Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On 03/13/2014 01:13 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Easy to see if I want to scroll down to see if it is something interesting to me. I get a lot of e-mails each day and scrolling wastes too much time. But if you have a solution to a problem that I raise, please feel free to post it anywhere you like. On 13/03/2014 11:33 AM, A J Stiles wrote: (If you want to reply to this message, this is not where your reply goes) Please, for the benefit of anyone reading the archives in search of answers to a question, when replying to messages on this list, can everyone try to follow the natural flow of conversation? That is, position your reply *AFTER* the thing you are replying to, not before it. You may remove quoted material in order to keep the message size down, but please leave enough of it to preserve context. (If you want to reply to a point made in the preceding paragraph, this is where your reply goes) If you need to make a point-by-point argument, split up your reply -- inserting artificial paragraph breaks into the quoted material, if necessary -- so each section of your reply follows the point it is addressing. (If you want to reply to a point made in the preceding paragraph, or the message as a whole, this is where your reply goes) This war comes up often, too often! Good manors are becoming a thing of the past and this is a sad thing in my opinion. It has been my experience that most people on this list prefer the older tried and tested method of bottom posting. Makes it better for people who find the post later while googleing a problem they are having. Question before answers. If you feel that you do not have enough time to take the 1 maybe two seconds to scroll to the bottom of a post, you are way to busty and need to re-prioritize you activities. Obviously this is just my opinion, take or leave it, your choice. Thank You, JohnM -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On Thu, March 13, 2014 15:32, Kevin Larsen wrote: On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? +1-1 = 0 I do not care about where people put their replies so long as I can figure out who is answering what. What I do not like to read is this interminable religious dogma about the 'natural' order of writing. This is the second or third list this week in which this B.S. has shown up in my inbox. In written business communication, in contrast to tech-speak customarily found on mailing lists, ones answer always goes before any quoted context. Not because it has to, it is just that I have seldom, if ever, seen it done any other way. And regular business communication with non-technical folk comprises well over 75% of my daily written communication. And while I understand the cultural motivation behind the dogma of bottom posting I remain sceptical respecting its utility. Is there any objective evidence whatsoever that top or bottom posting makes any difference to the reader's understanding of the message? Does any rigorously determined data exist to support that contention? If not then this is simply a matter of trying to impose a set of arbitrary cultural values cloaked in the guise of technical superiority. Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. Outlook can quote correctly, but it is an all or nothing setting it would appear. Lotus Notes actually handles it better as there is a Reply option for normal email and a Reply With Internet-Style History that I use for this list. I don't have any problems following the rules of the list, but I am fully on the side of the Replies should go at the top group and would vote for a change in the rules. And do not even start on the Chevy vs. Ford debate respecting the technical superiority of Pine over Outlook. GAWD... Life its too short as it is. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
If the sequence was really important, we would just move this whole list to a LinkedIn group and have a much better environment for following threads and managing the profiles of the group's members. This is a pretty old system of managing peer support but it always takes a while to get legacy systems replaced. Ron On 14/03/2014 9:52 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: On Thu, March 13, 2014 15:32, Kevin Larsen wrote: On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? +1-1 = 0 I do not care about where people put their replies so long as I can figure out who is answering what. What I do not like to read is this interminable religious dogma about the 'natural' order of writing. This is the second or third list this week in which this B.S. has shown up in my inbox. In written business communication, in contrast to tech-speak customarily found on mailing lists, ones answer always goes before any quoted context. Not because it has to, it is just that I have seldom, if ever, seen it done any other way. And regular business communication with non-technical folk comprises well over 75% of my daily written communication. And while I understand the cultural motivation behind the dogma of bottom posting I remain sceptical respecting its utility. Is there any objective evidence whatsoever that top or bottom posting makes any difference to the reader's understanding of the message? Does any rigorously determined data exist to support that contention? If not then this is simply a matter of trying to impose a set of arbitrary cultural values cloaked in the guise of technical superiority. Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. Outlook can quote correctly, but it is an all or nothing setting it would appear. Lotus Notes actually handles it better as there is a Reply option for normal email and a Reply With Internet-Style History that I use for this list. I don't have any problems following the rules of the list, but I am fully on the side of the Replies should go at the top group and would vote for a change in the rules. And do not even start on the Chevy vs. Ford debate respecting the technical superiority of Pine over Outlook. GAWD... Life its too short as it is. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
(If you want to reply to this message, this is not where your reply goes) Please, for the benefit of anyone reading the archives in search of answers to a question, when replying to messages on this list, can everyone try to follow the natural flow of conversation? That is, position your reply *AFTER* the thing you are replying to, not before it. You may remove quoted material in order to keep the message size down, but please leave enough of it to preserve context. (If you want to reply to a point made in the preceding paragraph, this is where your reply goes) If you need to make a point-by-point argument, split up your reply -- inserting artificial paragraph breaks into the quoted material, if necessary -- so each section of your reply follows the point it is addressing. (If you want to reply to a point made in the preceding paragraph, or the message as a whole, this is where your reply goes) -- AJS Answers come *after* questions. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
