Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-11 Thread john Millican
Thanks to all for the responses.  Boss calls overseas a lot and has an 
unlimited data plan, so this coupled with the rates that we get for 
our VoIP calls it is much cheaper than what Verizon charges.

JohnM

On 10/11/2011 1:29 AM, Jeremy Kister wrote:

On 10/10/2011 10:08 PM, Andres wrote:

I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works
fine with ATT 3G.


+1

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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-11 Thread Andres

On 10/10/2011 10:31 PM, linux guy wrote:

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Andresand...@telesip.net  wrote:

   

I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works fine
with ATT 3G.
 

This begs the question... which is more expensive (and where)...
making a regular cell call or making a SIP call over 3G ?
   
It depends on the destination.  If it is a domestic LD call in the US, I 
use regular cell call.  If it is international LD, I use SIP over 3G.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-11 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 08:26:22AM -0400, john Millican wrote:
 Thanks to all for the responses.  Boss calls overseas a lot and has an 
 unlimited data plan, so this coupled with the rates that we get for 
 our VoIP calls it is much cheaper than what Verizon charges.

My own experience with my 3G provider and VOIP provider is that creating
a callback or originator setup is still cheaper then using the GSM
carrier (esp. long distance), has better quality (lower latency) and
still works if data is not available.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-11 Thread James Sharp
Then there's also the point where it makes more sense to drop a GSM card into 
your Asterisk box and get a cheap unlimited mobile to mobile plan for a SIM and 
use that to transit your calls to VoIP. 

Although that won't help the original asker, though, since he mentioned 
Verizon. 



On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:22, Daniel Tryba dan...@tryba.nl wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 08:26:22AM -0400, john Millican wrote:
 Thanks to all for the responses.  Boss calls overseas a lot and has an 
 unlimited data plan, so this coupled with the rates that we get for 
 our VoIP calls it is much cheaper than what Verizon charges.
 
 My own experience with my 3G provider and VOIP provider is that creating
 a callback or originator setup is still cheaper then using the GSM
 carrier (esp. long distance), has better quality (lower latency) and
 still works if data is not available.
 
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[asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread john Millican

Hello all,
Does anyone know of a good free/inexpensive 3G SIP client for the 
iPhone?  If anyone is using one that works good for them could you 
please let me know.

Thank You,
JohnM

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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread James Sharp

On 10/10/2011 05:35 PM, john Millican wrote:

Hello all,
Does anyone know of a good free/inexpensive 3G SIP client for the
iPhone? If anyone is using one that works good for them could you please
let me know.


I use VaxVoip on my 3GS and iPad.  It works great over both 802.11 and 3G.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread Andres

On 10/10/2011 5:35 PM, john Millican wrote:

Hello all,
Does anyone know of a good free/inexpensive 3G SIP client for the 
iPhone?  If anyone is using one that works good for them could you 
please let me know.

Thank You,
JohnM
I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works 
fine with ATT 3G.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Andres and...@telesip.net wrote:

 I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works fine
 with ATT 3G.

This begs the question... which is more expensive (and where)...
making a regular cell call or making a SIP call over 3G ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread C F
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Andres and...@telesip.net wrote:

 I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works fine
 with ATT 3G.

 This begs the question... which is more expensive (and where)...
 making a regular cell call or making a SIP call over 3G ?

Really depends if you are talking quality or ?
Anyhow, I doubt anyone is getting fine with ATT 3G try holding the
call for more than 2-3 minutes, they have a terrible 3G network. I use
them and the only reason I haven't yet dumped them is because of the
ability of browsing and talking at the same time. But with the amount
of garbage I have to put up with them, I doubt that one benefit is
going to prevail.






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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread James Sharp

On 10/10/2011 10:31 PM, linux guy wrote:

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Andresand...@telesip.net  wrote:


I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works fine
with ATT 3G.


This begs the question... which is more expensive (and where)...
making a regular cell call or making a SIP call over 3G ?


Depends on where you're calling and your cellular LD plan.

For example, an ATT World Connect (paying an addition $3/mo) call to 
Nigeria on my iPhone would cost me about $0.60USD/min (A non-World 
Connect call would be $3.50/min, so lets just go with World Connect). 
Patching that same call into my Teliax account via SIP over 3G would be 
(worst case) $0.16USD/min, assuming that I didn't go over the 2GB of 
dataplan that I pay for whether I use or not.


Now if I don't have a data plan and have to pay the the equivalent of 
$25/2GB, the numbers go quite the opposite way.


Using Google's calculator = (25 U.S. dollars) per (2 gigabytes) = 
0.000149 USD/kilobit (note kilobit here).


A G.711 call is about 80kilobits/sec each way.  That comes out to 
0.011920USD/sec * 2 (bidirectional).  So, round to $0.024USD/sec, times 
60 seconds in a minute, comes out to $1.44USD/min data + $0.16USD/min in 
termination.


I think.

My math could be off by an order of magnitude somewhere.  And your 
mileage may vary depending on codec used.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Maybe slightly OT but..

2011-10-10 Thread Jeremy Kister

On 10/10/2011 10:08 PM, Andres wrote:

I would recommend Acrobits.  Not free but only a few bucks.  It works
fine with ATT 3G.


+1

only thing i like better is it's big brother, Groundwire

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