[asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Hi, Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 BLF ? Which phone would you suggest for that ? (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect the state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. Regards -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
you can use SNOM VoIP phones On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: > Hi, > > Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 BLF > ? > Which phone would you suggest for that ? > > (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect the > state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. > > Regards > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- Thank you with regards, Gopalakrishnan A.N, -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
2010/5/18 Gopalakrishnan A.N > you can use SNOM VoIP phones > Have you tried them with 100 BLF ? For instance, Aastra phones are limited to 50 BLF (though you can have much more buttons). > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 >> BLF ? >> Which phone would you suggest for that ? >> >> (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect >> the state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> -- >> _ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > > > -- > Thank you with regards, > Gopalakrishnan A.N, > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Hi Indeed, limited to only 50 BLF, thats why operator was placed two aastra phones and set a ring group for both. Best Regards Jose Flores Galicia <> BriefCode && Code Based Training 2010/5/18 Olivier > >> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 >>> BLF ? >>> Which phone would you suggest for that ? >>> >>> (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect >>> the state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _ >>> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >>> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >>> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >>> >>> asterisk-users mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thank you with regards, >> Gopalakrishnan A.N, >> >> >> >> -- >> _ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Dumb question - wouldn't it be easier to monitor a web interface than a phone with 100 lights? _ From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jose Flores Galicia Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:32 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ? Hi Indeed, limited to only 50 BLF, thats why operator was placed two aastra phones and set a ring group for both. Best Regards Jose Flores Galicia <> BriefCode && Code Based Training 2010/5/18 Olivier On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: Hi, Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 BLF ? Which phone would you suggest for that ? (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect the state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. Regards -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Thank you with regards, Gopalakrishnan A.N, -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas > Dumb question – wouldn’t it be easier to monitor a web interface than a > phone with 100 lights? > Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to who) but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying activity and issuing transfers. I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current specific extensions phone activity. > > -- > > *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto: > asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Jose Flores > Galicia > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:32 PM > *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ? > > > > Hi > > > > Indeed, limited to only 50 BLF, thats why operator was placed two aastra > phones and set a ring group for both. > > > > Best Regards > Jose Flores Galicia > <> > BriefCode && Code Based Training > > 2010/5/18 Olivier > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: > > Hi, > > Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 BLF > ? > Which phone would you suggest for that ? > > (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect the > state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. > > Regards > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > -- > Thank you with regards, > Gopalakrishnan A.N, > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Olivier wrote: > 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas > >> Dumb question ? wouldn?t it be easier to monitor a web interface than a >> phone with 100 lights? >> > Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. > Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to who) > but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying > activity and issuing transfers. I've deployed a few Grandstream phones with a single button-box. The box has 56 additional keys to the 7 on the GXP2000. It can support a 2nd box connected in to give 119 BLF buttons/speed-dials. BLF was flakey in early Grandstreams, but seems to work fine for me in these systems - but I know Grandstream gets a bad rap by many these days, but it's not too expensive for a trial. Gordon > > I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, > you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), > operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current > specific extensions phone activity. > >> >> -- >> >> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto: >> asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Jose Flores >> Galicia >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:32 PM >> *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion >> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ? >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Indeed, limited to only 50 BLF, thats why operator was placed two aastra >> phones and set a ring group for both. >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> Jose Flores Galicia >> <> >> BriefCode && Code Based Training >> >> 2010/5/18 Olivier >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 BLF >> ? >> Which phone would you suggest for that ? >> >> (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect the >> state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. >> >> Regards >> >> >> -- >> _ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thank you with regards, >> Gopalakrishnan A.N, >> >> >> >> -- >> _ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> >> >> -- >> _ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
