Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-21 Thread Sebastien Thomas
I just put in an HP DL360 G6 for a client spec with a Sangoma 4x PRI, a Sangoma 
4x FXS and about 150 devices.  Running live now on 1x PRI approx 20-calls and 
60 phones, load is at zero.

We went with the base machine Xeon 5500 + 4GB RAM, 2x PS, 2x HD (raid 
mirror)... about 3K$ but Im certain we are overspec'ed as we are not 
transcoding and the echo cancel is on the Sangoma board.  Client has a rack 
full of HP, so they preferred to stay branded and "be safe" when it comes to 
the specs.

Only hiccup I had with rackmounts and FXS cards is that the Sangoma boards need 
a molex connector which are nowhere to be found on the HPs due to the 
proprietary power connectors.  We ended up cutting out the PCI card's backplate 
and running a molex-only power cable right into the UPS.

Besides the price, the HP machines are pretty swell.

Seb


On 2010-10-21, at 7:49 AM, Andrew Latham wrote:

> There is always one (or more) bad product from every manufacturer that
> leaves a bad taste in your mouth.  Always keep you mind open and
> search before you hit the order button.  For supply chain I like
> Supermicro.  I don't like all their products but I know I can get the
> right part with one order number from many distributors.  IBM has a
> good supply chain and their parts are actually fairly priced.
> 
> 
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> 
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria  wrote:
>> I think I'll prefer Dell over supermicro, as another customer I worked for
>> always complained about supermicro. I also once used supermicro and I had no
>> luck with it.
>> 
>> But which model of Dell is good for this requirement? I don't want to get
>> over powerful server than required for this setup.
>> 
>> Zeeshan A Zakaria
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>> On 2010-10-21 6:56 AM, "Andrew Latham"  wrote:
>> 
>> No transcoding?  OK, this will work...
>> http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm?typ=E
>> 
>> 
>> ~
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>> 
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>> * Learn more about Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
>> * Learn more about Tux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria 
>> wrote:
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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-21 Thread Andrew Latham
There is always one (or more) bad product from every manufacturer that
leaves a bad taste in your mouth.  Always keep you mind open and
search before you hit the order button.  For supply chain I like
Supermicro.  I don't like all their products but I know I can get the
right part with one order number from many distributors.  IBM has a
good supply chain and their parts are actually fairly priced.


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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria  wrote:
> I think I'll prefer Dell over supermicro, as another customer I worked for
> always complained about supermicro. I also once used supermicro and I had no
> luck with it.
>
> But which model of Dell is good for this requirement? I don't want to get
> over powerful server than required for this setup.
>
> Zeeshan A Zakaria
>
> --
> www.ilovetovoip.com
>
> On 2010-10-21 6:56 AM, "Andrew Latham"  wrote:
>
> No transcoding?  OK, this will work...
> http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm?typ=E
>
>
> ~
> Andrew "lathama" Latham
> lath...@gmail.com
>
> * Learn more about OSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software
> * Learn more about Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
> * Learn more about Tux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria 
> wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-21 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
I think I'll prefer Dell over supermicro, as another customer I worked for
always complained about supermicro. I also once used supermicro and I had no
luck with it.

But which model of Dell is good for this requirement? I don't want to get
over powerful server than required for this setup.

Zeeshan A Zakaria

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On 2010-10-21 6:56 AM, "Andrew Latham"  wrote:

No transcoding?  OK, this will work...
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm?typ=E


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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-21 Thread Andrew Latham
No transcoding?  OK, this will work...
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm?typ=E


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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> What servers would you suggest for:100 concurrent SIP calls, 4xT1 card, and
> a not much busy website, i.e. getting 500-1000 hits a day.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-21 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 01:15 -0400, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
> Yes, one server will do it all. It will not be in a data center but at
> customer premisis, so doesn't have to be 1U.
> 
In that case, how about a dell-server?

And if it is not in a data center, take care of an UPS for both the
server and any network equipment (modem's, switches, POE-phones)

hw

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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-20 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Yes, one server will do it all. It will not be in a data center but at
customer premisis, so doesn't have to be 1U.

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On 2010-10-20 10:07 PM, "Bruce B"  wrote:

I am assuming you will rack this in a data-center.For a *server* I won't get
anything but Supermicro stuff. Amazing quality and compact.

-Bruce



On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Steve Edwards 
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> On Wed, 20 O...

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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-20 Thread Bruce B
I am assuming you will rack this in a data-center.For a *server* I won't get
anything but Supermicro stuff. Amazing quality and compact.

-Bruce

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Steve Edwards wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
>
> > What servers would you suggest for:100 concurrent SIP calls, 4xT1 card,
> > and a not much busy website, i.e. getting 500-1000 hits a day.
>
> Are you thinking of a single server to handle all of the above workload or
> are you thinking of 3 separate servers.
>
> Is transcoding an issue?
>
> Are the security needs the same between the SIP server (only access from
> known SIP peers), the TDM server (only ssh from you), and the web server
> (access from all)?
>
> Depending on the answers to the questions above, 1 or a couple of low
> powered Atom based systems may be up to the task. My only experience with
> "Atoms" is as a HTPC where the ION does most of the work and as a desktop
> where running several bzip2's (compressing ISOs on an SSD) in the
> background doesn't interfere with foreground interactivity.
>
> I could run a "sipp" command from an adjacent host to load up my desktop
> box if you can specify the command line...
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-20 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

> What servers would you suggest for:100 concurrent SIP calls, 4xT1 card, 
> and a not much busy website, i.e. getting 500-1000 hits a day.

Are you thinking of a single server to handle all of the above workload or 
are you thinking of 3 separate servers.

Is transcoding an issue?

Are the security needs the same between the SIP server (only access from 
known SIP peers), the TDM server (only ssh from you), and the web server 
(access from all)?

Depending on the answers to the questions above, 1 or a couple of low 
powered Atom based systems may be up to the task. My only experience with 
"Atoms" is as a HTPC where the ION does most of the work and as a desktop 
where running several bzip2's (compressing ISOs on an SSD) in the 
background doesn't interfere with foreground interactivity.

I could run a "sipp" command from an adjacent host to load up my desktop 
box if you can specify the command line...

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Newline  Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-20 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Any suggestions?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria  wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> What servers would you suggest for:100 concurrent SIP calls, 4xT1 card, and
> a not much busy website, i.e. getting 500-1000 hits a day.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zeeshan A Zakaria
>
> --
> www.ilovetovoip.com
>



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[asterisk-users] Recommendation for a new server

2010-10-20 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Hello list,

What servers would you suggest for:100 concurrent SIP calls, 4xT1 card, and
a not much busy website, i.e. getting 500-1000 hits a day.

Thanks,

Zeeshan A Zakaria

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