Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-25 Thread Alan Lord
--[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
 From what people have said Asterisk does not require a huge amount of memory 
 or CPU then ? I only have a couple of extensions.  Running the G729 codec and 
 will look at the Octava software for the PSTN to reduce echo.
 
 Regards,
 

It doesn't seem so to me. For a home office scenario at least. I have a 
VIA CN700 that I have downclocked to 1Ghz, it has 1G of RAM (A single 
stick of DDR2) but it runs *a lot of stuff* as well as Asterisk and I 
have not experienced any issues.

The OS is a custom built Linux based on Linux from Scratch (it enables 
you to build only what you need and compile for the particular hardware 
of your choice).

On this little box I have Asterisk, Tomcat (running the Chandler 
Calendar Server, and some apps that we use for testing such as Open 
Bravo and Concourse Suite CRM), Apache, MySQL and PostgreSQL, Samba 
(acts as a file server for our home network), and other stuff I have 
probably forgotten. I measure uptime in months and the usual reason for 
a restart is due to me playing (breaking) or power failures.

My home telephony network consists of a trio of Siemens S685IP SIP/DECT 
phones, two IAX trunks (one to my business partner's home office 
Asterisk and one to my telephony provider, and a single X100P for a PSTN 
backup line should the IP services die (I'd recommend using OSLEC for 
this kind of card - the EC is excellent).

This is the Mobo I chose: http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11212

You can read more on my blog (in my sig below) by clicking on the 
Asterisk tag for example.

Cheers

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-25 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Can anybody recommend a Compact Flash reader/writer that works okay under Linux 
for creating the boot image ? Sandisk ImageMate looks pretty good and is a good 
price.  Anybody using one of these ?

Regards,

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- Alan Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It doesn't seem so to me. For a home office scenario at least. I have
 a
 
 VIA CN700 that I have downclocked to 1Ghz, it has 1G of RAM (A single
 
 stick of DDR2) but it runs *a lot of stuff* as well as Asterisk and I
 
 have not experienced any issues.
 
 
 
 The OS is a custom built Linux based on Linux from Scratch (it enables
 
 you to build only what you need and compile for the particular
 hardware
 
 of your choice).
 
 
 
 On this little box I have Asterisk, Tomcat (running the Chandler
 
 Calendar Server, and some apps that we use for testing such as Open
 
 Bravo and Concourse Suite CRM), Apache, MySQL and PostgreSQL, Samba
 
 (acts as a file server for our home network), and other stuff I have
 
 probably forgotten. I measure uptime in months and the usual reason
 for
 
 a restart is due to me playing (breaking) or power failures.
 
 
 
 My home telephony network consists of a trio of Siemens S685IP
 SIP/DECT
 
 phones, two IAX trunks (one to my business partner's home office
 
 Asterisk and one to my telephony provider, and a single X100P for a
 PSTN
 
 backup line should the IP services die (I'd recommend using OSLEC for
 
 this kind of card - the EC is excellent).
 
 
 
 This is the Mobo I chose:
 http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11212
 
 
 
 You can read more on my blog (in my sig below) by clicking on the
 
 Asterisk tag for example.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Al

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale
You can read more on my blog (in my sig below) by clicking on the
Asterisk tag for example.

Cheers

Al

Al,
What did you finally settle on as a firewall for this project?
jlc

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-25 Thread Alan Lord
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
snip /
 Al,
 What did you finally settle on as a firewall for this project?
 jlc
 

Ahhh - good question; I was waiting for someone to ask... I haven't.

I only really needed a content filter for the younger members of my 
family. When I upgraded the boys' computer to Edubuntu, I found a 
great thread that helped me add Dan's Guardian and a proxy onto that 
machine. (It runs as root and he can't do anything about it... Hee Heee. 
Until he learns how to hack I guess. But by then I doubt I'll care much 
about him looking at porn anyway).

As for a firewall, we have one built into my dsl router and it's quite 
locked down. I have only one M$ PC left in the household (but not for 
much longer) so other forms of protection are largely unnecessary today. 
Of course that may change over time but for now I'm quite happy.

I should think a GUI like Firestarter (http://www.fs-security.com/) 
would be my next port of call if/when I decide to add a firewall to my 
server.

HTH and thanks for asking.

