Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
Alexander Lopez wrote: I think it would be a good idea to start an item in the Wiki about this. Can anyone else chime in for their countries?? Others in the EU, Eastern, Far East? So Far I have: Australia:PSTN to PSTN and Cell to Cell are OK , but Cell to PSTN and PSTN to Cell are NOT OK.Dean Collins Poland: Not Today but possibly in 2009 Daniel UK: Portable if Telco has a porting agreement. Not all Telco have agreements in place. Steve Kennedy France: Porting from France Telcom to another provider not an issue, however if porting between other Telco's, Telco's must have porting agreement between them. Randulo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Administrator TOOTAI Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world. Steve Kennedy a écrit : [...] Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? In the UK numbers are portable, though the telco wanting the number must have a porting agreement with the telco that has the number. Not all telcos have porting agreements. Same in France. If the number is an original France Telecom one, no problem. If the number was _already_ ported, can be a problem. In all other cases, I would suggest you to check if there is an agreement between telco. In Poland, not possible today, should be end 2008/begining 2009. -- Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Mexico will have portability starting July 5th of this year. It is limited to PSTN to PSTN and Cell to Cell within the same geographic region. In this case, PSTN includes the new phone service provided by the Cable TV companies and other players. The final rules are still in flux, but it seems once you switch you will have to wait 6 months before you can switch again. The process, no surprise here, will be encumbered by strict documentation requirements. How well it will work is anyones guess. Telmex still owns the bulk of the last mile to homes, and I have yet to see anything that says they will have to provide access to their competitors. Cable companies will have an advantage here as they already have homes wired to their network. The electric companies (state owned) are joining the game by leasing bandwidth on their grid, but it's currently limited to other carriers. As good as their electric service is, I wouldn't be surprised to be shocked by the quality of the calls on their grid. The real battle will be in Cell service. While Telmex has a 70%+ market share, 70%+ of that is prepaid with no contractual obligations. If the authorities oversee this as well as they did changing long distance carriers a few years back, I expect that i'll be back with Telmex within weeks of switching without having requested the change. Still, it's progress. Alex ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
Steve Kennedy a écrit : [...] Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? In the UK numbers are portable, though the telco wanting the number must have a porting agreement with the telco that has the number. Not all telcos have porting agreements. Same in France. If the number is an original France Telecom one, no problem. If the number was _already_ ported, can be a problem. In all other cases, I would suggest you to check if there is an agreement between telco. In Poland, not possible today, should be end 2008/begining 2009. -- Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
I think it would be a good idea to start an item in the Wiki about this. Can anyone else chime in for their countries?? Others in the EU, Eastern, Far East? So Far I have: Australia: PSTN to PSTN and Cell to Cell are OK , but Cell to PSTN and PSTN to Cell are NOT OK.Dean Collins Poland: Not Today but possibly in 2009 Daniel UK: Portable if Telco has a porting agreement. Not all Telco have agreements in place. Steve Kennedy France: Porting from France Telcom to another provider not an issue, however if porting between other Telco's, Telco's must have porting agreement between them.Randulo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Administrator TOOTAI Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world. Steve Kennedy a écrit : [...] Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? In the UK numbers are portable, though the telco wanting the number must have a porting agreement with the telco that has the number. Not all telcos have porting agreements. Same in France. If the number is an original France Telecom one, no problem. If the number was _already_ ported, can be a problem. In all other cases, I would suggest you to check if there is an agreement between telco. In Poland, not possible today, should be end 2008/begining 2009. -- Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:30:55PM -0400, Alexander Lopez wrote: I think it would be a good idea to start an item in the Wiki about this. Can anyone else chime in for their countries?? Others in the EU, Eastern, Far East? So Far I have: Australia:PSTN to PSTN and Cell to Cell are OK , but Cell to PSTN and PSTN to Cell are NOT OK.Dean Collins Poland: Not Today but possibly in 2009 Daniel UK: Portable if Telco has a porting agreement. Not all Telco have agreements in place. Steve Kennedy France: Porting from France Telcom to another provider not an issue, however if porting between other Telco's, Telco's must have porting agreement between them. Randulo In the UK numbers can be ported between fixed operators and mobile operators, but not (yet) between mobile and fixed (but then the distinction is blurring). Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
Well, here in Venezuela there is no way to port out numbers between Telcos (as far as i know) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Steve Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:30:55PM -0400, Alexander Lopez wrote: I think it would be a good idea to start an item in the Wiki about this. Can anyone else chime in for their countries?? Others in the EU, Eastern, Far East? So Far I have: Australia:PSTN to PSTN and Cell to Cell are OK , but Cell to PSTN and PSTN to Cell are NOT OK.Dean Collins Poland: Not Today but possibly in 2009 Daniel UK: Portable if Telco has a porting agreement. Not all Telco have agreements in place. Steve Kennedy France: Porting from France Telcom to another provider not an issue, however if porting between other Telco's, Telco's must have porting agreement between them. Randulo In the UK numbers can be ported between fixed operators and mobile operators, but not (yet) between mobile and fixed (but then the distinction is blurring). Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Nacho Linux Counter #156439 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
Are phone numbers portable in other countries? Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? Do they use call forwarding? Is their another way to use an origination carrier without loosing your number? Alex ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:49:18AM -0400, Alexander Lopez wrote: Are phone numbers portable in other countries? Depends what country Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? In the UK numbers are portable, though the telco wanting the number must have a porting agreement with the telco that has the number. Not all telcos have porting agreements. Do they use call forwarding? Can do. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
Number portability exists in Australia but mobile numbers only across mobile carriers and 'pstn' numbers only across pstn carriers. Some of the earlier Voip providers (yeh I'm talking about you Faktortel http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/faktortel-sucks.html ) don't allow portability as they assigned numbers that belonged to isdn 100 unit 'pstn blocks', but apart from that it's a pretty good system. Regards, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 (Direct) +1-917-207-3420 (Mobile) +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial) http://www.Cognation.net http://www.Cognation.net/profile From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Lopez Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2008 10:49 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world. Are phone numbers portable in other countries? Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? Do they use call forwarding? Is their another way to use an origination carrier without loosing your number? Alex ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Alexander Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are phone numbers portable in other countries? Recent legislation in France (and perhaps this means the EU?) have made it so. Are the same rules and conditions that exist here in the States mirrored elsewhere? How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? This is exactly what we are in the process of doing. We have asked our provider to port our main phone number to their ipbx. I have used the same people for IAX origination/termination so I presume that if we don't like the ipbx we can go back to asterisk here or hosted and they will be handling those calls. It can't be said enough how important it is for a business to control the destiny of its phone numbers. I feel these should be possible to handle like domain names where you can buy one for life by renewing it. Not quite the case today, but we get the same effect by paying a fee each time we need to port the number. r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Alexander Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does a person in Europe go fully VoIP and still keep the main number? Do they use call forwarding? I shopuld have mentioned too, that if you run your own asterisk you can of course just be connected to your number(s) and deal with it all in the dialplan. This is exactly where I am today. Tomorrow, we'll have ported the number to a service provider in order not to have to leave an asterisk box running in an empty office, which is the case now. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Number portability in other parts of the world.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number portability exists in Australia but mobile numbers only across mobile carriers and 'pstn' numbers only across pstn carriers. Incidentally, in France my Internet provider (Neuf) will pay for your cell number to be ported. I'd be suspicious of anyone who wanted me that badly :) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
