Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-23 Thread Mikel Lindsaar
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Yehavi Bourvine  wrote:

> We have one 7912 which we bought for evaluation. The main drawback is that
> it has hands free speaker but no microphone.
>

That's true. But we will be getting higher models for the speaker function.

Did you find or know of a way to do paging with the Cisco 7912G ?

Looking around on Google didn't come up with much.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-23 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
 We have one 7912 which we bought for evaluation. The main drawback is that
it has hands free speaker but no microphone.

__Yehavi:

2008/12/23 Mikel Lindsaar 

> Thanks all for your replies.
> I have an aastra 9133i here for testing and am getting a polycom 320 to try
> out.
>
> But today, I got my hands on an older Cisco 7912G with SIP software
> installed.  It connected fine to the Asterisk box, works with the PoE stuff
> I have, sounds good and doesn't seem to have any problems.  Best all, I can
> buy "near new" for about $60 each in Australian dollars (thats about 45USD
> with the Aussie dollar being what it is :)
>
> The handsets look OK, they are nice and solid feeling and very easy to use
> / not complex.
>
> Any reason not to use the 7912G ?  Seems with the SIP image they work just
> dandy...
>
>
> Mikel
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-23 Thread Mikel Lindsaar
Thanks all for your replies.
I have an aastra 9133i here for testing and am getting a polycom 320 to try
out.

But today, I got my hands on an older Cisco 7912G with SIP software
installed.  It connected fine to the Asterisk box, works with the PoE stuff
I have, sounds good and doesn't seem to have any problems.  Best all, I can
buy "near new" for about $60 each in Australian dollars (thats about 45USD
with the Aussie dollar being what it is :)

The handsets look OK, they are nice and solid feeling and very easy to use /
not complex.

Any reason not to use the 7912G ?  Seems with the SIP image they work just
dandy...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Yehavi Bourvine
 wrote:
> I have one ST2030 bought for testing. Indeed it has a very intuitive user's
> interface, bue I've found two drawbacks:
>
> Its sound quality has some place to be improved...
> It has no RPID support (displaying the name of the called party).
>
> If these two issues are fixed, then it might be the better choice
> for cheaper price.
>
>   __Yehavi:
>
> 2008/12/21 Olivier 
>>
>> I don't know if Thomson ST2030 SIP phones are distributed where you live
>> but those have the best feature set-price ratio.
>> They integrate smoothly with Asterisk (one touch pickup, BLF, MWI, ...)
>> with up to 5 simultaneous calls.
>>
>> Here in France, those are selected everywhere ...
>>
>> I would recommend them without any hesitation.
>>
>> ___


While feeling cheap, the BT101 seemed reasonable during testinng.  It
was the day to day customer issues that made me go back and replace
with Polycom for hardware cost only, no labor.

I guess you have to define "testing".

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-23 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
I'll have to run some TCPDUMP to see what happens. I'll also try this with
OpenSIPS where there is more flexbility with the header fields.

   Thanks, __Yehavi:

 2008/12/23 Olivier 

>
>
> 2008/12/23 Yehavi Bourvine 
>
>>  I have one ST2030 bought for testing. Indeed it has a very intuitive
>> user's interface, bue I've found two drawbacks:
>>
>>- Its sound quality has some place to be improved...
>>- It has no RPID support (displaying the name of the called party).
>>
>> Hi,
>
> Have you tried P-Asserted-Identity features (from latest Asterisk and
> ST2030) ?
> I
> 'm hoping that using this feature, you can have your ST2030 displaying the
> name of the person you're calling : whenever, Asterisk is acking the INVITE
> message it received from the ST2030, it should include the name of called
> party.
>
> To be honest, I really don't know how you can teach Asterisk to behave this
> way (ie to include called party name in ACK replies) but I'm sure the phone
> support displaying names from trusted parties.
>
> It's on my TODO list, anyway, as I would also like to let this phone
> display caller's name when picking up a call (instead of the dialed string).
>
> Regards
>
>
>>-
>>
>> If these two issues are fixed, then it might be the better choice
>> for cheaper price.
>>
>>   __Yehavi:
>>
>> 2008/12/21 Olivier 
>>
>>> I don't know if Thomson ST2030 SIP phones are distributed where you live
>>> but those have the best feature set-price ratio.
>>> They integrate smoothly with Asterisk (one touch pickup, BLF, MWI, ...)
>>> with up to 5 simultaneous calls.
>>>
>>> Here in France, those are selected everywhere ...
>>>
>>> I would recommend them without any hesitation.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-23 Thread Olivier
2008/12/23 Yehavi Bourvine 

> I have one ST2030 bought for testing. Indeed it has a very intuitive user's
> interface, bue I've found two drawbacks:
>
>- Its sound quality has some place to be improved...
>- It has no RPID support (displaying the name of the called party).
>
> Hi,

Have you tried P-Asserted-Identity features (from latest Asterisk and
ST2030) ?
I
'm hoping that using this feature, you can have your ST2030 displaying the
name of the person you're calling : whenever, Asterisk is acking the INVITE
message it received from the ST2030, it should include the name of called
party.

