Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 01:54:08AM +0100, Chris Bagnall wrote: 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . I don't know much about the legal position over the other side of the pond, but I'm pretty sure that in the UK caller ID spoofing is illegal. There's nothing to stop you withholding your CLI of course, but to deliberately fake someone else's CLI (whether it exists or otherwise) pushes you over the line. Is the same not the case in the US? I don't know if it's illegal (it would fall under the Comms Act if it was), but I know it's discouraged. There are legal reasons you might spoof CLI. Most telcos will have agreements that end-users can't do nasty things with CLI (withholding doesn't actually block anything, just flags the CLI should be withheld, so telcos, law enforcement etc still get it). Quite a few SS7 providers will allow customers to do what they like with CLI, just have an agreement they wont do anything they shouldn't. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44-(0)7775 755503 UK +44-(0)20 79932612 / US +1-(310)8577715 / Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Actually have downloaded a database of over 3000 US numbers in it so far, and have a script to return an XML result with data in it. Coding of the page to enter data is also on the way and should be up and working soon. We are still working on adding the names to the numbers that we do have, so the data returns at this time is just that the number exists, the last time it was accessed, and the count of how many times it has been accessed. Taking requests if there is more data that would like to be added to the results. Dave Bour wrote: As this is a thread off a topic I spun off another thread...some thoughts...or a pooled database of numbers not listed..doesn't even need to be telemarketers. 1. track the hit count.and last used..collecitvely..see if a number is still being used... 2. name against the company... 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . Right away, I knew it was a spammer/telemarketer since it's not a valid number...and I was on the offence answering the phone... In fact, a possible update to the blacklist function in asterisk is a database tracking of it's usage. is it a one of that hit me once..never called back... and another issue is the charity type...what's blacklist to you may not be to me, ie..clothing pickup donation charitys...they really annoy me calling several times a week, but one, I don't block as they're good, their caller id is accurate and they actually leave a message with a number offering you to call back if you have something to pick up (granted it's a recording that does that but at least it's not a hangup). Some may wish to block all those... Political donation type numbers are another one that irk some but not others. By putting names against the number and classification...you could at least then choose to blacklist once the first call comes in, based on accurate caller id info. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Steve Totaro *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:26 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Things that will make your idea difficult. Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see “Unkown”. I believe this is illegal but I see it many times a day. I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal. I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than “Unknown” but cannot be associated to a particular telemarketer. Thanks, Steve Totaro http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/ KB3OPB *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ritesh Agrawal *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the efforts/motivation :-) Ritesh On 5/9/07, *Noah Miller* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ritesh - Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
So a few questions... 1. Can we dump the entire database with names, category and the collective hit count/sync anything we already have. 2. Can we upload our hits to the collective count (and immediately 0 ours, reloading our collective count number) on a periodic basis. 3. Can we upload new items we flag 4. Can we query real time something we get, ie something like the caller id Nerd Vittles Call Trifeca lookup to see if we have a hit since we last updated. And now to get really smart...a peer list such that we don't overload your server but rather randomly pull our data from a peer. The challenge would be to keep the hit count accurate...possible solutions would be rather than track hit count would be to actually record someone's peer id such as a mac address and the number/date/time it was hit... It would also then show the accuracy/relevance of a number if it's last update was 6 months ago...etc. The final stage would be local implementation for each user...to put that list to meaningful use..do we simply use it as a caller id and category...do we build a category block individually...and does a number qualify as a multiple category Thanks for the work so far. D. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Johnson Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:02 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Actually have downloaded a database of over 3000 US numbers in it so far, and have a script to return an XML result with data in it. Coding of the page to enter data is also on the way and should be up and working soon. We are still working on adding the names to the numbers that we do have, so the data returns at this time is just that the number exists, the last time it was accessed, and the count of how many times it has been accessed. Taking requests if there is more data that would like to be added to the results. Dave Bour wrote: As this is a thread off a topic I spun off another thread...some thoughts...or a pooled database of numbers not listed..doesn't even need to be telemarketers. 1. track the hit count.and last used..collecitvely..see if a number is still being used... 2. name against the company... 