Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-21 Thread Roamer2998
Hi all,

Finally we make decision that go with PortSIP, the reasons are below:

1. Support the easy cluster deployment for handle large concurrent calls
and provide
2. All REST API(this is very important to us for integrate the PBX with our
current system), and also offer the rebrand app for free.
3. The multi-tenant arch.

Thanks all for your suggestions, we have learned a lot of !

BR

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Speed Boy  wrote:

>  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
>  PBX with client APPs.
> In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
>  have following candidates:
>
> A: Open source
>
>  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
>  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
> PJSIP stack)
>  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
>  recommended it to us)
>
>
> B: Commercial
>
> 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> acquired by a HongKong company now
> 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
>
> My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, but
>  our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to whom
> the business PBX has better support, and the performance
> is good, and easy to use - considering our team all are new to VoIP/PBX.
>
> We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
>
> 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by
> FreeSwicth) ?
> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support
> Windows ?
>
> Thanks in advance .
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-19 Thread Florian Siegenthaler
Hello,

You can look Wazo, it's a fork of XiVO and it's a powerful graphical PBX with 
Asterisk.
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On April 19, 2017 5:07:41 AM GMT+02:00, Jai Rangi  
wrote:
> Well said Alex
>
>On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:06 PM Alex Epshteyn 
>wrote:
>
>> The solution you choose should be based on many factors which should
>> include your business requirements, team's experience, your budget,
>growth
>> expectations and more.
>>
>> You can choose Asterisk or Freeswitch as a platform and start
>building on
>> that - but it is not simple and being new to VoIP you are likely to
>make
>> mistakes. The "do-it-yourself" approach will some money initially,
>but will
>> be the most expensive option long term - as you will be denying the
>economy
>> of scale. Bringing a "smart programmer" won't help much as you will
>also
>> create a "lock-in". In fact, this could be worse than a dependency
>created
>> when you use a commercial or a known open source solution as while
>you
>> would still be able to get help from the community for the "base"
>part of
>> your pbx, your custom part will be much harder to deal with.
>>
>> Our company started building Asterisk based PBX in 2002 and Multi
>Tenant
>> PBX in 2005 - we do this as our core business and are still finding
>areas
>> for improvement :). As your experience with VoIP is minimal I would
>side
>> with your CTO - you should find a solution high enough in the stack
>to
>> avoid the complexity of building it all yourself.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> --
>>
>> Alex Epshteyn
>> email: a...@thirdlane.com
>> web: www.thirdlane.com
>> phone +1 415.261.6601
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "J Montoya or A J Stiles" 
>> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <
>> asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:40:47 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection
>> >
>> > On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:
>> > >  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
>> > >  PBX with client APPs.
>> > > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
>> > >  have following candidates:
>> > >
>> > > A: Open source
>> > >
>> > >  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
>> > >  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version
>using
>> > >  the
>> > > PJSIP stack)
>> > >  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
>> > >  recommended it to us)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > B: Commercial
>> > >
>> > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
>> > > acquired by a HongKong company now
>> > > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
>> > > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
>> > >
>> > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
>> > > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
>> > > whom the business PBX has better support, and the
>> > > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
>> > > all are new to VoIP/PBX.
>> >
>> > Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open
>> > Source
>> > solution breaks, who can you call?"  The answer is, "Any
>> > sufficiently-competent
>> > programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces". 
>Whereas
>> > if you
>> > spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is
>only
>> > *one*
>> > place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to
>> > fix your
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and
>Modification
>> > Rights
>> > (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except
>> > distribute
>> > copies"),  a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all. 
>But
>> > since
>> > the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money
>> > from you and
>> > maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly
>> > desirable in
>> > the course of this, do not

Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread Jai Rangi
 Well said Alex

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:06 PM Alex Epshteyn  wrote:

