Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread Robert-iPhone
exactly my other concern - can just drop sip card in and put on the net - would 
also have to get an sbc - which would be more than an ATA.
considering just using a cisco router (low end XM) and throwing a high density 
voice card in it

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John Novack  wrote:

> Agreed NEC isn't cheap. Their products are generally pretty good and robust 
> though. I have an earlier one still working for 18 years and counting
> Of course, when one considers the asterisk machine, configuration time, 
> firewall and the rise in sip hacking  sip trunking can easily turn into a 
> PITA.
> 
> John Novack
> 
> 
> Robert-iPhone wrote:
>> 
>> considering providing the sip trunking nyself via asterisk.
>> the sip trunking looks expensive - card and licenses from nec.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Novack  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> that system can also handle IP trunks, though the equipment might not be 
>>> available to you or outside your budget window
>>> 
>>> How does this relate to Asterisk, or does it?
>>> 
>>> John Novack
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Robert Huddleston wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll have to look at that then – as I thought the card actually said 
>>>> “Ground Start” on it.. I may have missed or it was scratched off the word 
>>>> loop start
>>>>  
>>>> From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM
>>>> To: Robert Huddleston
>>>> Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway
>>>>  
>>>> The SV8100 can do either ground or loop
>>>> Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.
>>>> 
>>>> Programming manual here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100 Programming 
>>>> Manual_1.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.
>>>> 
>>>> John Novack
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Huddleston wrote:
>>>> Ya – customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start card.. 
>>>> they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 punchdown 
>>>> cross-connect.
>>>>  
>>>> But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 and 
>>>> want to use Ethernet for wan…
>>>>  
>>>> So IAD2431 would be great – but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN – I’m shot.
>>>>  
>>>> From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
>>>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>>> Cc: Robert Huddleston
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Huddleston wrote:
>>>> Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can do 
>>>> GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 – but okay if not..
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
>>>> An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on the 
>>>> side
>>>> GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel bank 
>>>> might be overkill for your application.
>>>> Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
>>>> Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop 
>>>> 
>>>> Is this in the US, or ???
>>>> John Novack
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread John Novack
Agreed NEC isn't cheap. Their products are generally pretty good and 
robust though. I have an earlier one still working for 18 years and counting
Of course, when one considers the asterisk machine, configuration time, 
firewall and the rise in sip hacking  sip trunking can easily turn into 
a PITA.


John Novack


Robert-iPhone wrote:

considering providing the sip trunking nyself via asterisk.
the sip trunking looks expensive - card and licenses from nec.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Novack 
mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org>> 
wrote:


that system can also handle IP trunks, though the equipment might not 
be available to you or outside your budget window


How does this relate to Asterisk, or does it?

John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote:


I’ll have to look at that then – as I thought the card actually said 
“Ground Start” on it.. I may have missed or it was scratched off the 
word loop start


*From:* John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM
*To:* Robert Huddleston
*Cc:* 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

The SV8100 can do either ground or loop
Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.

Programming manual here:

http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100 Programming 
Manual_1.pdf


the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.

John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote:

Ya – customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start 
card.. they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 
punchdown cross-connect.


But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 
and want to use Ethernet for wan…


So IAD2431 would be great – but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN – 
I’m shot.


*From:* John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
*To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Cc:* Robert Huddleston
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway


Robert Huddleston wrote:

Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that 
can do GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 – but okay if not..



I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on 
the side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel 
bank might be overkill for your application.

Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop

Is this in the US, or ???
John Novack




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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread Robert-iPhone
considering providing the sip trunking nyself via asterisk.
the sip trunking looks expensive - card and licenses from nec.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Novack  wrote:

