Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-23 Thread Zoa

You can find it here:

http://www.zoiper.com/downloads/free/linux/zoiper201-linux.tar.gz

Note that the linux version does not support TLS and SRTP yet.

* Instructions: *

1) Download zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
2) Extract Zoiper. If you don't use a GUI application for archive
processing, here is the command line:

tar zxf zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
./zoiper

3) Start Zoiper.

*ZoIPer depends on ALSA library, so it* **must** *be installed!

*

Zoa

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 zoa wrote:
 Have you tried our Zoiper softphone yet (www.zoiper.com) - new 
 version scheduled for in a couple of days ? If so, can you send me 
 any remarks of list so that we can keep those things in mind for 
 future versions ?
 Do you know where I can get it as an rpm to install on Centos 5 with 
 Gnome?

 I do not have the time resources to do compiles.

 I am really a security protocol researcher and would be very 
 interested in seeing what you have done for SIP TLS and SRTP. But for 
 the later, I am all Linux. The one XP system is a corp box that I 
 cannot add any software too.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-23 Thread Simon Elliston Ball
Zoiper is pretty impressive, it's a simple, neat little client.

The one problem I have with it is the keyboard. I've had problems  
trying to use the keyboard to send DTMF on the current call. The left  
hand popout keypad is also a little small for my users' taste.

It would be nice to have a keyboard hang-up, something like ESC, ditto  
for things like cancel buttons around the app.

I really like the fact it does both SIP and IAX.

Onto sillier issues: the icon is nice, but it would be great to have  
proper gamma anti-aliasing on the mac one.


Just my .02 on the free mac os version, I might have to check out the  
biz edition too. It's all looking good. Good luck with the next release!

Simon

Simon Elliston Ball
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On 23 Jan 2008, at 08:35, Zoa wrote:


 You can find it here:

 http://www.zoiper.com/downloads/free/linux/zoiper201-linux.tar.gz

 Note that the linux version does not support TLS and SRTP yet.

 * Instructions: *

 1) Download zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
 2) Extract Zoiper. If you don't use a GUI application for archive
 processing, here is the command line:

 tar zxf zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
 ./zoiper

 3) Start Zoiper.

 *ZoIPer depends on ALSA library, so it* **must** *be installed!

 *

 Zoa

 Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 zoa wrote:
 Have you tried our Zoiper softphone yet (www.zoiper.com) - new
 version scheduled for in a couple of days ? If so, can you send me
 any remarks of list so that we can keep those things in mind for
 future versions ?
 Do you know where I can get it as an rpm to install on Centos 5 with
 Gnome?

 I do not have the time resources to do compiles.

 I am really a security protocol researcher and would be very
 interested in seeing what you have done for SIP TLS and SRTP. But for
 the later, I am all Linux. The one XP system is a corp box that I
 cannot add any software too.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-23 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Zoa wrote:


 You can find it here:

 http://www.zoiper.com/downloads/free/linux/zoiper201-linux.tar.gz

 Note that the linux version does not support TLS and SRTP yet.

 * Instructions: *

 1) Download zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
 2) Extract Zoiper. If you don't use a GUI application for archive
 processing, here is the command line:

 tar zxf zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
 ./zoiper

 3) Start Zoiper.

I liked Zoiper when it was idefisk however I'm very irritated that they 
changed the account limit to 2 in Zoiper after it was seemingly unlimited 
in idefisk, so guess what I stick with...

Gordon


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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-23 Thread Christian Ejlertsen
Ok good piece software easy on the eyes as they say and I have to say this
before I start listing a lot of things that I would love to see, for it to
be usable as a good high performance phone.

Working with industrial pc switchboards and soft phones of various vendors
for some years now, and it all boils down to. How much functionality you can
boil into the keyboard.

No mouse action should be needed to search a number add an F-key for it.
No mouse action should be needed to dial or transfer a number.
No mouse action should be needed unless absolutely unavoidable.

A_PARTY = caller
B_PARTY = operator / called person
C_PARTY = number to transferred to

STATES:

Example to keep it within the numeric key-pad when you receive a call and
transfer it.

STEP 1
A call is presented.