2010/5/19 Gordon Henderson > > On Wed, 19 May 2010, Olivier wrote: > > > 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas > > > >> Dumb question ? wouldn?t it be easier to monitor a web interface than a > >> phone with 100 lights? > >> > > Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. > > Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to > who) > > but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying > > activity and issuing transfers. > > I've deployed a few Grandstream phones with a single button-box. The box > has 56 additional keys to the 7 on the GXP2000. It can support a 2nd box > connected in to give 119 BLF buttons/speed-dials. > > BLF was flakey in early Grandstreams, but seems to work fine for me in > these systems - but I know Grandstream gets a bad rap by many these days, > but it's not too expensive for a trial. > > Gordon > It's fine to know about Grandstream. I'm very curious to gather "field proven" experiences as the reason why some vendors (such as aastra) limit BLF number (too much time to register each BLF during boot ? ...) while they offer a larger number of buttons, might be ones that make a trial fail. Indeed, several IP phones support 100 and more buttons but how many of them support BLF features successfully ? If Snom user could also testify, that would be very interesting to know. > > > > > > > I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, > > you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), > > operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current > > specific extensions phone activity. > > > >> > >> -- > >> > >> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto: > >> asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Jose Flores > >> Galicia > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:32 PM > >> *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > >> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> > >> > >> Indeed, limited to only 50 BLF, thats why operator was placed two aastra > >> phones and set a ring group for both. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best Regards > >> Jose Flores Galicia > >> <> > >> BriefCode && Code Based Training > >> > >> 2010/5/18 Olivier > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone supporting 100 > BLF > >> ? > >> Which phone would you suggest for that ? > >> > >> (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE to and reflect > the > >> state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a local extension. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> -- > >> _ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Thank you with regards, > >> Gopalakrishnan A.N, > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> _ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> _ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Olivier wrote: > > > 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas mailto:da...@debsinc.com>> > > Dumb question -- wouldn't it be easier to monitor a web interface > than a phone with 100 lights? > > Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. > Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to > who) but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both > displaying activity and issuing transfers. > Of course s/he does. A lesson those of us who have been in the telephone industry for a quarter century learned a long time ago. Users want and like buttons and lights, and systems that don't support this in an easy to use manner will not succeed. DSS/BLF consoles are a MUST for any busy operator, who is expected to not only answer and switch calls but do many other tasks during the day A commonly available feature in many/most systems, and not limited to 50 or even 100 stations. John Novack > I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a > glance, you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user > count (120 ?), operator would prefer to specifically query its console > to get current specific extensions phone activity. > > > > *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com > <mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com> > [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com > <mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com>] *On Behalf Of > *Jose Flores Galicia > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:32 PM > *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 > BLF ? > > Hi > > Indeed, limited to only 50 BLF, thats why operator was placed two > aastra phones and set a ring group for both. > > Best Regards > Jose Flores Galicia > <mailto:floj...@gmail.com>>> > BriefCode && Code Based Training > > 2010/5/18 Olivier mailto:oza_4...@yahoo.fr>> > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Olivier <mailto:oza_4...@yahoo.fr>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Can you share successful experience with a SIP hardphone > supporting 100 BLF ? > Which phone would you suggest for that ? > > (In case that matters, each BLF is supposed to SUBSCRIBE > to and reflect the state (Idle, Ringing, OnCall) of a > local extension. > > Regards > > > -- > > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar > every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > -- > Thank you with regards, > Gopalakrishnan A.N, > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every > Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2880 - Release Date: 05/17/10 > 14:26:00 > > -- Dog is my co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Hi! > If Snom user could also testify, that would be very interesting to > know. While you can do it, I would not recommend to have two sidecars with a snom 370. Especially the boot-up can become very slow if there are lot of SUBSCRIBEs to be issued, even if you tweak some of the subscription settings of the phone. Looks like the device's CPU cannot handle that many subscriptions too well (and I strongly suspect most other vendors have the same issue). About the snom 8xx phones: No experience there, they have a stronger CPU and the corresponding sidecar product "snom Vision" is very new (it has fewer buttons). Maybe all this will change when Asterisk supports list subscription in some distant future. But until then you will have to do with fewer buttons - or use software. Philipp -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:46:26AM +0200, Olivier wrote: > 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas > > > Dumb question – wouldn’t it be easier to monitor a web interface than a > > phone with 100 lights? > > > Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. > Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to who) > but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying > activity and issuing transfers. > > I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, > you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), > operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current > specific extensions phone activity. Just a thought: I have on my desktop a hardware device with some 100 or more buttons. No leds in them, sadly[1]. Remapping their labels is normally done using specialized