> The solution you choose should be based on many factors which should
> include your business requirements, team's experience, your budget, growth
> expectations and more.
>
> You can choose Asterisk or Freeswitch as a platform and start building on
> that - but it is not simple and being new to VoIP you are likely to make
> mistakes. The "do-it-yourself" approach will some money initially, but will
> be the most expensive option long term - as you will be denying the economy
> of scale. Bringing a "smart programmer" won't help much as you will also
> create a "lock-in". In fact, this could be worse than a dependency created
> when you use a commercial or a known open source solution as while you
> would still be able to get help from the community for the "base" part of
> your pbx, your custom part will be much harder to deal with.
>
> Our company started building Asterisk based PBX in 2002 and Multi Tenant
> PBX in 2005 - we do this as our core business and are still finding areas
> for improvement :). As your experience with VoIP is minimal I would side
> with your CTO - you should find a solution high enough in the stack to
> avoid the complexity of building it all yourself.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Alex
>
> --
>
> Alex Epshteyn
> email: a...@thirdlane.com
> web: www.thirdlane.com
> phone +1 415.261.6601
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "J Montoya or A J Stiles" 
> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <
> asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:40:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection
> >
> > On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:
> > >  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
> > >  PBX with client APPs.
> > > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
> > >  have following candidates:
> > >
> > > A: Open source
> > >
> > >  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
> > >  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using
> > >  the
> > > PJSIP stack)
> > >  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
> > >  recommended it to us)
> > >
> > >
> > > B: Commercial
> > >
> > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> > > acquired by a HongKong company now
> > > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> > > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
> > >
> > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
> > > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
> > > whom the business PBX has better support, and the
> > > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
> > > all are new to VoIP/PBX.
> >
> > Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open
> > Source
> > solution breaks, who can you call?"  The answer is, "Any
> > sufficiently-competent
> > programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces".  Whereas
> > if you
> > spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only
> > *one*
> > place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to
> > fix your
> > problem.
> >
> > On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification
> > Rights
> > (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except
> > distribute
> > copies"),  a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all.  But
> > since
> > the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money
> > from you and
> > maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly
> > desirable in
> > the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life.
> >
> > > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
> > >
> > > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate,
> > > sofia(using by
> > > FreeSwicth) ?
> >
> > Not sure about this.  We're still using the original chan_sip driver.
> >
> > > 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
> >
> > It's about as easy as compiling anything from Source Code.  Harder
> > than LAME
> > MP3 encoder, but 

Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread Telium Technical Support
Have a look at xCally from Xenialabs too – they are particularly popular with 
call centers (and still asterisk based).

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Roamer2998
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:00 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 

Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

 

Thanks All.

 

Thanks Alex, we also tested thirdlane PBX, and comparing it with PortSIP PBX, 
Vodia PBX, we hope we can make decision next week.

 

Best regards,

 

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Alex Epshteyn mailto:a...@thirdlane.com> > wrote:

The solution you choose should be based on many factors which should include 
your business requirements, team's experience, your budget, growth expectations 
and more.

You can choose Asterisk or Freeswitch as a platform and start building on that 
- but it is not simple and being new to VoIP you are likely to make mistakes. 
The "do-it-yourself" approach will some money initially, but will be the most 
expensive option long term - as you will be denying the economy of scale. 
Bringing a "smart programmer" won't help much as you will also create a 
"lock-in". In fact, this could be worse than a dependency created when you use 
a commercial or a known open source solution as while you would still be able 
to get help from the community for the "base" part of your pbx, your custom 
part will be much harder to deal with.

Our company started building Asterisk based PBX in 2002 and Multi Tenant PBX in 
2005 - we do this as our core business and are still finding areas for 
improvement :). As your experience with VoIP is minimal I would side with your 
CTO - you should find a solution high enough in the stack to avoid the 
complexity of building it all yourself.

Good luck,

Alex

--

Alex Epshteyn
email: a...@thirdlane.com <mailto:a...@thirdlane.com> 
web: www.thirdlane.com <http://www.thirdlane.com> 
phone +1 415.261.6601  



- Original Message -
> From: "J Montoya or A J Stiles"  <mailto:asterisk_l...@earthshod.co.uk> >
> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
> mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> >
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:40:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection
>
> On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:
> >  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
> >  PBX with client APPs.
> > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
> >  have following candidates:
> >
> > A: Open source
> >
> >  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
> >  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using
> >  the
> > PJSIP stack)
> >  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
> >  recommended it to us)
> >
> >
> > B: Commercial
> >
> > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> > acquired by a HongKong company now
> > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
> >
> > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
> > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
> > whom the business PBX has better support, and the
> > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
> > all are new to VoIP/PBX.
>
> Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open
> Source
> solution breaks, who can you call?"  The answer is, "Any
> sufficiently-competent
> programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces".  Whereas
> if you
> spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only
> *one*
> place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to
> fix your
> problem.
>
> On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification
> Rights
> (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except
> distribute
> copies"),  a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all.  But
> since
> the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money
> from you and
> maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly
> desirable in
> the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life.
>
> > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
> >
> > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
>
> Yes.
>
> > 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate,
> > sofia(using by
> > FreeSwicth) ?
>
> Not sure about this.  We're still using the original c

Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread Roamer2998
Thanks All.

Thanks Alex, we also tested thirdlane PBX, and comparing it with PortSIP
PBX, Vodia PBX, we hope we can make decision next week.