Al

PS - I did test Untangle on a VM and on a separate partition of my VIA 
host as it now installs cleanly on Ubuntu servers using apt. But is was 
just too much hassle to migrate the existing apps over to an Ubuntu 
Server. If my OS hadn't been a roll-your-own I would have probably used it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-25 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Personally I did look at building a firewall, but in the end left it to the big 
boys and have gone Cisco throughout the house. So Cisco router, firewall 
(ASA5505) and access point.

Regards,

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- Alan Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 
 snip /


 Ahhh - good question; I was waiting for someone to ask... I haven't.
 
 
 
 I only really needed a content filter for the younger members of my
 
 family. When I upgraded the boys' computer to Edubuntu, I found a
 
 great thread that helped me add Dan's Guardian and a proxy onto that
 
 machine. (It runs as root and he can't do anything about it... Hee
 Heee.
 
 Until he learns how to hack I guess. But by then I doubt I'll care
 much
 
 about him looking at porn anyway).
 
 
 
 As for a firewall, we have one built into my dsl router and it's quite
 
 locked down. I have only one M$ PC left in the household (but not for
 
 much longer) so other forms of protection are largely unnecessary
 today.
 
 Of course that may change over time but for now I'm quite happy.
 
 
 
 I should think a GUI like Firestarter (http://www.fs-security.com/)
 
 would be my next port of call if/when I decide to add a firewall to my
 
 server.
 
 
 
 HTH and thanks for asking.
 
 
 
 Al
 
 
 
 PS - I did test Untangle on a VM and on a separate partition of my VIA
 
 host as it now installs cleanly on Ubuntu servers using apt. But is
 was
 
 just too much hassle to migrate the existing apps over to an Ubuntu
 
 Server. If my OS hadn't been a roll-your-own I would have probably
 used it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Gordon,

I have decided to ditch using Xen for Asterisk and build a separate server.  It 
will be used in the home office and this rack case looks great as I am going to 
get a small comms cabinet.  We will be using a TDM400P to bring PSTN to the 
server, plus we have a few SNOM M3 phones around the house and in our offices.

Would the CN1300 be capable for this ? and how much memory do you put in your 
servers ?  Is that case capable of taking two SATA drives which I can then 
mirror ? or do you save any VMs etc to a separate server ?

Regards,

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- Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What processor do you need? ie. how many extensions/calls/PCI
 interface
 
 cards - and additional back-end stuff like MySQL, AGI, etc ?
 
 
 
 And what country are you in (although I'm guessing switzerland from
 those
 
 domains).
 
 
 
 I've built many with this combo: (from the UK, so you might be OK
 ordering
 
 from .ch, or find a local supplier)
 
 
 
 http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10902
 
 
 
 + PSU + VIA CN1300 mobo + 1 PCI card...
 
 
 
 230mm deep, so fits into small office comms cabinets rather than
 needing
 
 full racks, however I limit the CN1300's to 120 extensions - you might
 
 need more, or have other stuff like MySQL, etc. running so might want
 a
 
 beefier processor... (I don't run MySQL, or any other fancy AGI, etc.
 and
 
 I do build a custom system, kernel  apps. targetted at the processor
 
 which runs entirely in RAM)
 
 
 
 I've also used this:
 
 
 
http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10403
 
 
 
 which can take 2 PCI cards via a riser, but I wasn't happy with it's
 
 performance - tried both Digium TDM400 ISDN30 cards at the same time,
 but
 
 the ISDN card kept on losing IRQs and due to time contraints, never
 had
 
 the time to get to the bottom of it.
 
 
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread Andrew Latham
Better solution for Comms Cabinet.

http://www.hoffmanonline.com/product_catalog/product_detail.aspx?cat_1=34cat_2=2410cat_3=42359catID=42359itemID=3599


On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:38 PM, --[ UxBoD ]-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gordon,

 I have decided to ditch using Xen for Asterisk and build a separate server.  
 It will be used in the home office and this rack case looks great as I am 
 going to get a small comms cabinet.  We will be using a TDM400P to bring PSTN 
 to the server, plus we have a few SNOM M3 phones around the house and in our 
 offices.

 Would the CN1300 be capable for this ? and how much memory do you put in your 
 servers ?  Is that case capable of taking two SATA drives which I can then 
 mirror ? or do you save any VMs etc to a separate server ?

