molex uses also does not lend itself very well to hot-plugging. SATA power connectors, while there is no real reason that non-SATA devices couldn't use them, they simply were designed for SATA specifically. Personally, I prefer molex connectors for most things simply because they are far more secure than SATA connectors (at least the ones i've used). -- Matt http://www.mattgwatson.ca ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 04:45:00PM -0400, Matt Watson wrote: well as 5V and 12V, molex only gives 5V and 12V. The actual physical connector that molex uses also does not lend itself very well to hot-plugging. IME, it doesn't lend itself very well to *cold*-plugging, either. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Dears; Till that monment, I did not get my answer. What shall I do when the power supply in the PC does not have a NORMA power connector to use it for the DIGIUM card? The only available connectors are SATA power connector. So is there a convertor to convert from SATA to NORMAL? Or what should I do? Maybe I understood that I have to use extenal power supply to supply electrical for the card? Am correct? Regards Bilal -- On May 4, 2008 08:40:10 pm Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. Nothing wrong with that, it just adds more billable hours. :-) As long as it does. I don't know about you, but whenever a customer wants me to do work and does not want to follow my recommendations, I have the paper trail copied out in triplicate just to cover my ass. Sometimes they're right, but generally when they ask me to do something they are asking me because they are unable to do it themselves, so I am extra-cautious when they won't follow my advice. -A. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Bilal, I linked a store and product for you in the thread already. A simple google search will turn up hundred if not thousands of suppliers. Just google Sata to Molex power turns up a quarter million hits. Find a supplier you like, and purchase. http://www.google.com/search?q=sata+to+molex+power+adaptorie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a Thanks, Steve Totaro On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:59 AM, bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dears; Till that monment, I did not get my answer. What shall I do when the power supply in the PC does not have a NORMA power connector to use it for the DIGIUM card? The only available connectors are SATA power connector. So is there a convertor to convert from SATA to NORMAL? Or what should I do? Maybe I understood that I have to use extenal power supply to supply electrical for the card? Am correct? Regards Bilal -- On May 4, 2008 08:40:10 pm Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. Nothing wrong with that, it just adds more billable hours. :-) As long as it does. I don't know about you, but whenever a customer wants me to do work and does not want to follow my recommendations, I have the paper trail copied out in triplicate just to cover my ass. Sometimes they're right, but generally when they ask me to do something they are asking me because they are unable to do it themselves, so I am extra-cautious when they won't follow my advice. -A. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 04:59:44AM -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote: Till that monment, I did not get my answer. What shall I do when the power supply in the PC does not have a NORMA power connector to use it for the DIGIUM card? The only available connectors are SATA power connector. So is there a convertor to convert from SATA to NORMAL? Or what should I do? You want the backwards of this adaptor: http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/SearchDetail.asp?productID=8203 And I thought Cyberguys had it, but I can't find it. I *think* this is the adaptor you're looking for: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200150 but since I don't have the board to look at the connector, you'll have to tell us. *Do* tell us, and please change the subject link to begin in SOLVED if that adaptor looks like it will work, won't you? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 08:13:57AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: Just google Sata to Molex power turns up a quarter million hits. Find a supplier you like, and purchase. Note, though, Steve, that the lions share of those are male Molex to SATA -- they're for putting SATA drives in machines whose power supplies don't have the plug. Unless I misunderstood the situation badly, he needs the *opposite* cable, with a female Molex, which is substantially harder to come by. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Steve Totaro wrote: Actually I can see exactly where this may be useful. I can think of at least one customer off the top of my head who has insisted on having a TDM2400 installed in a Dell server that we know can't provide enough power to the card where it's being used as a collection of FXS ports. Of course we've advised them of the limitation, but they completely ignored us. :) Something like this would have allowed us to provide a solution to a problem that is likely to come back and bite us in the future. I see your point in that circumstance, but I would have employed a channel bank, totally avoiding your inevitable future bite. Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On May 4, 2008 07:24:45 pm Rob Hillis wrote: Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. Nothing wrong with that, it just adds more billable hours. :-) -A. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 01:42:22PM +1000, Rob Hillis wrote: Actually I can see exactly where this may be useful. I can think of at least one customer off the top of my head who has insisted on having a TDM2400 installed in a Dell server that we know can't provide enough power to the card where it's being used as a collection of FXS ports. Of course we've advised them of the limitation, but they completely ignored us. :) Something like this would have allowed us to provide a solution to a problem that is likely to come back and bite us in the future. Advise the customer in writing; make them sign it. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