Best regards,

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Alex Epshteyn  wrote:

> The solution you choose should be based on many factors which should
> include your business requirements, team's experience, your budget, growth
> expectations and more.
>
> You can choose Asterisk or Freeswitch as a platform and start building on
> that - but it is not simple and being new to VoIP you are likely to make
> mistakes. The "do-it-yourself" approach will some money initially, but will
> be the most expensive option long term - as you will be denying the economy
> of scale. Bringing a "smart programmer" won't help much as you will also
> create a "lock-in". In fact, this could be worse than a dependency created
> when you use a commercial or a known open source solution as while you
> would still be able to get help from the community for the "base" part of
> your pbx, your custom part will be much harder to deal with.
>
> Our company started building Asterisk based PBX in 2002 and Multi Tenant
> PBX in 2005 - we do this as our core business and are still finding areas
> for improvement :). As your experience with VoIP is minimal I would side
> with your CTO - you should find a solution high enough in the stack to
> avoid the complexity of building it all yourself.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Alex
>
> --
>
> Alex Epshteyn
> email: a...@thirdlane.com
> web: www.thirdlane.com
> phone +1 415.261.6601
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "J Montoya or A J Stiles" 
> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <
> asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:40:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection
> >
> > On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:
> > >  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
> > >  PBX with client APPs.
> > > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
> > >  have following candidates:
> > >
> > > A: Open source
> > >
> > >  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
> > >  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using
> > >  the
> > > PJSIP stack)
> > >  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
> > >  recommended it to us)
> > >
> > >
> > > B: Commercial
> > >
> > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> > > acquired by a HongKong company now
> > > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> > > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
> > >
> > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
> > > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
> > > whom the business PBX has better support, and the
> > > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
> > > all are new to VoIP/PBX.
> >
> > Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open
> > Source
> > solution breaks, who can you call?"  The answer is, "Any
> > sufficiently-competent
> > programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces".  Whereas
> > if you
> > spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only
> > *one*
> > place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to
> > fix your
> > problem.
> >
> > On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification
> > Rights
> > (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except
> > distribute
> > copies"),  a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all.  But
> > since
> > the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money
> > from you and
> > maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly
> > desirable in
> > the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life.
> >
> > > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
> > >
> > > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate,
> > > sofia(using by
> > > FreeSwicth) ?
> >
> > Not sure about this.  We're still using the original chan_sip driver.
> >
> > > 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asteri

Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread Alex Epshteyn
The solution you choose should be based on many factors which should include 
your business requirements, team's experience, your budget, growth expectations 
and more.

You can choose Asterisk or Freeswitch as a platform and start building on that 
- but it is not simple and being new to VoIP you are likely to make mistakes. 
The "do-it-yourself" approach will some money initially, but will be the most 
expensive option long term - as you will be denying the economy of scale. 
Bringing a "smart programmer" won't help much as you will also create a 
"lock-in". In fact, this could be worse than a dependency created when you use 
a commercial or a known open source solution as while you would still be able 
to get help from the community for the "base" part of your pbx, your custom 
part will be much harder to deal with.

Our company started building Asterisk based PBX in 2002 and Multi Tenant PBX in 
2005 - we do this as our core business and are still finding areas for 
improvement :). As your experience with VoIP is minimal I would side with your 
CTO - you should find a solution high enough in the stack to avoid the 
complexity of building it all yourself.

Good luck,

Alex

-- 

Alex Epshteyn
email: a...@thirdlane.com
web: www.thirdlane.com
phone +1 415.261.6601


- Original Message -
> From: "J Montoya or A J Stiles" 
> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:40:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection
> 
> On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:
> >  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
> >  PBX with client APPs.
> > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
> >  have following candidates:
> > 
> > A: Open source
> > 
> >  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
> >  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using
> >  the
> > PJSIP stack)
> >  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
> >  recommended it to us)
> > 
> > 
> > B: Commercial
> > 
> > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> > acquired by a HongKong company now
> > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
> > 
> > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
> > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
> > whom the business PBX has better support, and the
> > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
> > all are new to VoIP/PBX.
> 
> Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open
> Source
> solution breaks, who can you call?"  The answer is, "Any
> sufficiently-competent
> programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces".  Whereas
> if you
> spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only
> *one*
> place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to
> fix your
> problem.
> 
> On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification
> Rights
> (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except
> distribute
> copies"),  a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all.  But
> since
> the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money
> from you and
> maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly
> desirable in
> the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life.
>  
> > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
> > 
> > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate,
> > sofia(using by
> > FreeSwicth) ?
> 
> Not sure about this.  We're still using the original chan_sip driver.
> 
> > 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
> 
> It's about as easy as compiling anything from Source Code.  Harder
> than LAME
> MP3 encoder, but easier than the Linux kernel.  If you altered
> `monop` from
> the BSDgames package to make the streets match your local edition of
> the game,
> you will have no problem whatsoever with building Asterisk.
> 
> If you understand the process of what you are doing -- basically,
> setting up
> an automated process that will examine your server hardware and
> software
> configuration  (configure),  choosing which parts of Asterisk you
> want to
> include  (make menuselect),  compiling the selected human-readable
> Source Code
> into binary code that the computer can u

Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:57:27PM +0800, Speed Boy wrote:
>  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
>  PBX with client APPs.
> In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
>  have following candidates:
> 
> A: Open source
> 
>  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
>  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
> PJSIP stack)
>  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
>  recommended it to us)
> 
> 
> B: Commercial
> 
> 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> acquired by a HongKong company now
> 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
> 
> My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
> but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
> whom the business PBX has better support, and the
> performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
> all are new to VoIP/PBX.

I answered elsewhere[1]. I'll just note one important point from my
reply: Asterisk and FreeSwitch are not PBXs. They are telephony servers.
One application you can build using them is a PBX. You can either
program it yourself or use an existing one (e.g.: FreePBX for Asterisk).
It's not clear from your question which of the two you need.

To me personally the real advantage of open source is not the cost. It
is the ability to tweak, and the control you retain. Right now you are
new to VoIP. But that will soon change.

[1] 
http://lists.pjsip.org/pipermail/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org/2017-April/019929.html

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Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread Jonathan H
On 18 April 2017 at 09:40, J Montoya or A J Stiles
 wrote:
>
> It is always preferrable to compile your own Asterisk to fit your hardware and
> include just the bits you want, rather than rely on anyone else's pre-compiled
> package.

Feel free to take a look at
https://github.com/lardconcepts/asterisk-digitalocean-voipfone-config/blob/master/Asterisk-14-on-Ubuntu.md

Ignore the bit about Voipfone and just skip to the "Install Asterisk" bit.

I've used this same script with Asterisk 12,13 and 14 on Ubuntu 15,16
and 17 so this should work!

Let me know how you get on. And if anyone spots anything wrong on
there, let me know!

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Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-18 Thread J Montoya or A J Stiles
On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:
>  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
>  PBX with client APPs.
> In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
>  have following candidates:
> 
> A: Open source
> 
>  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
>  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
> PJSIP stack)
>  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
>  recommended it to us)
> 
> 
> B: Commercial
> 
> 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> acquired by a HongKong company now
> 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
> 
> My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
> but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
> whom the business PBX has better support, and the
> performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
> all are new to VoIP/PBX.

Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open Source 
solution breaks, who can you call?"  The answer is, "Any sufficiently-competent 
programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces".  Whereas if you 
spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only *one* 
place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to fix your 
problem.

On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification Rights  
(basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except distribute 
copies"),  a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all.  But since 
the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money from you and 
maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly desirable in 
the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life.
 
> We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
> 
> 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?

Yes.

> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by
> FreeSwicth) ?

Not sure about this.  We're still using the original chan_sip driver.

> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?

It's about as easy as compiling anything from Source Code.  Harder than LAME 
MP3 encoder, but easier than the Linux kernel.  If you altered `monop` from 
the BSDgames package to make the streets match your local edition of the game, 
you will have no problem whatsoever with building Asterisk.

If you understand the process of what you are doing -- basically, setting up 
an automated process that will examine your server hardware and software 
configuration  (configure),  choosing which parts of Asterisk you want to 
include  (make menuselect),  compiling the selected human-readable Source Code 
into binary code that the computer can understand natively  (make)  and then 
moving the compiled binary code and configuration files from the Source Code 
folder to where the computer is expecting for them to be  (make install)  then 
you should not have too many problems.

It is always preferrable to compile your own Asterisk to fit your hardware and 
include just the bits you want, rather than rely on anyone else's pre-compiled 
package.

> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended?

The latest one.

> And does Asterisk support Windows
> ?

You can certainly use Windows softphones to talk to Asterisk, but Asterisk 
itself requires a non-toy underlying operating system.  Ubuntu and CentOS are 
the best-supported Linux distributions.  Asterisk has also been seen working, 
to greater or lesser extents, on Solaris and the BSDs.  But Linux was the 
original development environment  (although one of the two original projects 
that ended up merging and becoming Asterisk, many years ago, was originally 
developed on FreeBSD),  and is what most Asterisk telephonistas know.