 Regards,

 --
 --[ UxBoD ]--
 // PGP Key: curl -s http://www.splatnix.net/uxbod.asc | gpg --import
 // Fingerprint: F57A 0CBD DD19 79E9 1FCC A612 CB36 D89D 2C5A 3A84
 // Keyserver: www.keyserver.net Key-ID: 0x2C5A3A84
 // Phone: +44 845 869 2749 SIP Phone: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 - Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What processor do you need? ie. how many extensions/calls/PCI
 interface

 cards - and additional back-end stuff like MySQL, AGI, etc ?



 And what country are you in (although I'm guessing switzerland from
 those

 domains).



 I've built many with this combo: (from the UK, so you might be OK
 ordering

 from .ch, or find a local supplier)



 http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10902



 + PSU + VIA CN1300 mobo + 1 PCI card...



 230mm deep, so fits into small office comms cabinets rather than
 needing

 full racks, however I limit the CN1300's to 120 extensions - you might

 need more, or have other stuff like MySQL, etc. running so might want
 a

 beefier processor... (I don't run MySQL, or any other fancy AGI, etc.
 and

 I do build a custom system, kernel  apps. targetted at the processor

 which runs entirely in RAM)



 I've also used this:



http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10403



 which can take 2 PCI cards via a riser, but I wasn't happy with it's

 performance - tried both Digium TDM400 ISDN30 cards at the same time,
 but

 the ISDN card kept on losing IRQs and due to time contraints, never
 had

 the time to get to the bottom of it.



 Gordon



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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread Michael Graves
Just about anything bootable will serve you well enough. My home office
is presently running of an HP T5700 thin client (1 GHz transmeta CPU,
256 MB RAM, 256 MB Flash DOM) running Astlinux. Cheap, diskless,
fanless, silent, cool, reliable. Almost perfect IMHO.

It's connected to a snom m3 system, 6 Polycom  Aastra SIP phones, and
one lowly Sipura SPA-2002. We don't have any POTS lines so no FXO card
anymore. I did have a TDM400p at one point.

Michael Graves

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:38:26 +0100 (BST), --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:

Gordon,

I have decided to ditch using Xen for Asterisk and build a separate server.  
It will be used in the home office and this rack case looks great as I am 
going to get a small comms cabinet.  We will be using a TDM400P to bring PSTN 
to the server, plus we have a few SNOM M3 phones around the house and in our 
offices.

Would the CN1300 be capable for this ? and how much memory do you put in your 
servers ?  Is that case capable of taking two SATA drives which I can then 
mirror ? or do you save any VMs etc to a separate server ?

Regards,

-- 
--[ UxBoD ]--
// PGP Key: curl -s http://www.splatnix.net/uxbod.asc | gpg --import
// Fingerprint: F57A 0CBD DD19 79E9 1FCC A612 CB36 D89D 2C5A 3A84
// Keyserver: www.keyserver.net Key-ID: 0x2C5A3A84
// Phone: +44 845 869 2749 SIP Phone: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What processor do you need? ie. how many extensions/calls/PCI
 interface
 
 cards - and additional back-end stuff like MySQL, AGI, etc ?
 
 
 
 And what country are you in (although I'm guessing switzerland from
 those
 
 domains).
 
 
 
 I've built many with this combo: (from the UK, so you might be OK
 ordering
 
 from .ch, or find a local supplier)
 
 
 
 http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10902
 
 
 
 + PSU + VIA CN1300 mobo + 1 PCI card...
 
 
 
 230mm deep, so fits into small office comms cabinets rather than
 needing
 
 full racks, however I limit the CN1300's to 120 extensions - you might
 
 need more, or have other stuff like MySQL, etc. running so might want
 a
 
 beefier processor... (I don't run MySQL, or any other fancy AGI, etc.
 and
 
 I do build a custom system, kernel  apps. targetted at the processor
 
 which runs entirely in RAM)
 
 
 
 I've also used this:
 
 
 
http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10403
 
 
 
 which can take 2 PCI cards via a riser, but I wasn't happy with it's
 
 performance - tried both Digium TDM400 ISDN30 cards at the same time,
 but
 
 the ISDN card kept on losing IRQs and due to time contraints, never
 had
 
 the time to get to the bottom of it.
 
 
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
In the UK these look very nice :) going to get a dark grey/black mini one 
http://www.orionuk.biz/default.asp?productDetails=3

Regards,

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- Andrew Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Better solution for Comms Cabinet.
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
From what people have said Asterisk does not require a huge amount of memory 
or CPU then ? I only have a couple of extensions.  Running the G729 codec and 
will look at the Octava software for the PSTN to reduce echo.