> that system can also handle IP trunks, though the equipment might not be 
> available to you or outside your budget window
> 
> How does this relate to Asterisk, or does it?
> 
> John Novack
> 
> 
> Robert Huddleston wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll have to look at that then – as I thought the card actually said “Ground 
>> Start” on it.. I may have missed or it was scratched off the word loop start
>>  
>> From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM
>> To: Robert Huddleston
>> Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway
>>  
>> The SV8100 can do either ground or loop
>> Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.
>> 
>> Programming manual here:
>> 
>> http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100 Programming Manual_1.pdf
>> 
>> the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.
>> 
>> John Novack
>> 
>> 
>> Robert Huddleston wrote:
>> Ya – customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start card.. 
>> they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 punchdown 
>> cross-connect.
>>  
>> But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 and 
>> want to use Ethernet for wan…
>>  
>> So IAD2431 would be great – but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN – I’m shot.
>>  
>> From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Cc: Robert Huddleston
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway
>>  
>> 
>> Robert Huddleston wrote:
>> Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can do 
>> GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 – but okay if not..
>>  
>> 
>> I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
>> An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on the side
>> GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel bank 
>> might be overkill for your application.
>> Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
>> Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop 
>> 
>> Is this in the US, or ???
>> John Novack
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread John Novack
that system can also handle IP trunks, though the equipment might not be 
available to you or outside your budget window


How does this relate to Asterisk, or does it?

John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote:


I'll have to look at that then -- as I thought the card actually said 
"Ground Start" on it.. I may have missed or it was scratched off the 
word loop start


*From:* John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM
*To:* Robert Huddleston
*Cc:* 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

The SV8100 can do either ground or loop
Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.

Programming manual here:

http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100 Programming 
Manual_1.pdf


the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.

John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote:

Ya -- customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start 
card.. they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 
punchdown cross-connect.


But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 
and want to use Ethernet for wan...


So IAD2431 would be great -- but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN -- 
I'm shot.


*From:* John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
*To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Cc:* Robert Huddleston
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway


Robert Huddleston wrote:

Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can 
do GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 -- but okay if not..



I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on 
the side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel 
bank might be overkill for your application.

Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop

Is this in the US, or ???
John Novack




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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread Robert Huddleston
I'll have to look at that then - as I thought the card actually said "Ground
Start" on it.. I may have missed or it was scratched off the word loop start

 

From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM
To: Robert Huddleston
Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

 

The SV8100 can do either ground or loop
Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.

Programming manual here:

http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100 Programming Manual_1.pdf

the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.

John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote: 

Ya - customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start card..
they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 punchdown
cross-connect.

 

But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 and
want to use Ethernet for wan.

 

So IAD2431 would be great - but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN - I'm shot.

 

From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Robert Huddleston
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

 


Robert Huddleston wrote: 

Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can do
GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 - but okay if not..

 


I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on the
side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel bank
might be overkill for your application.
Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop 

Is this in the US, or ???
John Novack






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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread John Novack

The SV8100 can do either ground or loop
Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.

Programming manual here:

http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100 Programming Manual_1.pdf

the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.

John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote:


Ya -- customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start 
card.. they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 
punchdown cross-connect.


But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 
and want to use Ethernet for wan...


So IAD2431 would be great -- but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN -- 
I'm shot.


*From:* John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
*To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Cc:* Robert Huddleston
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway


Robert Huddleston wrote:

Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can 
do GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 -- but okay if not..



I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on 
the side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel 
bank might be overkill for your application.

Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop

Is this in the US, or ???
John Novack



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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread Robert Huddleston
Ya - customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start card..
they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 punchdown
cross-connect.

 

But that IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 and
want to use Ethernet for wan.

 

So IAD2431 would be great - but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN - I'm shot.

 

From: John Novack [mailto:jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Robert Huddleston
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

 


Robert Huddleston wrote: 

Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can do
GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 - but okay if not..

 


I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on the
side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel bank
might be overkill for your application.
Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop 

Is this in the US, or ???
John Novack





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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread Terry Brummell



From: John Novack
Sent: Tue 6/14/2011 3:46 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway



Robert Huddleston wrote: 
Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can do GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 - but okay if not..




I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on the side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel bank might 
be overkill for your application.
Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop 


Is this in the US, or ???
John Novack



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Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread John Novack


Robert Huddleston wrote:


Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can 
do GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 -- but okay if not..





I don't know of any ATA that will do GS
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on the 
side
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel 
bank might be overkill for your application.

Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop

Is this in the US, or ???
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[asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP Gateway

2011-06-14 Thread Robert Huddleston
Anyone have recommendations for a gateway / ATA for business that can do
GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 - but okay if not..

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