LINE_STATE: Ringing
TRANSFER_STATE: inactive
TALKING_TO_STATE:   inactive

STEP 2

Press numeric enter to pick up call.

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: inactive
TALKING_TO_STATE:   A_PARTY

STEP 3

Transfer the call
Scenario 1:
Search out the number in the phonenbook by pressing ex: F10, while talking
to the caller, the phone book appears search by name, number or whatever is
available and mark the number with arrow keys and dial with NUM-enter.

Scenario 2
Press enter a new dial box appears. Type in the number to call. Press enter.

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: CALLING_C_PARTY
TALKING_TO_STATE:   DIALBACKTONE


STEP 4

The person transferring the call can now make a choice either to do a
attended transfer or a blind transfer.

Scenario Blind transfer:
Simply pressing NUM-enter should do a blind transfer, and the call handling
is done and all states are reset, C_PARTY becomes the B_PARTY and so on. The
phone is ready for a new call.

LINE_STATE: inactive
TRANSFER_STATE: inactive
TALKING_TO_STATE:   inactive

Scenario: Attended transfer:
The person transferring the call can talk to the C_PARTY

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: CONNECTED_C_PARTY
TALKING_TO_STATE:   C_PARTY

Should the operator wish for switching back do the previous call that
currently placed on hold it could be done by pressing the NUM+ key placing
the C_PARTY on hold and reconnecting the A_PARTY

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: CONNECTED_C_PARTY
TALKING_TO_STATE:   A_PARTY

Switch back by NUM+

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: CONNECTED_C_PARTY
TALKING_TO_STATE:   C_PARTY

Connect the call by NUM-enter at any point talking to either the A_PARTY or
C_PARTY.

The call handling is done and all states are reset, C_PARTY becomes the
B_PARTY and so on. The phone is ready for a new call.

LINE_STATE: inactive
TRANSFER_STATE: inactive
TALKING_TO_STATE:   inactive

Scenario: disconnect the party you are talking to
Press NUM-
If the states are as follows.

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: CONNECTED_C_PARTY
TALKING_TO_STATE:   C_PARTY

The C_PARTY would be disconnected and the states would go to.

LINE_STATE: CONNECTED_A_PARTY
TRANSFER_STATE: inactive
TALKING_TO_STATE:   A_PARTY

And the here we go again with a new transfer or a goodbye and hang up with
NUM-.

Some side notes:
The calling transfer functions are already in the phone alle that needs to
be done is associate the functions to the states and numeric keys.
The features could be activated by putting the phone in operator mode, if
this was the case you could turn of the DTMF and just start typing the new
number and hit NUM-enter twice to transfer the call fast. 1 enter to dial
number the other to transfer. DTMF could be turned of since the operator
rarely calls any ivr, that needs a DTMF response, if so you could leave dtmf
open on the QWERTY number keys HEX 30 31 33 34 so on.

A tcp port on the phone that allowed for picking up calls and hanging up
calls, and perhaps being able to read the number status would make is
possible for people write some very nice callcenter agent software for this
phone, without having to worry about the functionality of a phone in their
agent software.

These things might be on the table already if so happy days and then I can't
wait to see the product then.

Shw that was a little longer than expected. Just my way to keep it
simple :), but I hope this could the first really good sip phone with
switchboard properties out there.

Regards 
Christian Ejlertsen



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Elliston Ball
 Sent: 23. januar 2008 13:56
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended
 transfer
 
 Zoiper is pretty impressive, it's a simple, neat little client.
 
 The one problem I have with it is the keyboard. I've had problems
 trying to use the keyboard to send DTMF on the current call. The left
 hand popout keypad is also a little small for my users' taste

Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-23 Thread Zoa
 the functionality of a phone in their
 agent software.

 These things might be on the table already if so happy days and then I can't
 wait to see the product then.

 Shw that was a little longer than expected. Just my way to keep it
 simple :), but I hope this could the first really good sip phone with
 switchboard properties out there.

 Regards 
 Christian Ejlertsen



   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Elliston Ball
 Sent: 23. januar 2008 13:56
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended
 transfer

 Zoiper is pretty impressive, it's a simple, neat little client.