Regards,

-- 
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// Fingerprint: F57A 0CBD DD19 79E9 1FCC A612 CB36 D89D 2C5A 3A84
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- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just about anything bootable will serve you well enough. My home
 office
 
 is presently running of an HP T5700 thin client (1 GHz transmeta CPU,
 
 256 MB RAM, 256 MB Flash DOM) running Astlinux. Cheap, diskless,
 
 fanless, silent, cool, reliable. Almost perfect IMHO.
 
 
 
 It's connected to a snom m3 system, 6 Polycom  Aastra SIP phones, and
 
 one lowly Sipura SPA-2002. We don't have any POTS lines so no FXO card
 
 anymore. I did have a TDM400p at one point.
 
 
 
 Michael Graves

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread Michael Graves
For a couple of years I used a Soekris Net4801 as an Astlinux host. It
features a 266 MHz Geode CPU. That system was able to sucessfully
transcode only two G.729 encoded calls at a time. Since moving to the 1
GHz host I've not bothered to try and overtax the transcode capability
as it does as much as I need. I expect that it would handle 6-8
transcodes at a time, which is more than I need.

Bear in mind that you may not need to transcode very often. If you're
using primarily the PSTN through the TDM400p then why bother with G.729
at all?

Michael


On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:21:31 +0100 (BST), --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:

From what people have said Asterisk does not require a huge amount of memory 
or CPU then ? I only have a couple of extensions.  Running the G729 codec and 
will look at the Octava software for the PSTN to reduce echo.

Regards,

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// Phone: +44 845 869 2749 SIP Phone: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just about anything bootable will serve you well enough. My home
 office
 
 is presently running of an HP T5700 thin client (1 GHz transmeta CPU,
 
 256 MB RAM, 256 MB Flash DOM) running Astlinux. Cheap, diskless,
 
 fanless, silent, cool, reliable. Almost perfect IMHO.
 
 
 
 It's connected to a snom m3 system, 6 Polycom  Aastra SIP phones, and
 
 one lowly Sipura SPA-2002. We don't have any POTS lines so no FXO card
 
 anymore. I did have a TDM400p at one point.
 
 
 
 Michael Graves

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Reason for the G729 is that I have a couple of numbers which come in directly 
over IAX.  Switched office numbers away from BT onto VoIP to reduce cost :)

Regards,

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- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For a couple of years I used a Soekris Net4801 as an Astlinux host. It
 
 features a 266 MHz Geode CPU. That system was able to sucessfully
 
 transcode only two G.729 encoded calls at a time. Since moving to the
 1
 
 GHz host I've not bothered to try and overtax the transcode capability
 
 as it does as much as I need. I expect that it would handle 6-8
 
 transcodes at a time, which is more than I need.
 
 
 
 Bear in mind that you may not need to transcode very often. If you're
 
 using primarily the PSTN through the TDM400p then why bother with
 G.729
 
 at all?
 
 
 
 Michael

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-24 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:

 Reason for the G729 is that I have a couple of numbers which come in 
 directly over IAX.  Switched office numbers away from BT onto VoIP to 
 reduce cost :)

Don't use g729 unless you really need it. Even on an old ADSL-1 connection 
in the UK (256Kbps upstream), you can run 2 G711 calls over IAX (b/w 
needed on an IAX trunk for 2 calls is 80+65 = 145Kb/sec each way. (give or 
take) Even 2 SIP calls @ 160Kbps ought to be fine.

However I've transcoded over 10 concurrent g729 calls on a 1GHz VIA 
processor, so it's possible if you really need to do it.

Gordon



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 - Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For a couple of years I used a Soekris Net4801 as an Astlinux host. It

 features a 266 MHz Geode CPU. That system was able to sucessfully

 transcode only two G.729 encoded calls at a time. Since moving to the
 1

 GHz host I've not bothered to try and overtax the transcode capability

 as it does as much as I need. I expect that it would handle 6-8

 transcodes at a time, which is more than I need.



 Bear in mind that you may not need to transcode very often. If you're

 using primarily the PSTN through the TDM400p then why bother with
 G.729

 at all?



 Michael

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[asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-23 Thread Olivier
Hi,

Though this is a bit off-topic on this list, I think this might interest
those looking to build Asterisk appliances out of mini-ITX boards such as
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1c.htm.