-1 Prefer top posting. Easy to see if I want to scroll down to see if it is something interesting to me. I get a lot of e-mails each day and scrolling wastes too much time. But if you have a solution to a problem that I raise, please feel free to post it anywhere you like. On 13/03/2014 11:33 AM, A J Stiles wrote: (If you want to reply to this message, this is not where your reply goes) Please, for the benefit of anyone reading the archives in search of answers to a question, when replying to messages on this list, can everyone try to follow the natural flow of conversation? That is, position your reply *AFTER* the thing you are replying to, not before it. You may remove quoted material in order to keep the message size down, but please leave enough of it to preserve context. (If you want to reply to a point made in the preceding paragraph, this is where your reply goes) If you need to make a point-by-point argument, split up your reply -- inserting artificial paragraph breaks into the quoted material, if necessary -- so each section of your reply follows the point it is addressing. (If you want to reply to a point made in the preceding paragraph, or the message as a whole, this is where your reply goes) -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Your preferences are in conflict with the mailing list rules (http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss), specifically #5. It has to be all one way or the other. This is an English language list. Thus, the natural expectation is top to bottom, left to right, answers follow questions. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Edwards Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:39 PM To: rwhee...@artifact-software.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Your preferences are in conflict with the mailing list rules (http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss), specifically #5. It has to be all one way or the other. This is an English language list. Thus, the natural expectation is top to bottom, left to right, answers follow questions. If Digium does not like my top posting then they can remove me from the mailing list. Your battle is already lost unless Outlook is banned from the mailing list. This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] on behalf of Eric Wieling [ewiel...@nyigc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; rwhee...@artifact-software.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Edwards Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:39 PM To: rwhee...@artifact-software.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Your preferences are in conflict with the mailing list rules (http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss), specifically #5. It has to be all one way or the other. This is an English language list. Thus, the natural expectation is top to bottom, left to right, answers follow questions. If Digium does not like my top posting then they can remove me from the mailing list. Your battle is already lost unless Outlook is banned from the mailing list. This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.comhttp://www.api-digital.com/ -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Ditto, bottom posting is from the 90's. We've passed that era. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Terry Brummell Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:44 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; rwhee...@artifact-software.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts _ From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] on behalf of Eric Wieling [ewiel...@nyigc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; rwhee...@artifact-software.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Edwards Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:39 PM To: rwhee...@artifact-software.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Your preferences are in conflict with the mailing list rules (http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss), specifically #5. It has to be all one way or the other. This is an English language list. Thus, the natural expectation is top to bottom, left to right, answers follow questions. If Digium does not like my top posting then they can remove me from the mailing list. Your battle is already lost unless Outlook is banned from the mailing list. This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com http://www.api-digital.com/ -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Ditto, bottom posting is from the 90's. We've passed that era. _ Spam http://spamaway.npgco.com/canit/b.php?i=01LB6IUVim=74a497f24a89t=201403 13c=s Not spam http://spamaway.npgco.com/canit/b.php?i=01LB6IUVim=74a497f24a89t=201403 13c=n Forget previous vote http://spamaway.npgco.com/canit/b.php?i=01LB6IUVim=74a497f24a89t=201403 13c=f -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
After each line of text, please also dip the corner of your keyboard into your ink well to ensure your writing can been seen. Calling something natural because it used to be that way isn't always correct. -MD- P.S. Notice how little we see PS in posts...now that we can also edit our own posts before clicking send. Again, just because it used to be doesn't make it right... P.P.S. This sounds like a fun debate that will go nowhere... From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com on behalf of Matt Hoskins matt.hosk...@npgco.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:46 PM To: Asterisk Users List Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Terry Brummell Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:44 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; rwhee...@artifact-software.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.commailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] on behalf of Eric Wieling [ewiel...@nyigc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; rwhee...@artifact-software.commailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.commailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Edwards Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:39 PM To: rwhee...