To be honest, I really don't know how you can teach Asterisk to behave this
way (ie to include called party name in ACK replies) but I'm sure the phone
support displaying names from trusted parties.

It's on my TODO list, anyway, as I would also like to let this phone display
caller's name when picking up a call (instead of the dialed string).

Regards


>-
>
> If these two issues are fixed, then it might be the better choice
> for cheaper price.
>
>   __Yehavi:
>
> 2008/12/21 Olivier 
>
>> I don't know if Thomson ST2030 SIP phones are distributed where you live
>> but those have the best feature set-price ratio.
>> They integrate smoothly with Asterisk (one touch pickup, BLF, MWI, ...)
>> with up to 5 simultaneous calls.
>>
>> Here in France, those are selected everywhere ...
>>
>> I would recommend them without any hesitation.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-22 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
I have one ST2030 bought for testing. Indeed it has a very intuitive user's
interface, bue I've found two drawbacks:

   - Its sound quality has some place to be improved...
   - It has no RPID support (displaying the name of the called party).

If these two issues are fixed, then it might be the better choice
for cheaper price.

  __Yehavi:

2008/12/21 Olivier 

> I don't know if Thomson ST2030 SIP phones are distributed where you live
> but those have the best feature set-price ratio.
> They integrate smoothly with Asterisk (one touch pickup, BLF, MWI, ...)
> with up to 5 simultaneous calls.
>
> Here in France, those are selected everywhere ...
>
> I would recommend them without any hesitation.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-22 Thread Rob Hillis
forums - sigma wrote:
> having deployed a fair amount of phones I have the following observation
> (and these observations are worth what you paid for them :-) )
>
>
> 1. Linksys 942, my preferred mainstream desk phone, a bit more expensive
> than the Polycom IP330.   Be careful as there are two SKUs with and
> without power supply (which is true of the ip330).   The 942 has a nice
> large backlit screen, nice big MWI light, takes a 3.5mm headphone.  With
> latest firmware, now supports BLF and LDAP.

Finally BLF support!  I've not done a great deal of Asterisk work in the
last six months, but the lack of BLF support in the 942 was one of the
few irritants with these phones.  Not that the SPA-942 really has enough
buttons to make proper use of the feature, but one or two is a whole
hell of a lot better than none!


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-22 Thread forums - sigma
Rob Hillis wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>> My experience with Grandstream is that are one of the better 'cheap' ones, 
>> but 
>> cheap non the less.
>
> I am yet to run into a worse IP phone than the Grandstreams - although 
> having said that, I should say that I've always steered clear of most 
> of the Chinese "no-name" brand phones.  They're unstable, 
> temperamental and upgrading the firmware is a crapshoot half the time 
> since you never know what new bugs will be introduced and quite often 
> you can't downgrade the firmware if you don't like the newer firmware.
>
> My suggestion would be to look at the Snom 300 (although they are very 
> simplistic phones), the Polycom IP330 (I have a feeling the 320s don't 
> support PoE) or the Linksys phones.  I noted an earlier post saying 
> that these phones were overpriced and designed to lock you in to 
> Linksys gear - my experience has been completely different.  The 
> SPA-942 is quite cheap and integrates nicely with Asterisk.  The 
> SPA-962 is considerably more expensive - but considering the size of 
> the colour LCD screen, they're not that badly priced. (as an aside, 
> the button banks for the SPA-962 are one of the /cheapest/ available!)
> 
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having deployed a fair amount of phones I have the following observation
(and these observations are worth what you paid for them :-) )


1. Linksys 942, my preferred mainstream desk phone, a bit more expensive
than the Polycom IP330.   Be careful as there are two SKUs with and
without power supply (which is true of the ip330).   The 942 has a nice
large backlit screen, nice big MWI light, takes a 3.5mm headphone.  With
latest firmware, now supports BLF and LDAP.
2. Polycom IP330 (320 is same, except it doesn't have the 2port ethernet
switch built in "PC port").   Biggest dis advantage is no voicemail key,
you have to assign a speed dial to Line2 (there is a plastic VM key you
can use, but you have to swap the plastic key overlay). 3.5mm headphone
jack.
3. Grandstream phones... they work with "quirks" for call xfer and
conference as an example.   The phone buttons don't have a "business"
feel to them

my 2 cents...   jim (www.sigma-networks.com)





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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Olivier
I don't know if Thomson ST2030 SIP phones are distributed where you live but
those have the best feature set-price ratio.
They integrate smoothly with Asterisk (one touch pickup, BLF, MWI, ...) with
up to 5 simultaneous calls.

