Re: [asterisk-users] OT: real 2 line phone vs. 1 line and call waiting
Brian J. Murrell wrote: I'm looking into getting a new phone and wondering what the difference in functionality is between a single line phone with call waiting and a real 2 line phone (either a real SIP phone or an analog 2 line phone and a 2 port ATA) is. Why would I want the real 2 lines vs. just being able to take an incoming call via call-waiting? Cheers, b. 1) a two line phone can register with two different * servers or sip carriers. 2) It's easy for both incoming and outgoing to separate business from personal calls. (ie line1 is personal, line2 is business) 3) It's easy for a two line phone to register to two different accounts on * and then subsubscribe to two different MWI's on different VM boxes(again goes back to seperating business from personal or your VM from your significate other's VM) That's just off the top of my head. Lyle ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT: real 2 line phone vs. 1 line and call waiting
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 08:23 -0500, Lyle Giese wrote: 1) a two line phone can register with two different * servers or sip carriers. Indeed. But if I only had the one * server which itself registered to my carriers... 2) It's easy for both incoming and outgoing to separate business from personal calls. (ie line1 is personal, line2 is business) Yeah. Given this is a home office phone though, that I even route the house calls to it is just a convenience for when I am in the home office. IOW, if I'm in the office, I almost always want to answer it vs. if I am at a personal/house phone, indeed, I may not want to answer business calls, but this is not the case... 3) It's easy for a two line phone to register to two different accounts on * and then subsubscribe to two different MWI's on different VM boxes Ahhh. Now this is an interesting possibility. (again goes back to seperating business from personal or your VM from your significate other's VM) Ahhh. Indeed. This use case is worth considering. Although, really, I want to migrate to VM in IMAP so that I don't even (have to) use the phone to know there is VM or listen to/delete it. I would use my e-mail client which is my preferred interface. In any case, this one is an interesting benefit. Not sure I'm convinced enough yet though. That said, thanks for the input Lyle, I really appreciate your thoughts on that. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT: real 2 line phone vs. 1 line and call waiting
Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 08:23 -0500, Lyle Giese wrote: 1) a two line phone can register with two different * servers or sip carriers. Indeed. But if I only had the one * server which itself registered to my carriers... 2) It's easy for both incoming and outgoing to separate business from personal calls. (ie line1 is personal, line2 is business) Yeah. Given this is a home office phone though, that I even route the house calls to it is just a convenience for when I am in the home office. IOW, if I'm in the office, I almost always want to answer it vs. if I am at a personal/house phone, indeed, I may not want to answer business calls, but this is not the case... 3) It's easy for a two line phone to register to two different accounts on * and then subsubscribe to two different MWI's on different VM boxes Ahhh. Now this is an interesting possibility. (again goes back to seperating business from personal or your VM from your significate other's VM) Ahhh. Indeed. This use case is worth considering. Although, really, I want to migrate to VM in IMAP so that I don't even (have to) use the phone to know there is VM or listen to/delete it. I would use my e-mail client which is my preferred interface. I have never been convinced that VM via email is a convenence. You have to use the loudspeakers on the PC or headphones, which is not as convenient as a handset. Not to mention the privacy issues/problems using loudspeakers for VM. Do you want your kids/wife overhearing your customer that is upset with you? I find that the email notification is more than enough to know who called and many times why without listening to the actual message and deciding how urgent it is to listen to the message or deal with it. In any case, this one is an interesting benefit. Not sure I'm convinced enough yet though. That said, thanks for the input Lyle, I really appreciate your thoughts on that. b. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT: real 2 line phone vs. 1 line and call waiting
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 17:29 -0500, Lyle Giese wrote: I have never been convinced that VM via email is a convenence. You have to use the loudspeakers on the PC or headphones, which is not as convenient as a handset. Depends on your working environment I guess. Not to mention the privacy issues/problems using loudspeakers for VM. In my office, that's not usually a problem. Do you want your kids/wife overhearing your customer that is upset with you? Heh. Fortunately I don't get those kinds of calls. I find that the email notification is more than enough to know who called and many times why without listening to the actual message and deciding how urgent it is to listen to the message or deal with it. The beauty of IMAP VMail storage is that you get the best of both worlds. You get the convenience of your VMs accessible by IMAP if you want or Asterisk can still access them (in the IMAP store) and do most of the normal VMail functions on them itself. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT: real 2 line phone vs. 1 line and call waiting
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Lyle Giese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) a two line phone can register with two different * servers or sip carriers. Many phones/ATA with multiple lines only allow 1 server and multiple registrations! On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Lyle Giese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never been convinced that VM via email is a convenence. You have to use the loudspeakers on the PC or headphones, which is not as convenient as a handset. Not to mention the privacy issues/problems using loudspeakers for VM. Do you want your kids/wife overhearing your customer that is upset with you? I find it very convenient because I use a Windows Mobile phone with an Exchange server. So if someone leaves a message while I am out of the office 1) I am (pretty much) instantly notified 2) I can listen to the message (after download which takes 2-3 seconds normally) without having to place a phone call, which avoids using airtime and is just faster than placing a call, going through the menu, listening to all other messages, etc. And I know who the caller is beforehand so I know if the message needs attention right then and there or if it can (or should) wait until later. each to his own I suppose. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] OT: real 2 line phone vs. 1 line and call waiting
I'm looking into getting a new phone and wondering what the difference in functionality is between a single line phone with call waiting and a real 2 line phone (either a real SIP phone or an analog 2 line phone and a 2 port ATA) is. Why would I want the real 2 lines vs. just being able to take an incoming call via call-waiting? Cheers, b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