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . Right away, I knew it was a spammer/telemarketer since it's not a valid number...and I was on the offence answering the phone... In fact, a possible update to the blacklist function in asterisk is a database tracking of it's usage. is it a one of that hit me once..never called back... and another issue is the charity type...what's blacklist to you may not be to me, ie..clothing pickup donation charitys...they really annoy me calling several times a week, but one, I don't block as they're good, their caller id is accurate and they actually leave a message with a number offering you to call back if you have something to pick up (granted it's a recording that does that but at least it's not a hangup). Some may wish to block all those... Political donation type numbers are another one that irk some but not others. By putting names against the number and classification...you could at least then choose to blacklist once the first call comes in, based on accurate caller id info. -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Steve Totaro *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:26 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Things that will make your idea difficult. Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see Unkown. I believe this is illegal but I see it many times a day. I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal. I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than Unknown but cannot be associated to a particular telemarketer. Thanks, Steve Totaro http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/ KB3OPB -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ritesh Agrawal *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help
RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . I don't know much about the legal position over the other side of the pond, but I'm pretty sure that in the UK caller ID spoofing is illegal. There's nothing to stop you withholding your CLI of course, but to deliberately fake someone else's CLI (whether it exists or otherwise) pushes you over the line. Is the same not the case in the US? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it/chris.html This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Suspect it is however I get one spoof a day on average. Most I recognize as invalid dialplan numbers though There's a thought, a incoming dialplan validity checker... If a number can't pass a basic nxx-nxx-, or is from an unassigned npa, auto zap it That said, incoming skype are often 000-012-3456 D Dave Bour Desktop Solution Center 905.381.0077 [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who just want it to work... Giving you complete IT peace of mind. (Sent via Blackberry - hence message may be shorter than my usual verbose responses) PIN 4cc364db (as of March 24, 2007) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Sat May 12 20:54:08 2007 Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . I don't know much about the legal position over the other side of the pond, but I'm pretty sure that in the UK caller ID spoofing is illegal. There's nothing to stop you withholding your CLI of course, but to deliberately fake someone else's CLI (whether it exists or otherwise) pushes you over the line. Is the same not the case in the US? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it/chris.html This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Things that will make your idea difficult. Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see Unkown. I believe this is illegal but I see it many times a day. I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal. I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than Unknown but cannot be associated to a particular telemarketer. Thanks, Steve Totaro http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/ KB3OPB _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ritesh Agrawal Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the efforts/motivation :-) Ritesh On 5/9/07, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ritesh - Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
It sounds pretty interesting to do. On a technical point of view, I believe a simple HTTP interface would be nice, and additionally a nightly rsync for high load sites who wish to run a local cache. About how to set up a community blacklist for telephone numbers and its legal implications, if any, I do not have much experience. Surely telemarketers would not love it. :-) l. In data Wed, 09 May 2007 19:36:22 +0200, Ritesh Agrawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Ritesh -- Home of QueueMetrics - http://queuemetrics.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in Italy virtyually all telemarketers will call using a blank caller-id, so you have no way to know who they are and/or call back. Spoofing might be a problem, though I believe it will take a bit of users for the blacklist to be on telemarketers' radar. l. l. In data Wed, 09 May 2007 21:48:57 +0200, J. Oquendo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I would hope you have heard of CID spoofing? Won't stop as much as you think it will -- Home of QueueMetrics - http://queuemetrics.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
As this is a thread off a topic I spun off another thread...some thoughts...or a pooled database of numbers not listed..doesn't even need to be telemarketers. 1. track the hit count.and last used..collecitvely..see if a number is still being used... 2. name against the company... 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . Right away, I knew it was a spammer/telemarketer since it's not a valid number...and I was on the offence answering the phone... In fact, a possible update to the blacklist function in asterisk is a database tracking of it's usage. is it a one of that hit me once..never called back... and another issue is the charity type...what's blacklist to you may not be to me, ie..clothing pickup donation charitys...they really annoy me calling several times a week, but one, I don't block as they're good, their caller id is accurate and they actually leave a message with a number offering you to call back if you have something to pick up (granted it's a recording that does that but at least it's not a hangup). Some may wish to block all those... Political donation type numbers are another one that irk some but not others. By putting names against the number and classification...you could at least then choose to blacklist once the first call comes in, based on accurate caller id info. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:26 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Things that will make your idea difficult. Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see Unkown. I believe this is illegal but I see it many times a day. I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal. I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than Unknown but cannot be associated to a particular telemarketer. Thanks, Steve Totaro http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/ KB3OPB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ritesh Agrawal Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the efforts/motivation :-) Ritesh On 5/9/07, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ritesh - Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
I don't want to desilussionate you, but my experience is the same. Caller ID is not a really usable Filter mechanism. In the past I had an account where I was able to completly set my outgoing caller ID. It could even be non standard conform numbers like more or less then 11 digit US numbers, or only 3 digit numbers, etc. These Caller ID's were set on network side, so they were transported even over carrier borders. (I could call myself on my cellphone with my cellphone number as outgoing caller ID). I have been on callcenter world in Berlin this year, were all the wolves meet. They invest a lot of money to reach you and faking a caller ID is I assume one of their easiest tricks. I would be happy if you could prove me wrong :). Cheers Tim On 5/10/07, Dave Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As this is a thread off a topic I spun off another thread...some thoughts...or a pooled database of numbers not listed..doesn't even need to be telemarketers. 1. track the hit count.and last used..collecitvely..see if a number is still being used... 2. name against the company... 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking this was 407 111 . Right away, I knew it was a spammer/telemarketer since it's not a valid number...and I was on the offence answering the phone... In fact, a possible update to the blacklist function in asterisk is a database tracking of it's usage. is it a one of that hit me once..never called back... and another issue is the charity type...what's blacklist to you may not be to me, ie..clothing pickup donation charitys...they really annoy me calling several times a week, but one, I don't block as they're good, their caller id is accurate and they actually leave a message with a number offering you to call back if you have something to pick up (granted it's a recording that does that but at least it's not a hangup). Some may wish to block all those... Political donation type numbers are another one that irk some but not others. By putting names against the number and classification...you could at least then choose to blacklist once the first call comes in, based on accurate caller id info. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Steve Totaro *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:26 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Things that will make your idea difficult. Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see Unkown. I believe this is illegal but I see it many times a day. I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal. I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than Unknown but cannot be associated to a particular telemarketer. Thanks, Steve Totaro http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/ KB3OPB -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ritesh Agrawal *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the efforts/motivation :-) Ritesh On 5/9/07, *Noah Miller* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ritesh - Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation
[asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Ritesh ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Regarding (2) - you can either provide a realtime query service supporting web service interface which can be consumed using virtually any programming language and it would be very easy to build an AGI script around it. the second option would be to periodically update a flat file (csv) and provide ftp access - this way you won't have to sustain the load of the realtime queries as the demand grows and the numbers can be provisioned into PBX which doesn't have public Internet access. personally I don't have a use for such a DB, but I'm willing to help on setting it up for the community if needed. Joss. On 5/9/07, Ritesh Agrawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Ritesh ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Hi Ritesh - Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Ritesh Agrawal wrote: Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Ritesh ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Be careful what you ask for. I run what's called a brute forcer list (www.infiltrated.net/bforcers) and I started off with a few people helping me. But found it was easier for me to get it to work the way I needed it to, updated the way I needed it to be, and managed by myself. It gets difficult depending on what you're doing and it will be a thankless effort. Good luck though if you need a mirror or something let me know. -- J. Oquendo http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x1383A743 echo infiltrated.net|sed 's/^/sil@/g' Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Noah Miller wrote: Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. I would hope you have heard of CID spoofing? Won't stop as much as you think it will -- J. Oquendo http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x1383A743 echo infiltrated.net|sed 's/^/sil@/g' Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the efforts/motivation :-) Ritesh On 5/9/07, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ritesh - Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