Here in France, those are selected everywhere ...

I would recommend them without any hesitation.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Mike  wrote:
>
>> My suggestion would be to look at the Snom 300 (although they are very
>> simplistic phones), the Polycom IP330 (I have > a feeling the 320s don't
>> support PoE) or the Linksys phones.
>
>
>
> Polycom 320 does support PoE (I have a few deployed) but don't include the
> 10/100 switch.  That is the only diff between the  330 and 320. So if you're
> sharing a wall jack between a VoIP phone and a PC, you're better off with
> the 330. If not, the 320 is noticeably cheaper.
>
>
>
> That being said, unless money is tight (which happens), go with a Polycom
> 550 or even a 650.The bigger screen makes juggling calls easier.
>

I would personally call VoIPSupply and other vendors.  I mention
VoIPSupply because they often post to the biz list with extra
inventory or refurbs and a good price.  I picked up 10 Polycom 600s I
believe for $150 each.

End of fiscal year or quarter, they need to make numbers..

>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Mike

> My suggestion would be to look at the Snom 300 (although they are very
simplistic phones), the Polycom IP330 (I have > a feeling the 320s don't
support PoE) or the Linksys phones. 

 

Polycom 320 does support PoE (I have a few deployed) but don't include the
10/100 switch.  That is the only diff between the  330 and 320. So if you're
sharing a wall jack between a VoIP phone and a PC, you're better off with
the 330. If not, the 320 is noticeably cheaper.

 

That being said, unless money is tight (which happens), go with a Polycom
550 or even a 650.The bigger screen makes juggling calls easier.

 

 

Mike

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Rob Hillis
Michael wrote:
>> I bought it. The SPA962 went on ebay within 3 months of me buying it.
>> I have a few grandstream 286's I like to use for traveling and placing
>> in remote areas of an installation.
>> 
> 3 months... that long?
>   

Again I'm surprised.  I've had no problems at all with the Linksys
phones connected to an Asterisk system.  My list of irritants with the
phone is pretty low - you can't use the line buttons as BLF buttons and
localising tones is rather painful.  They're not in the same class as
Polycoms when it comes to hands-free (but then again, basically nothing
else is) but the hands-free is quite usable.

> I have a Linksys SPA9000 IP PBX I want to quit. Mint condition with all 
> packing etc. Nothing 'wrong' with it (except that it's a Linksys) I just hate 
> proprietary stuff which is what the Linksys is.
>   

Ahh... that's a bit different.  Yes, the SPA-9000s are an overpriced
pain in the ass, but the phones certainly don't fall into the same category.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Michael

> One person's trash is another's treasure.
>
> I've used many linksys phones, including the SPA962 and found the
> sound quality and usage to be simply sub-par. In several set-up's I
> found the sound quality of a Grandstream 286 ATA to be much better
> than a SPA962 IP phone. But, I agree in I find the polycom to be
> amazing phones — and you end up paying for it (although on long term
> cost of ownership it might not be that bad. I bought a Polycom 601
> years ago, use it heavily, and it sounds just as good today as the day
> I bought it. The SPA962 went on ebay within 3 months of me buying it.
> I have a few grandstream 286's I like to use for traveling and placing
> in remote areas of an installation.
>
> Fred Posner

3 months... that long?

I have a Linksys SPA9000 IP PBX I want to quit. Mint condition with all 
packing etc. Nothing 'wrong' with it (except that it's a Linksys) I just hate 
proprietary stuff which is what the Linksys is.

Still it may well suit someone present on the list who doesn't mind that they 
will have to buy Linksys brand phones to work with it, and they want it 
because of the nifty "any n00b can use this" set up utility.

Michael

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Michael
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:27:29 you wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > My experience with Grandstream is that are one of the better 'cheap'
> > ones, but cheap non the less.
>
> I am yet to run into a worse IP phone than the Grandstreams - although
> having said that, I should say that I've always steered clear of most of
> the Chinese "no-name" brand phones.  They're unstable, temperamental and
> upgrading the firmware is a crapshoot half the time since you never know
> what new bugs will be introduced and quite often you can't downgrade the
> firmware if you don't like the newer firmware.

