Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
This is the part where I say DUH!!! I don't know why I wasn't thinking of that. Thanks for the information and the brain jogging... Maybe I blocked it from my subconscious because I knew it would make the layout more complicated, complex, and costly than the current. I wish I could find something that would avoid the need to put more than just a network switch and an UPS in every building. As it stands now, in a number of buildings I'm only going to need two or three analog lines. I suppose I could go the ATA route, but I wanted to avoid the extra smattering of boxes I'll have to maintain. I could keep my existing PBX and use it for analog ports only, but where's the fun in that. Thanks Again, Jason On 3/2/2012 11:19 AM, John Novack wrote: T1's and channel banks in each building? The cost of a 24 port board vs a T1 and channel bank works out in favor of the channel bank Multiple Asterisk boxes? In the Telecom world, long line adapters exist to extend loops John Novack aster...@ihearbanjos.com wrote: Thanks for the response. In lieu of that, is there any hardware anyone could recommend or is aware of that could meet the need? Thanks. On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between multiple buildings in a campus environment. The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same notice. Should it? Yes. All of Digium's FXS modules are designed for short-haul, inside wiring applications. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com& www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
This is the part where I say DUH!!! I don't know why I wasn't thinking of that. Thanks for the information and the brain jogging... Maybe I blocked it from my subconscious because I knew it would make the layout more complicated, complex, and costly than the current. I wish I could find something that would avoid the need to put more than just a network switch and an UPS in every building. As it stands now, in a number of buildings I'm only going to need two or three analog lines. I suppose I could go the ATA route, but I wanted to avoid the extra smattering of boxes I'll have to maintain. I could keep my existing PBX and use it for analog ports only, but where's the fun in that. Thanks Again, Jason On 3/2/2012 11:19 AM, John Novack wrote: T1's and channel banks in each building? The cost of a 24 port board vs a T1 and channel bank works out in favor of the channel bank Multiple Asterisk boxes? In the Telecom world, long line adapters exist to extend loops John Novack aster...@ihearbanjos.com wrote: Thanks for the response. In lieu of that, is there any hardware anyone could recommend or is aware of that could meet the need? Thanks. On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between multiple buildings in a campus environment. The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same notice. Should it? Yes. All of Digium's FXS modules are designed for short-haul, inside wiring applications. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com& www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
T1's and channel banks in each building? The cost of a 24 port board vs a T1 and channel bank works out in favor of the channel bank Multiple Asterisk boxes? In the Telecom world, long line adapters exist to extend loops John Novack aster...@ihearbanjos.com wrote: Thanks for the response. In lieu of that, is there any hardware anyone could recommend or is aware of that could meet the need? Thanks. On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between multiple buildings in a campus environment. The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same notice. Should it? Yes. All of Digium's FXS modules are designed for short-haul, inside wiring applications. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com& www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
Thanks for the info... The box looks very interesting. It looks like I'd still void a warranty if I used it though. :-) I'm OK with voiding warranties and pushing limits, but I wonder if anyone else has tried it an what the outcome was. I also wonder if there's something out there from a different manufacturer that is designed spcifically to support my requirements. Thanks Again. > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 05:35:34PM -0700, Nunya Biznatch wrote: >> Howdy All, >> >> I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone >> switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between >> multiple buildings in a campus environment. >> >> The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go >> beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the >> building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same >> notice. Should it? >> >> My potential application will be pushing all of 1500 feet and maybe a >> teeny bit more. Analog lines will be bundled into PE-89 type >> direct-burial rated cable in capacities ranging from 100-pair to >> 500-pair. All cable pairs are 24AWG. All cable is privately owned by the >> organization. All cable is professionally terminated on each end to >> grounded building entrance protection with lightning blocks / surge >> protection. This infrastructure has been in place and working on an >> existing "old school" digital switch with port cards that don't have >> lightning or surge suppression built in, just like the Digium cards. >> >> Has anyone run a similar configuration and can speak for or against such >> an idear? > > If you must do this, Mike Sandman (and probably others) has a line of > loop extenders. I've used his stuff before to keep old POTS stuff > running. > > http://www.sandman.com/longloop.html > > These devices may also give you a little more lightning protection than > you already have, but I wouldn't count on it. > > -- > Barry > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
Thanks for the response. In lieu of that, is there any hardware anyone could recommend or is aware of that could meet the need? Thanks. > On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: >> Howdy All, >> >> I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone >> switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between >> multiple buildings in a campus environment. >> >> The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go >> beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the >> building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same >> notice. Should it? > > Yes. All of Digium's FXS modules are designed for short-haul, inside > wiring applications. > > -- > Kevin P. Fleming > Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies > Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA > Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 05:35:34PM -0700, Nunya Biznatch wrote: > Howdy All, > > I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone > switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between > multiple buildings in a campus environment. > > The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go > beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the > building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same > notice. Should it? > > My potential application will be pushing all of 1500 feet and maybe a > teeny bit more. Analog lines will be bundled into PE-89 type > direct-burial rated cable in capacities ranging from 100-pair to > 500-pair. All cable pairs are 24AWG. All cable is privately owned by the > organization. All cable is professionally terminated on each end to > grounded building entrance protection with lightning blocks / surge > protection. This infrastructure has been in place and working on an > existing "old school" digital switch with port cards that don't have > lightning or surge suppression built in, just like the Digium cards. > > Has anyone run a similar configuration and can speak for or against such > an idear? If you must do this, Mike Sandman (and probably others) has a line of loop extenders. I've used his stuff before to keep old POTS stuff running. http://www.sandman.com/longloop.html These devices may also give you a little more lightning protection than you already have, but I wouldn't count on it. -- Barry -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between multiple buildings in a campus environment. The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same notice. Should it? Yes. All of Digium's FXS modules are designed for short-haul, inside wiring applications. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Digium FXS specifications and limits Question
Howdy All, I'm considering Asterisk / Digium as a replacement to my existing phone switch. I need to continue to be able to push analog lines between multiple buildings in a campus environment. The Digium Analog 410 Card manual states it's not recommended to go beyond 1500 feet distance for an FXS card, and no line should leave the building or be bundled. The 2400 Series Manual does not have this same notice. Should it? My potential application will be pushing all of 1500 feet and maybe a teeny bit more. Analog lines will be bundled into PE-89 type direct-burial rated cable in capacities ranging from 100-pair to 500-pair. All cable pairs are 24AWG. All cable is privately owned by the organization. All cable is professionally terminated on each end to grounded building entrance protection with lightning blocks / surge protection. This infrastructure has been in place and working on an existing "old school" digital switch with port cards that don't have lightning or surge suppression built in, just like the Digium cards. Has anyone run a similar configuration and can speak for or against such an idear? Thanks for the help and input, Jason -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