As Intel's Atom is becoming available on a large scale, I'm feeling rackable
mini-ITX cases with PCI/PCIe expansion slot(s) are comparatively still
expensive and uneasy to find.
The only manufacturer I'm aware of is Travla (see
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1c.htm).
So at the moment, I'm inclined to still base our solutions with standard
rackable servers (HP, Dell, ...) instead of less power hungry machines.

Any comment on that ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-23 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Olivier wrote:

 Hi,

 Though this is a bit off-topic on this list, I think this might interest
 those looking to build Asterisk appliances out of mini-ITX boards such as
 http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1c.htm.

 As Intel's Atom is becoming available on a large scale, I'm feeling rackable
 mini-ITX cases with PCI/PCIe expansion slot(s) are comparatively still
 expensive and uneasy to find.
 The only manufacturer I'm aware of is Travla (see
 http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1c.htm).
 So at the moment, I'm inclined to still base our solutions with standard
 rackable servers (HP, Dell, ...) instead of less power hungry machines.

 Any comment on that ?

What processor do you need? ie. how many extensions/calls/PCI interface 
cards - and additional back-end stuff like MySQL, AGI, etc ?

And what country are you in (although I'm guessing switzerland from those 
domains).

I've built many with this combo: (from the UK, so you might be OK ordering 
from .ch, or find a local supplier)

http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10902

+ PSU + VIA CN1300 mobo + 1 PCI card...

230mm deep, so fits into small office comms cabinets rather than needing 
full racks, however I limit the CN1300's to 120 extensions - you might 
need more, or have other stuff like MySQL, etc. running so might want a 
beefier processor... (I don't run MySQL, or any other fancy AGI, etc. and 
I do build a custom system, kernel  apps. targetted at the processor 
which runs entirely in RAM)

I've also used this:

   http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10403

which can take 2 PCI cards via a riser, but I wasn't happy with it's 
performance - tried both Digium TDM400 ISDN30 cards at the same time, but 
the ISDN card kept on losing IRQs and due to time contraints, never had 
the time to get to the bottom of it.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-23 Thread Rob Hillis
Olivier wrote:
 Hi,

 Though this is a bit off-topic on this list, I think this might 
 interest those looking to build Asterisk appliances out of mini-ITX 
 boards such as http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1c.htm.

If you're interested in the ALIX type boards, there is a reseller in 
Australia that offers a rack-mount option.  It's designed to house two 
of the boards, though it's not compulsorary.  See 
http://www.yawarra.com.au.  The products that would probably be of 
interest would be 
http://www.yawarra.com.au/product.php?productCode=HW-NT48-R and 
http://www.yawarra.com.au/product.php?productCode=HW-AX22-R.

Most Asterisk users would be more interested in the first option I'm 
guessing.  It's not the ALIX board - it's the net5501.  The reason it 
would most likely be of more interest is that it has a PCI slot 
available to it.

I'll add that I'm not affiliated with Yawarra in any way other than 
having been a satisfied customer in the past.  I must also add that 
whilst I've got an ALIX box myself, I /haven't/ used it as an Asterisk 
server - mine is a router.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - Which rackable case for mini-ITX boards ?

2008-08-23 Thread Dean Collins
Looks like an expensive way to do it - if power consumption is your
issue why not just go for one of the off the shelf asterisk appliance
solutions that are out there.

...of course this is my cue to recommend the Vdex-40
(http://www.taa.com/products-vdex-40.html) but seriously what advantages
are you getting over any of the asterisk appliances. 


Cheers,

Dean



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Olivier wrote:
 Hi,

 Though this is a bit off-topic on this list, I think this might 
 interest those looking to build Asterisk appliances out of mini-ITX 
 boards such as http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1c.htm.

If you're interested in the ALIX type boards, there is a reseller in 
Australia that offers a rack-mount option.  It's designed to house two 
of the boards, though it's not compulsorary.  See 
http://www.yawarra.com.au.  The products that would probably be of 
interest would be 
http://www.yawarra.com.au/product.php?productCode=HW-NT48-R and 
http://www.yawarra.com.au/product.php?productCode=HW-AX22-R.

Most Asterisk users would be more interested in the first option I'm 
guessing.  It's not the ALIX board - it's the net5501.  The reason it 
would most likely be of more interest is that it has a PCI slot 
available to it.

I'll add that I'm not affiliated with Yawarra in any way other than 
having been a satisfied customer in the past.  I must also add that 
whilst I've got an ALIX box myself, I /haven't/ used it as an Asterisk 
server - mine is a router.

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