+1

I STRONGLY recommend to the O.P. that whatever they do, whatever path they 
decide to take, that they *only* buy one or two units to test, and test them 
fully, until they are absolutely sure the item is not a POS.

Nothing worse then being stuck with 30x POS.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Fred Posner


On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Rob Hillis wrote:


Michael wrote:


My experience with Grandstream is that are one of the better  
'cheap' ones, but

cheap non the less.


I am yet to run into a worse IP phone than the Grandstreams -  
although having said that, I should say that I've always steered  
clear of most of the Chinese "no-name" brand phones.  They're  
unstable, temperamental and upgrading the firmware is a crapshoot  
half the time since you never know what new bugs will be introduced  
and quite often you can't downgrade the firmware if you don't like  
the newer firmware.


My suggestion would be to look at the Snom 300 (although they are  
very simplistic phones), the Polycom IP330 (I have a feeling the  
320s don't support PoE) or the Linksys phones.  I noted an earlier  
post saying that these phones were overpriced and designed to lock  
you in to Linksys gear - my experience has been completely  
different.  The SPA-942 is quite cheap and integrates nicely with  
Asterisk.  The SPA-962 is considerably more expensive - but  
considering the size of the colour LCD screen, they're not that  
badly priced. (as an aside, the button banks for the SPA-962 are one  
of the cheapest available!)


One person's trash is another's treasure.

I've used many linksys phones, including the SPA962 and found the  
sound quality and usage to be simply sub-par. In several set-up's I  
found the sound quality of a Grandstream 286 ATA to be much better  
than a SPA962 IP phone. But, I agree in I find the polycom to be  
amazing phones — and you end up paying for it (although on long term  
cost of ownership it might not be that bad. I bought a Polycom 601  
years ago, use it heavily, and it sounds just as good today as the day  
I bought it. The SPA962 went on ebay within 3 months of me buying it.  
I have a few grandstream 286's I like to use for traveling and placing  
in remote areas of an installation.


Fred Posner

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Rob Hillis
Michael wrote:
> My experience with Grandstream is that are one of the better 'cheap' ones, 
> but 
> cheap non the less.

I am yet to run into a worse IP phone than the Grandstreams - although
having said that, I should say that I've always steered clear of most of
the Chinese "no-name" brand phones.  They're unstable, temperamental and
upgrading the firmware is a crapshoot half the time since you never know
what new bugs will be introduced and quite often you can't downgrade the
firmware if you don't like the newer firmware.

My suggestion would be to look at the Snom 300 (although they are very
simplistic phones), the Polycom IP330 (I have a feeling the 320s don't
support PoE) or the Linksys phones.  I noted an earlier post saying that
these phones were overpriced and designed to lock you in to Linksys gear
- my experience has been completely different.  The SPA-942 is quite
cheap and integrates nicely with Asterisk.  The SPA-962 is considerably
more expensive - but considering the size of the colour LCD screen,
they're not that badly priced. (as an aside, the button banks for the
SPA-962 are one of the /cheapest/ available!)
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008, Michael wrote:

>> Mentioning costs, one might be tempted to mention "grandsteam", but for
>> some people, those have a bad reputation, although i have two of thos
>> phone for over two years without any problem..
>>
>> OTOH, why not consider the Siemens A580-IP?
>> Recently i bought a package, containing the DECT-base-station (direct
>> IP-interface) and two handsets, (each 6 sip-entries), two
>> handset-chargers for about 100 Euro's.
>> Audio-quality is good. Don't think you can buy SIP-phones any cheaper...
>
> My experience with Grandstream is that are one of the better 'cheap' ones, but
> cheap non the less.

I've deployed a few 100 Grandstreams and generally been happy with them. 
Maybe I've just been lucky. They do have their quirks though, but they are 
very easy to use and setup.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Michael

> Mentioning costs, one might be tempted to mention "grandsteam", but for
> some people, those have a bad reputation, although i have two of thos
> phone for over two years without any problem..
>
> OTOH, why not consider the Siemens A580-IP?
> Recently i bought a package, containing the DECT-base-station (direct
> IP-interface) and two handsets, (each 6 sip-entries), two
> handset-chargers for about 100 Euro's.
> Audio-quality is good. Don't think you can buy SIP-phones any cheaper...

My experience with Grandstream is that are one of the better 'cheap' ones, but 
cheap non the less.

