Re: [asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-10 Thread David Backeberg
If you're using IAX, upgrade to latest 1.4, as there have been a
number of security releases you should apply. Or at least read up and
make sure the 1.2 version is up-to-date.

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Rosli Sukri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 wanted to ask if anybody has experienced setting up two asterisk 1.2 boxes
 connected via iax trunk. have u guys ever stress tested the trunks i.e how
 many concurrent calls can a trunk handle and whether codec has any effect on
 it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-07 Thread Mattias Andersson
I agree bandwidth is the limit, however the reason to use IAX is it is
saving bandwidth.
I am runging 2 Trixbox CE with IAX over a 2 Mbit line.
I have never had any isues with the IAX trunk.
I wish that I could get son good IAX phones to the office, tan would we skip
on Trixbox and run the phones directly over a VPN Chanel. SIP over VPN are
giving more hassle then IAX sound wise.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Chris Brentano 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have two Asterisk 1.4 boxes connected via IAX over a VPN tunnel on a
 10Mbit link. We never did any stress testing as it's a temporary
 arrangement, but we've never had any call quality issues or run up
 against concurrent ca, holl limitations. I'm mostly routing internal
 extensions over the trunk, and in the case of two floating users I
 have their extensions at each office ring when their DID is called.
 One server is an older Pentium 4 1.7 GHz with 1GB Ram, and the other
 is a Dual Xeon 2.33 GHz with 4GB Ram. As for codec, I'm disallowing
 all except ulaw and gsm, with ulaw the priority codec for hardphones
 (Polycom) and gsm the priority for softphones (X-Lite, Zoiper).

 I would expect the limitation you're going to run up against is not
 Asterisk, but the bandwidth between your two systems.


 On 6 Aug, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Rosli Sukri wrote:

  hi,
  wanted to ask if anybody has experienced setting up two asterisk 1.2
  boxes connected via iax trunk. have u guys ever stress tested the
  trunks i.e how many concurrent calls can a trunk handle and whether
  codec has any effect on it.
  ATT1.c


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Re: [asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-07 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Mattias Andersson wrote:
 I agree bandwidth is the limit, however the reason to use IAX is it is 
 saving bandwidth.
 I am runging 2 Trixbox CE with IAX over a 2 Mbit line.
 I have never had any isues with the IAX trunk.
 I wish that I could get son good IAX phones to the office, tan would we 
 skip on Trixbox and run the phones directly over a VPN Chanel. SIP over 
 VPN are giving more hassle then IAX sound wise.
 
In this setup, there can be a bandwidth saving with keeping both the 
servers so that you can use trunking=yes in the trunk definition in 
iax.conf.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-07 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Mattias Andersson wrote:

 I agree bandwidth is the limit, however the reason to use IAX is it is
 saving bandwidth.
 I am runging 2 Trixbox CE with IAX over a 2 Mbit line.
 I have never had any isues with the IAX trunk.
 I wish that I could get son good IAX phones to the office, tan would we skip
 on Trixbox and run the phones directly over a VPN Chanel. SIP over VPN are
 giving more hassle then IAX sound wise.

So As I Understand It... The bandwidth saving on using IAX is using it in 
a trunk mode - using it on separate phones will use almost as much as SIP 
phones will.

In my (rough calculations!) world, a SIP call uses 80Kb/sec b/w (each way, 
but we'll quietly ignore thant for now) A single IAX call uses almost the 
same, (78 according to a quick check on iftop) but in an IAX trunk, each 
additional call is only adding on about 65Kb/sec - whereas in a SIP world, 
each additional call is adding on another 80Kb/sec... Or you can have 
approx. 15 to 20% more IAX calls than SIP calls over the same Internet 
path, if they're inside an IAX trunk.

Lets see if that works:

On a 2Mb line:

   SIP is: 2048/80  = 25 concurrent SIP calls.
   IAX is: ((2048-80)/65)+1 = 31 concurrent IAX calls.

(And 31 calls is 31*50 = 1550 packets a seconds each way, so make sure the 
router can handle that!)

Personally, I tend to suggest to my customers that if they have more than 
4 or 5 extensions in one location that they're better off with a micro 
PBX to trunk the calls out - especially if they're making a lots of calls, 
and a few internal calls (as on NAT it'll bounce the call out  in again 
)-: This is based on typical UK ADSL line speeds though (up to 420Kb/sec , 
outgoing speeds on normal lines, 830Kbps on 'business' lines) Although 
typically what happens is that they want to keep their existing 
branch-office POTS lines and integrate them into the system, so they get 
a mini PBX rather than a micro one!

However I did see some more IAX phones recently when looking:

Atcom -
   http://www.voipon.co.uk/voip-ip-telephones-atcom-iax-ip-telephone-c-1_61.html

(thats a UK site, obvously)

It also irritates me when I see the likes of Snom (and Doro) phones which 
are Linux based not supporting IAX ...

Gordon

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[asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-06 Thread Rosli Sukri
hi,
wanted to ask if anybody has experienced setting up two asterisk 1.2 boxes
connected via iax trunk. have u guys ever stress tested the trunks i.e how
many concurrent calls can a trunk handle and whether codec has any effect on
it.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-06 Thread Robin Rodriguez
Rosli Sukri wrote:
 hi,
 wanted to ask if anybody has experienced setting up two asterisk 1.2 
 boxes connected via iax trunk. have u guys ever stress tested the 
 trunks i.e how many concurrent calls can a trunk handle and whether 
 codec has any effect on it.
 

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What are the hardware specs of the boxes, and what is the speed of the 
connection between them?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Max amount of concurrent calls on and iax trunk

2008-08-06 Thread Chris Brentano
I have two Asterisk 1.4 boxes connected via IAX over a VPN tunnel on a  
10Mbit link. We never did any stress testing as it's a temporary  
arrangement, but we've never had any call quality issues or run up  
against concurrent call limitations. I'm mostly routing internal  
extensions over the trunk, and in the case of two floating users I  
have their extensions at each office ring when their DID is called.  
One server is an older Pentium 4 1.7 GHz with 1GB Ram, and the other  
is a Dual Xeon 2.33 GHz with 4GB Ram. As for codec, I'm disallowing  
all except ulaw and gsm, with ulaw the priority codec for hardphones  
(Polycom) and gsm the priority for softphones (X-Lite, Zoiper).

I would expect the limitation you're going to run up against is not  
Asterisk, but the bandwidth between your two systems.


On 6 Aug, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Rosli Sukri wrote:

 hi,
 wanted to ask if anybody has experienced setting up two asterisk 1.2  
 boxes connected via iax trunk. have u guys ever stress tested the  
 trunks i.e how many concurrent calls can a trunk handle and whether  
 codec has any effect on it.
 ATT1.c


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