Any hardware which is capable of running Windows can, of course, run Linux; 
and usually better.

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Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-17 Thread D'Arcy Cain

On 2017-04-17 12:41 PM, Victor Villarreal wrote:

* Asterisk is build to work on Linux. So your team needs some skills
like setting up a basic Linux server (Debian, Centos, etc), donwload
software from Internet, compile and install software manually.


It may be that the developers mostly use Linux but Unix (i.e. BSD) works 
perfectly fine as well.  I run it on NetBSD and it is rock solid.


As for Asterisk vs. FreeSwitch, as a data point I started out with the 
latter but converted to Asterisk before going live.  FS really was more 
Linux oriented and I had many problems getting it working on NetBSD.  I 
also find the support here better.


If you run NetBSD (and probably any other BSD) you can install from 
their package system.  I compile from source using the package but you 
can also install a pre-compiled version just as easily.


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Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-17 Thread Victor Villarreal
Hi Speed Boy.

I agree with Emiliano Vazquez too.

Additionally, you and your team must think others points before choose
Asterisk:

* Asterisk is build to work on Linux. So your team needs some skills like
setting up a basic Linux server (Debian, Centos, etc), donwload software
from Internet, compile and install software manually.

* Your team must know how to configure Linux networking. And solve NAT
issue if apply. Basic network protocols like UDP, SIP and SDP/RDP are
welcome.

* If Asterisk needs interact with external world via VOIP provider, then
you must know how to configure SIP or IAX2 trunks. If you have analog (like
FXO) or digitals lines (like ISDN or similar), then you need ti know how to
install and configure hardware on the Linux server like telephony cards
(PCI-e or PCI) or configure VOIP gateways.

* Security: How to install and configure a basic firewall (using iptables),
o Fail2Ban. And best practices in Asterisk about this topics.

Cheers

El 17 abr. 2017 13:03, "Emiliano Vazquez" 
escribió:

> I prefer Asterisk for my projects.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Speed Boy 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
>>  PBX with client APPs.
>> In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
>>  have following candidates:
>>
>> A: Open source
>>
>>  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
>>  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
>> PJSIP stack)
>>  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
>>  recommended it to us)
>>
>>
>> B: Commercial
>>
>> 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
>> acquired by a HongKong company now
>> 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
>> also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
>>
>> My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, but
>>  our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to whom
>> the business PBX has better support, and the performance is
>> good, and easy to use - considering our team all are new to VoIP/PBX.
>>
>
> Hire a team with knowledge about VOIP, without your prefer if you use
> Asterisk or whatever you want
> You will win a brand new full responsibility with VOIP. The learning
> process is long and hard. You will find a lot of problems like NAT,
> intrusions. Consider learn before you pain this.
>
>
>
>>
>> We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
>>
>> 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by
>> FreeSwicth) ?
>>
> did you google about this?
>
>
>
>
>> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
>>
> You need some skills but today is really simple.
>
>
>
>> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support
>> Windows ?
>>
>> The latest stable release.
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks in advance .
>>
>> Best regards.
>
>
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-17 Thread Emiliano Vazquez
I prefer Asterisk for my projects.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Speed Boy  wrote:

>  Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
>  PBX with client APPs.
> In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
>  have following candidates:
>
> A: Open source
>
>  1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
>  history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
> PJSIP stack)
>  2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
>  recommended it to us)
>
>
> B: Commercial
>
> 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
> acquired by a HongKong company now
> 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
> also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
>
> My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, but
>  our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to whom
> the business PBX has better support, and the performance is
> good, and easy to use - considering our team all are new to VoIP/PBX.
>

Hire a team with knowledge about VOIP, without your prefer if you use
Asterisk or whatever you want
You will win a brand new full responsibility with VOIP. The learning
process is long and hard. You will find a lot of problems like NAT,
intrusions. Consider learn before you pain this.



>
> We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
>
> 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
>

Yes.


> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by
> FreeSwicth) ?
>
did you google about this?




> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
>
You need some skills but today is really simple.



> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support
> Windows ?
>
> The latest stable release.




> Thanks in advance .
>
> Best regards.


>
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[asterisk-users] PBX selection

2017-04-17 Thread Speed Boy
 Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
 PBX with client APPs.
In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
 have following candidates:

A: Open source

 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
 history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
PJSIP stack)
 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
 recommended it to us)


B: Commercial

1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
acquired by a HongKong company now
2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.

My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
whom the business PBX has better support, and the
performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
all are new to VoIP/PBX.

We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:

1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by
FreeSwicth) ?
3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support Windows
?

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