Michael

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 21:00 +1100, Mikel Lindsaar wrote:
> Hello list, 
> 
> 
> I am doing some work for a non profit group.
> 
> 
> As part of this, I am going to be putting in a 30 handset Asterisk
> solution.  We are trying to keep the costs down as much as possible,
> as this job includes cabling, I am looking at POE solutions.
> 
> 
> On the switch side, I am considering something like some Netgear
> ProSafe FS726TP 24 port switches, or maybe the equivalent Linksys
> SRW224MP 24 port switch.  About 4 of these will run the phones and
> computers on the network connecting back to a gigabit switch handling
> the phone and other servers.
> On the phone side VOIP phones
> The price range sort of limits me to:

> * Aastra 9112i
> * Snom 300
> * Polycom 320
> * Cisco CP-7906G (But I believe this won't handle SIP out of the box?)


Mentioning costs, one might be tempted to mention "grandsteam", but for
some people, those have a bad reputation, although i have two of thos
phone for over two years without any problem..

OTOH, why not consider the Siemens A580-IP?
Recently i bought a package, containing the DECT-base-station (direct
IP-interface) and two handsets, (each 6 sip-entries), two
handset-chargers for about 100 Euro's.
Audio-quality is good. Don't think you can buy SIP-phones any cheaper...

hw

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread k4rjj







 
Anyone know if the Cisco 7940 would work?Ronny
 

 -- Original message from "Mikel Lindsaar" : --


Hello list,
I am doing some work for a non profit group.As part of this, I am going to be putting in a 30 handset Asterisk solution.  We are trying to keep the costs down as much as possible, as this job includes cabling, I am looking at POE solutions.
On the switch side, I am considering something like some Netgear ProSafe FS726TP 24 port switches, or maybe the equivalent Linksys SRW224MP 24 port switch.  About 4 of these will run the phones and computers on the network connecting back to a gigabit switch handling the phone and other servers.
On the phone side VOIP phonesThe price range sort of limits me to:* Aastra 9112i* Snom 300* Polycom 320* Cisco CP-7906G (But I believe this won't handle SIP out of the box?)
Any good bad stories of the above?One thing I like about the Aastra is being able to go POE from a switch, to the Aastra, then out of the second port on the Aastra and into the PC.
RegardsMikel










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Re: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Steve Wofford
Linksys SPA900 Series IP phones are good and run on POE w/ the built in switch. 
The have both just make sure you get the ones w/ the switch inclusive. They 
have some cheap 1, 2, 4, 6 line phones. We have this setup w/ SRW2008MP (This 
is only 8 port, but have up to 48 port POE). This way you can stick w/ one 
vendor for your VOIP. Makes support much easier when integrating and you don’t 
get finger pointing.

 

Only other phone I could really recommend is the PolyCom they seem to be decent.

 

DO NOT get phone w/ the power brick.

 

Steve Wofford

www.uctrlit.com

 

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mikel Lindsaar
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 02:00
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

 

Hello list, 

 

I am doing some work for a non profit group.

 

As part of this, I am going to be putting in a 30 handset Asterisk solution.  
We are trying to keep the costs down as much as possible, as this job includes 
cabling, I am looking at POE solutions.

 

On the switch side, I am considering something like some Netgear ProSafe 
FS726TP 24 port switches, or maybe the equivalent Linksys SRW224MP 24 port 
switch.  About 4 of these will run the phones and computers on the network 
connecting back to a gigabit switch handling the phone and other servers.

 

On the phone side VOIP phones

 

The price range sort of limits me to:

 

* Aastra 9112i

* Snom 300

* Polycom 320

* Cisco CP-7906G (But I believe this won't handle SIP out of the box?)

 

Any good bad stories of the above?

 

One thing I like about the Aastra is being able to go POE from a switch, to the 
Aastra, then out of the second port on the Aastra and into the PC.

 

Regards

 

Mikel

 

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[asterisk-users] Good comparisons on cheaper VOIP phones

2008-12-21 Thread Mikel Lindsaar
Hello list,
I am doing some work for a non profit group.

As part of this, I am going to be putting in a 30 handset Asterisk solution.
 We are trying to keep the costs down as much as possible, as this job
includes cabling, I am looking at POE solutions.

On the switch side, I am considering something like some Netgear ProSafe
FS726TP 24 port switches, or maybe the equivalent Linksys SRW224MP 24 port
switch.  About 4 of these will run the phones and computers on the network
connecting back to a gigabit switch handling the phone and other servers.

On the phone side VOIP phones

The price range sort of limits me to:

* Aastra 9112i
* Snom 300
* Polycom 320
* Cisco CP-7906G (But I believe this won't handle SIP out of the box?)

Any good bad stories of the above?

One thing I like about the Aastra is being able to go POE from a switch, to
the Aastra, then out of the second port on the Aastra and into the PC.

Regards

Mikel
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