How can you tell if a server will have enough power for such a card? Most servers have power to spare. on Sunday 05/04/2008 Jay R. Ashworth([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 01:42:22PM +1000, Rob Hillis wrote: Actually I can see exactly where this may be useful. I can think of at least one customer off the top of my head who has insisted on having a TDM2400 installed in a Dell server that we know can't provide enough power to the card where it's being used as a collection of FXS ports. Of course we've advised them of the limitation, but they completely ignored us. :) Something like this would have allowed us to provide a solution to a problem that is likely to come back and bite us in the future. Advise the customer in writing; make them sign it. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On May 4, 2008 08:40:10 pm Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Customer's insistence. We didn't have a choice, really. Nothing wrong with that, it just adds more billable hours. :-) As long as it does. I don't know about you, but whenever a customer wants me to do work and does not want to follow my recommendations, I have the paper trail copied out in triplicate just to cover my ass. Sometimes they're right, but generally when they ask me to do something they are asking me because they are unable to do it themselves, so I am extra-cautious when they won't follow my advice. -A. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Steve Totaro wrote: Man that is an ugly hack, but I guess it may be required in some rare situation, I guess if the power supply of the server is already nearing it's rating. I would still go with a sata to molex connector and even a Y molex splitter if at all possible. Actually I can see exactly where this may be useful. I can think of at least one customer off the top of my head who has insisted on having a TDM2400 installed in a Dell server that we /know/ can't provide enough power to the card where it's being used as a collection of FXS ports. Of course we've advised them of the limitation, but they completely ignored us. :) Something like this would have allowed us to provide a solution to a problem that is likely to come back and bite us in the future. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Hi List; As you know that Digium card are using NORMAL power connector, and all new PC's are coming with SATA power connector, so any advise how to convert from SATA to NORMAL connector? Any help? Regards Bilal Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Bilal, i guess this is the wront place for asking System Hardware related questions, On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 03:07 -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote: Hi List; As you know that Digium card are using NORMAL power connector, and all new PC's are coming with SATA power connector, so any advise how to convert from SATA to NORMAL connector? Any help? Regards Bilal Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
Bilal, What you want is a sata to molex power connector. They do exist and should be no problem to obtain. Here is an example http://www.cooldrives.com/sa15poto4moa.html (second hit from google). Thanks, Steve Totaro On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Ghulam Mustafa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bilal, i guess this is the wront place for asking System Hardware related questions, On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 03:07 -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote: Hi List; As you know that Digium card are using NORMAL power connector, and all new PC's are coming with SATA power connector, so any advise how to convert from SATA to NORMAL connector? Any help? Regards Bilal Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 03:07 -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote: As you know that Digium card are using NORMAL power connector, and all new PC's are coming with SATA power connector, so any advise how to convert from SATA to NORMAL connector? Digium builds a power adapter for situations like that. See http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/analogpwr.php for more information. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium Card: Power Connector, from SATA to NORMAL
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 03:07 -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote: As you know that Digium card are using NORMAL power connector, and all new PC's are coming with SATA power connector, so any advise how to convert from SATA to NORMAL connector? Digium builds a power adapter for situations like that. See http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/analogpwr.php for more information. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. Man that is an ugly hack, but I guess it may be required in some rare situation, I guess if the power supply of the server is already nearing it's rating. I would still go with a sata to molex connector and even a Y molex splitter if at all possible. Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