 The one problem I have with it is the keyboard. I've had problems
 trying to use the keyboard to send DTMF on the current call. The left
 hand popout keypad is also a little small for my users' taste.

 It would be nice to have a keyboard hang-up, something like ESC, ditto
 for things like cancel buttons around the app.

 I really like the fact it does both SIP and IAX.

 Onto sillier issues: the icon is nice, but it would be great to have
 proper gamma anti-aliasing on the mac one.


 Just my .02 on the free mac os version, I might have to check out the
 biz edition too. It's all looking good. Good luck with the next release!

 Simon

 Simon Elliston Ball
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 On 23 Jan 2008, at 08:35, Zoa wrote:

 
 You can find it here:

 http://www.zoiper.com/downloads/free/linux/zoiper201-linux.tar.gz

 Note that the linux version does not support TLS and SRTP yet.

 * Instructions: *

 1) Download zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
 2) Extract Zoiper. If you don't use a GUI application for archive
 processing, here is the command line:

 tar zxf zoiper201-linux.tar.gz
 ./zoiper

 3) Start Zoiper.

 *ZoIPer depends on ALSA library, so it* **must** *be installed!

 *

 Zoa

 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
   
 zoa wrote:
 
 Have you tried our Zoiper softphone yet (www.zoiper.com) - new
 version scheduled for in a couple of days ? If so, can you send me
 any remarks of list so that we can keep those things in mind for
 future versions ?
   
 Do you know where I can get it as an rpm to install on Centos 5 with
 Gnome?

 I do not have the time resources to do compiles.

 I am really a security protocol researcher and would be very
 interested in seeing what you have done for SIP TLS and SRTP. But for
 the later, I am all Linux. The one XP system is a corp box that I
 cannot add any software too.
 

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[asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-22 Thread Andre Herrlich
Hello,

any one advise a good, strong and free softphone that can work with SIP 
or/and IAX lines and supports attended transfer ?

Thanks for help.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards

André Herrlich
IT-Operator / Developer
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-22 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Andre Herrlich wrote:

 any one advise a good, strong and free softphone that can work with SIP 
 or/and IAX lines and supports attended transfer ?

IMHO there are no good softphones - at least not for
Mac OS X and I think that is true for Linux as well.
They're either not stable or their interface is unusable.

Regards,
  Philipp Kempgen

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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-22 Thread zoa

Hello,

Have you tried our Zoiper softphone yet (www.zoiper.com) - new version 
scheduled for in a couple of days ? If so, can you send me any remarks 
of list so that we can keep those things in mind for future versions ?

Greetings,

Joachim


Philipp Kempgen wrote:
 Andre Herrlich wrote:

   
 any one advise a good, strong and free softphone that can work with SIP 
 or/and IAX lines and supports attended transfer ?
 

 IMHO there are no good softphones - at least not for
 Mac OS X and I think that is true for Linux as well.
 They're either not stable or their interface is unusable.

 Regards,
   Philipp Kempgen

   


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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-22 Thread Andres Paglayan

On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Philipp Kempgen wrote:

 Andre Herrlich wrote:

 any one advise a good, strong and free softphone that can work  
 with SIP
 or/and IAX lines and supports attended transfer ?

 IMHO there are no good softphones - at least not for
 Mac OS X and I think that is true for Linux as well.
 They're either not stable or their interface is unusable.

I've been happy with both, zoiper and x-lite at a osx,
(...may be I have a low threshold for hapiness?)


 Regards,
   Philipp Kempgen

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 Let's use IT to solve problems and not to create new ones.
   Asterisk? - http://www.das-asterisk-buch.de

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Re: [asterisk-users] Free IAX / SIP Softphone with attended transfer

2008-01-22 Thread Vieri

--- zoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 Have you tried our Zoiper softphone yet
 (www.zoiper.com) - new version 
 scheduled for in a couple of days ? If so, can you
 send me any remarks 
 of list so that we can keep those things in mind for
 future versions ?

Attended transfer is not available in the free version
and that's what the OP is looking for.

I've been using SJPhone (v. 1.60.289a , not the newer
one) and it has been working just fine (supports
attended transfers). It's free software but it's
development seems to have come to a stop.

I was hoping to move to Ekiga but haven't had time to
test it yet.



  

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