Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-03 Thread Vincent
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:56:25 +0200, Zoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are many, (i'm one of the people working for zoiper):

In that case, I think it'd be useful to add a forum on the site, so
people can post when they have problems with the software :-)

Look at the iaxclient homepage,

Thanks for the tip. Apparently, it's a cross-platform library that a
bunch of IAX clients are based on:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-IAXClient


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-02 Thread Vincent
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:52:59 +0100, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have used SIP and IAX for about three years now. We don't do a lot
of traffic, but I haven't really seen a difference in quality or
dropped calls.

Sorry for jumping in, but besides ZoIPer/Idefisk, are there
IAX-capable softphones for Windows?

Thanks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-02 Thread Zoa

There are many, (i'm one of the people working for zoiper):
Look at the iaxclient homepage,
There are iaxcomm, loudhush, kiax, mediax , diax and many more,  
(you could also easily make your own).

Cheers,

Zoa


Vincent wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:52:59 +0100, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
 I have used SIP and IAX for about three years now. We don't do a lot
 of traffic, but I haven't really seen a difference in quality or
 dropped calls.
 

 Sorry for jumping in, but besides ZoIPer/Idefisk, are there
 IAX-capable softphones for Windows?

 Thanks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-02 Thread SIP
Ouch. Why do they almost all feel they have to use 'IAX' in their title? 
Pain. While not half as bad, it's somewhat reminiscent of the iJunk 
everyone seems to sell to capitalise on the iPhone phenomenon.

N.

Zoa wrote:
 There are many, (i'm one of the people working for zoiper):
 Look at the iaxclient homepage,
 There are iaxcomm, loudhush, kiax, mediax , diax and many more,  
 (you could also easily make your own).

 Cheers,

 Zoa


 Vincent wrote:
   
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:52:59 +0100, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
 
 I have used SIP and IAX for about three years now. We don't do a lot
 of traffic, but I haven't really seen a difference in quality or
 dropped calls.
 
   
 Sorry for jumping in, but besides ZoIPer/Idefisk, are there
 IAX-capable softphones for Windows?

 Thanks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-01 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Daryl G. Jurbala wrote:
 How recent?  I tried switching from 1.2 to 1.4 about 4 months ago, and  
 asterisk would stop accepting IAX connections in less than a day and  
 would need to be restarted.
 
Just look at the changelogs, there have been lots and lots and lots of 
commits to the iax channel driver as of late. (and the sip driver).

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-01 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 30 November 2007 04:17:36 Philipp Kempgen wrote:
 With SIP you can attach custom variables to calls (using
 X-... headers).
 IAX (Inter-Asterisk eXchange!) can't do that (yet).

With IAX2 you can share variables too.  I believe Tilghman had supplied a 
patch to do exactly that several months ago.

-A.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-12-01 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
 On Friday 30 November 2007 04:17:36 Philipp Kempgen wrote:
 With SIP you can attach custom variables to calls (using
 X-... headers).
 IAX (Inter-Asterisk eXchange!) can't do that (yet).
 
 With IAX2 you can share variables too.  I believe Tilghman had supplied a 
 patch to do exactly that several months ago.

I believe this patch is in trunk but not in 1.4.


Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
Daryl G. Jurbala wrote:
 How recent?  I tried switching from 1.2 to 1.4 about 4 months ago, and  
 asterisk would stop accepting IAX connections in less than a day and  
 would need to be restarted.

It has been a continuously worked on task (ever since a few months ago). 
  Russell Bryant and others have been working on it and has improved its 
reliability to the point of fixing most if not all of the previously 
outstanding issues.  I recommend trying it again.

-- 
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Software/Firmware Engineer
Digium, Inc.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Griefs?

rejected connect attempt from 111.111.111.111, who was trying to reach
'12345678' No authority found
call rejected by 111.111.111.111: No authority found

But once it works it works...

I have DTMF issues with sending calls from 1.2 to what I suspect is a
really old 1.4 build via IAX that then hands those calls off as SIP .
But I suspect it could be fixed in the SIP configuration. This is a
very isolated situation.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread Daryl G. Jurbala
How recent?  I tried switching from 1.2 to 1.4 about 4 months ago, and  
asterisk would stop accepting IAX connections in less than a day and  
would need to be restarted.

This is with about 50 to 100 calls at a time on each box for about 10  
or 12 hours a day.  Less for the other half.  And all IAX calls are  
being passed on to a far end terminator via SIP.