hardware (sticky labels and the sort). Naturally there's the alternative of a touch screen. [1] A quick search found products such as http://blog.logitech.com/2009/10/15/new-logitech-gaming-keyboard-g110/ -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:46:26AM +0200, Olivier wrote: > >> 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas >> >> >>> Dumb question – wouldn’t it be easier to monitor a web interface than a >>> phone with 100 lights? >>> >>> >> Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. >> Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to who) >> but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying >> activity and issuing transfers. >> >> I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, >> you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), >> operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current >> specific extensions phone activity. >> > > Just a thought: I have on my desktop a hardware device with some 100 or > more buttons. No leds in them, sadly[1]. Remapping their labels is normally > done using specialized hardware (sticky labels and the sort). > > Naturally there's the alternative of a touch screen. > > [1] A quick search found products such as > http://blog.logitech.com/2009/10/15/new-logitech-gaming-keyboard-g110/ > > Even IF you could get a keyboard with lights you could individually turn on and off (never seen one), good luck getting a receptionist to use it. I can picture it now... you hand your receptionist a lighted keyboard and say 'make do,' and your receptionist brains you with said keyboard when your back is next turned. There's a big difference between a workable situation and a complete and utter kludge. N. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Your receptionist would wait until your back was turned? -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of SIP Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:24 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ? Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:46:26AM +0200, Olivier wrote: > >> 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas >> >> >>> Dumb question - wouldn't it be easier to monitor a web interface than a >>> phone with 100 lights? >>> >>> >> Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. >> Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to who) >> but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying >> activity and issuing transfers. >> >> I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, >> you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), >> operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current >> specific extensions phone activity. >> > > Just a thought: I have on my desktop a hardware device with some 100 or > more buttons. No leds in them, sadly[1]. Remapping their labels is normally > done using specialized hardware (sticky labels and the sort). > > Naturally there's the alternative of a touch screen. > > [1] A quick search found products such as > http://blog.logitech.com/2009/10/15/new-logitech-gaming-keyboard-g110/ > > Even IF you could get a keyboard with lights you could individually turn on and off (never seen one), good luck getting a receptionist to use it. I can picture it now... you hand your receptionist a lighted keyboard and say 'make do,' and your receptionist brains you with said keyboard when your back is next turned. There's a big difference between a workable situation and a complete and utter kludge. N. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 09:24:18AM -0400, SIP wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:46:26AM +0200, Olivier wrote: > > > >> 2010/5/18 Danny Nicholas > >> > >> > >>> Dumb question – wouldn’t it be easier to monitor a web interface than a > >>> phone with 100 lights? > >>> > >>> > >> Yes and no : operator already has a Flash Operator Panel on its screen. > >> Information displayed by FOP is richer (you can see who is talking to who) > >> but operator feels easier with dedicated buttons for both displaying > >> activity and issuing transfers. > >> > >> I think 100 is the upper limit for both kinds of tools where at a glance, > >> you can see all extensions : I think above a certain user count (120 ?), > >> operator would prefer to specifically query its console to get current > >> specific extensions phone activity. > >> > > > > Just a thought: I have on my desktop a hardware device with some 100 or > > more buttons. No leds in them, sadly[1]. Remapping their labels is normally > > done using specialized hardware (sticky labels and the sort). > > > > Naturally there's the alternative of a touch screen. > > > > [1] A quick search found products such as > > http://blog.logitech.com/2009/10/15/new-logitech-gaming-keyboard-g110/ > > > > > Even IF you could get a keyboard with lights you could individually turn > on and off (never seen one), good luck getting a receptionist to use > it. I can picture it now... you hand your receptionist a lighted > keyboard and say 'make do,' and your receptionist brains you with said > keyboard when your back is next turned. Even IF you could get a phone with 100 buttons and such, good luck getting a receptionist to use it. I can picture it now... you hand your receptionist a phone with that lighted keyboard and say 'make do,' and your receptionist brains you with said keyboard when your back is next turned. > > There's a big difference between a workable situation and a complete and > utter kludge. The other difference is that it may force you to use an inferior (or way more expensive. Or both) phone for the receptionist. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
On Thu, 20 May 2010, SIP wrote: >Even IF you could get a keyboard with lights you could individually turn >on and off (never seen one), http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ Bit expensive though... Gordon -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Gordon Henderson wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010, SIP wrote: > >> Even IF you could get a keyboard with lights you could individually turn >> on and off (never seen one), > > http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ > > Bit expensive though... > > Gordon > Heh. A $2400 keyboard. That's crazy. Cool though. j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which SIP hardphone with 100 BLF ?
Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010, Gordon Henderson wrote: > > >> On Thu, 20 May 2010, SIP wrote: >> >> >>> Even IF you could get a keyboard with lights you could individually turn >>> on and off (never seen one), >>> >> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ >> >> Bit expensive though... >> >> Gordon >> >> > > Heh. A $2400 keyboard. That's crazy. Cool though. > > j > > Indeed. It is crazy cool. And crazy expensive. :) N. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
