Re: [asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

2008-08-25 Thread Gavin Henry
 Or provide both solutions - let the offices call each other via VoIP, but
 if too laggy, fall-back to VoIP - PSTN... (- VoIP)

How can you test for this precall?

Cheers.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

2008-08-24 Thread Gavin Henry
Thanks all for your suggestions.

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[asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

2008-08-23 Thread Gavin Henry
Dear All,

What setup would you recommend for making VoIP calls whilst bringing
latency down between offices at:

* Edinburgh
* Kuala Lumpur
* Singapore
* Tokyo
* Seoul
* Beijing
* San Francisco

Some of the Asia offices are  300ms some  200ms.

Any advice greatly apreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

2008-08-23 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Gavin Henry wrote:

 Dear All,

 What setup would you recommend for making VoIP calls whilst bringing
 latency down between offices at:

 * Edinburgh
 * Kuala Lumpur
 * Singapore
 * Tokyo
 * Seoul
 * Beijing
 * San Francisco

 Some of the Asia offices are  300ms some  200ms.

 Any advice greatly apreciated.

Probably not the right answer, but ... Find a local ITSP in each country 
and place all your outgoing calls via them and let them deal with it via 
the PSTN.

Mayby not in the true spirit of VoIP, and not free either, but if it works 
and you get some good rates, then it might well be worth it.

Or provide both solutions - let the offices call each other via VoIP, but 
if too laggy, fall-back to VoIP - PSTN... (- VoIP)

You'll be at the mercy of your local Internet providers and usually, 
there's not a lot you can do to influence traffic routing - other than 
pick another ISP - maybe you can find out which ISPs use cable/fibre and 
which use satellite connections and favour the wired ones...

But if you want to keep it VoIP, then what I'd do is get access to a PC in 
each location and start running traceroutes (use 'mtr' if you can) and 
work out the best paths - you might find that there are better ways then 
simply providing 6 IAX trunks at each location - eg. you might find it 
better to route calls from SF to Seoul via the Tokyo office (ie. use 
canreinvite=no to force the data path if using SIP or notransfer=yes in 
IAX with appropriate dial-rules) if SF to Tokyo to Seoul goes via cable, 
but SF to Seoul goes via satellite...

So logon to those 7 asterisk boxes and run 6 mtr's from each to each other 
site - leave them going for an hour, then analyse the results. (Good 
luck!)

However, you'll still be at the mercy of the ISPs who might change their 
routing on a day to day basis, depending on what their influences are...

But at the end of the day ye canny change the laws o' physics!

Gordon
(Scottish, so fully licensed to utter that phrase ;-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

2008-08-23 Thread Tom Moore
I agree.
You will probably get good ping times between your sites in Asia, but if
your thinking about a back hall back to the states this is where your going
to have the latency issues crop up.
 
Tommy

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Gavin Henry wrote:

 Dear All,

 What setup would you recommend for making VoIP calls whilst bringing
 latency down between offices at:

 * Edinburgh
 * Kuala Lumpur
 * Singapore
 * Tokyo
 * Seoul
 * Beijing
 * San Francisco

 Some of the Asia offices are  300ms some  200ms.

 Any advice greatly apreciated.

Probably not the right answer, but ... Find a local ITSP in each country 
and place all your outgoing calls via them and let them deal with it via 
the PSTN.

Mayby not in the true spirit of VoIP, and not free either, but if it works 
and you get some good rates, then it might well be worth it.

Or provide both solutions - let the offices call each other via VoIP, but 
if too laggy, fall-back to VoIP - PSTN... (- VoIP)

You'll be at the mercy of your local Internet providers and usually, 
there's not a lot you can do to influence traffic routing - other than 
pick another ISP - maybe you can find out which ISPs use cable/fibre and 
which use satellite connections and favour the wired ones...

But if you want to keep it VoIP, then what I'd do is get access to a PC in 
each location and start running traceroutes (use 'mtr' if you can) and 
work out the best paths - you might find that there are better ways then 
simply providing 6 IAX trunks at each location - eg. you might find it 
better to route calls from SF to Seoul via the Tokyo office (ie. use 
canreinvite=no to force the data path if using SIP or notransfer=yes in 
IAX with appropriate dial-rules) if SF to Tokyo to Seoul goes via cable, 
but SF to Seoul goes via satellite...

So logon to those 7 asterisk boxes and run 6 mtr's from each to each other 
site - leave them going for an hour, then analyse the results. (Good 
luck!)

However, you'll still be at the mercy of the ISPs who might change their 
routing on a day to day basis, depending on what their influences are...

But at the end of the day ye canny change the laws o' physics!

Gordon
(Scottish, so fully licensed to utter that phrase ;-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Global VoIP Calls?

2008-08-23 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday 23 August 2008 03:56:15 am Gavin Henry wrote:
 What setup would you recommend for making VoIP calls whilst bringing
 latency down between offices at:

 * Edinburgh
 * Kuala Lumpur
 * Singapore
 * Tokyo
 * Seoul
 * Beijing
 * San Francisco

 Some of the Asia offices are  300ms some  200ms.

Are the calls to be within company offices, or E.164 numbers?

Either way, you could set up DUNDi nodes at each location.  Have primary 
peering routes between Edinburgh, San Francisco and Tokyo (or whichever is 
your least latent Asian peer), for example. Then peer the Asian peers with 
Tokyo.

DUNDi caching will reduce route lookup times.
-- 
Anthony -  http://messinet.com - http://messinet.com/~amessina/gallery
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