I was going to scrap IAX entirely because it didn't seem to scale well  
(for non-trunking apps, at least), but many customers need it for  
various reasons.
Daryl

On Nov 30, 2007, at 8:52 AM, zoa wrote:

 IAX had some stability issues in the past, the recent releases have a
 lot of iax2 fixes and should no longer have those issues.

 Zoa


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread zoa
 IAX had some stability issues in the past, the recent releases have a 
lot of iax2 fixes and should no longer have those issues.

Zoa


Steve Totaro wrote:
 randulo wrote:
   
 Hi,

 We all know what the principal advantage of IAX is, doing it all on a
 single port, right? But now and again I hear complaints about it. What
 specific griefs have you had with IAX and has it stopped you from
 using it entirely? Under what conditions have you had problems?

 I have used SIP and IAX for about three years now. We don't do a lot
 of traffic, but I haven't really seen a difference in quality or
 dropped calls.

 What have others on the list experienced?

 tia

 randy
   
 

 I am not sure why, what versions, under what conditions, but audio 
 cutting out has been seen many times.  Simply switching to SIP has 
 solved these issues.  I think trunking (one of the main selling points 
 of IAX due to less overhead) may be a common denominator.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
randulo wrote:
 On Nov 30, 2007 1:40 PM, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 solved these issues.  I think trunking (one of the main selling points
 of IAX due to less overhead) may be a common denominator.
 
 That does tend to explain why I've never experienced (or at least
 noticed) problems. I never trunk which is, as you state, another
 important advantage of IAX.

I find the audio quality to be better on IAX - better jitter buffer!

I don't trunk.

- Mike


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread randulo
On Nov 30, 2007 1:40 PM, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 solved these issues.  I think trunking (one of the main selling points
 of IAX due to less overhead) may be a common denominator.

That does tend to explain why I've never experienced (or at least
noticed) problems. I never trunk which is, as you state, another
important advantage of IAX.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Totaro
randulo wrote:
 Hi,

 We all know what the principal advantage of IAX is, doing it all on a
 single port, right? But now and again I hear complaints about it. What
 specific griefs have you had with IAX and has it stopped you from
 using it entirely? Under what conditions have you had problems?

 I have used SIP and IAX for about three years now. We don't do a lot
 of traffic, but I haven't really seen a difference in quality or
 dropped calls.

 What have others on the list experienced?

 tia

 randy
   

I am not sure why, what versions, under what conditions, but audio 
cutting out has been seen many times.  Simply switching to SIP has 
solved these issues.  I think trunking (one of the main selling points 
of IAX due to less overhead) may be a common denominator.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread Philipp Kempgen
randulo wrote:

 What
 specific griefs have you had with IAX and has it stopped you from
 using it entirely?

With SIP you can attach custom variables to calls (using
X-... headers).
IAX (Inter-Asterisk eXchange!) can't do that (yet).


Regards,
  Philipp Kempgen

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[asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread randulo
Hi,

We all know what the principal advantage of IAX is, doing it all on a
single port, right? But now and again I hear complaints about it. What
specific griefs have you had with IAX and has it stopped you from
using it entirely? Under what conditions have you had problems?

I have used SIP and IAX for about three years now. We don't do a lot
of traffic, but I haven't really seen a difference in quality or
dropped calls.

What have others on the list experienced?

tia

randy

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread asterisk
Same with me IAX trunking worked great up until about 10 calls.   Then
it went down hill.  This was back on 1.2, I haven't tried it since. So
maybe it has been fixed?

Doug

 
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On Nov 30, 2007 1:40 PM, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 solved these issues.  I think trunking (one of the main selling points
 of IAX due to less overhead) may be a common denominator.

That does tend to explain why I've never experienced (or at least
noticed) problems. I never trunk which is, as you state, another
important advantage of IAX.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX complaints? What are they?

2007-11-30 Thread Zoa

The jitter buffer is actually the same.

Zoa

Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
 randulo wrote:
   
 On Nov 30, 2007 1:40 PM, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 solved these issues.  I think trunking (one of the main selling points
 of IAX due to less overhead) may be a common denominator.
   
 That does tend to explain why I've never experienced (or at least
 noticed) problems. I never trunk which is, as you state, another
 important advantage of IAX.
 

 I find the audio quality to be better on IAX - better jitter buffer!

 I don't trunk.

 - Mike


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