@artifact-software.commailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Your preferences are in conflict with the mailing list rules (http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss), specifically #5. It has to be all one way or the other. This is an English language list. Thus, the natural expectation is top to bottom, left to right, answers follow questions. If Digium does not like my top posting then they can remove me from the mailing list. Your battle is already lost unless Outlook is banned from the mailing list. This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.comhttp://www.api-digital.com/ -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Ditto, bottom posting is from the 90's. We've passed that era. Spam http://spamaway.npgco.com/canit/b.php?i=01LB6IUVim=74a497f24a89t=20140313c=s Not spamhttp://spamaway.npgco.com/canit/b.php?i=01LB6IUVim=74a497f24a89t=20140313c=n Forget previous votehttp://spamaway.npgco.com/canit/b.php?i=01LB6IUVim=74a497f24a89t=20140313c=f -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Terry Brummell Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:44 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; rwhee...@artifact-software.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Edwards Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:39 PM To: rwhee...@artifact-software.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Your preferences are in conflict with the mailing list rules (http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss), specifically #5. It has to be all one way or the other. This is an English language list. Thus, the natural expectation is top to bottom, left to right, answers follow questions. If Digium does not like my top posting then they can remove me from the mailing list. Your battle is already lost unless Outlook is banned from the mailing list. This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? Ditto, bottom posting is from the 90's. We've passed that era. I bottom posted when I didn't have to use a PoS e-mail client like Outlook. Much like the battle of sip trunks, the battle for top posting .vs. bottom posting is already lost. I must admit, this is more fun than I expected. Sort of a treasure hunt of who said what when in the message. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. On 13/3/14 5:13 pm, Ron Wheeler wrote: -1 Prefer top posting. Easy to see if I want to scroll down to see if it is something interesting to me. I get a lot of e-mails each day and scrolling wastes too much time. You can then also reply to another point here like this: it's as much about trimming previous posts as about not top posting. New posts should include just enough context to ensure the message isn't meaningless, but not quoting a 20+ line irrelevance. That way you see both the question and the answer without scrolling. Whilst we're on the subject of mailing lists, I'd like to add my personal pet rant: MTAs that don't add/honour In-Reply-To headers. Completely breaks threaded readers. That is all :-) Kind regards, Chris -- This email is made from 100% recycled electrons -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. Outlook can quote correctly, but it is an all or nothing setting it would appear. Lotus Notes actually handles it better as there is a Reply option for normal email and a Reply With Internet-Style History that I use for this list. I don't have any problems following the rules of the list, but I am fully on the side of the Replies should go at the top group and would vote for a change in the rules. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On 3/13/2014 11:33 AM, A J Stiles wrote: If you need to make a point-by-point argument, split up your reply -- a critical piece to this component is proper quoting. the person replying needs to differentiate between what he is writing and what is is replying to. notice the in front of what I am quoting, above. in addition, clicking reply, quoting 100 lines, and then adding a 1 line response is lazy. trim the quotation to what makes sense. that said, i love a good top-post flame thread, so this should be interesting to watch. I'll start off by saying the biggest whine i hear is that my MUA doesn't support bottom-posting, which holds no water. i dont care that much, though- i don't waste time on top-posted messages a nor messages that are quoted stupidly. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. Kevin Larson sez: Outlook can quote correctly, but it is an all or nothing setting it would appear. Lotus Notes actually handles it better as there is a Reply option for normal email and a Reply With Internet-Style History that I use for this list. I don't have any problems following the rules of the list, but I am fully on the side of the Replies should go at the top group and would vote for a change in the rules. I'll vote again for top posting, and expect my vote to be recognized internationally about as much as the Crimean referendum. --Don -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
Don Kelly wrote: On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. Kevin Larson sez: Outlook can quote correctly, but it is an all or nothing setting it would appear. Lotus Notes actually handles it better as there is a Reply option for normal email and a Reply With Internet-Style History that I use for this list. I don't have any problems following the rules of the list, but I am fully on the side of the Replies should go at the top group and would vote for a change in the rules. I’ll vote again for top posting, and expect my vote to be recognized “internationally” about as much as the Crimean referendum. --Don As an interesting aside, the oft quoted rule #5 didn't exist for many years, until one of these diatribes took place. Then, and only then, was it added and the contention made that it was always there. Many of the same who continue to carp on top posting are the worst offenders when it comes to trimming the footers that arrive with each message, forcing the reader to wade through many of these to ( sometimes ) find a reply or maybe, just maybe, an answer. Often it isn't worth the effort to scroll through all the crap to find the pony. John Novack -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Replying to Posts
On 13/03/2014 9:32 PM, Don Kelly wrote: On 13/3/14 6:27 pm, Eric Wieling wrote: This is an example of why I top post. Who wrote what? Of course, if you use a mail client that's capable of quoting correctly, it all works beautifully. Kevin Larson sez: Outlook can quote correctly, but it is an all or nothing setting it would appear. Lotus Notes actually handles it better as there is a Reply option for normal email and a Reply With Internet-Style History that I use for this list. I don't have any problems following the rules of the list, but I am fully on the side of the Replies should go at the top group and would vote for a change in the rules. I'll vote again for top posting, and expect my vote to be recognized internationally about as much as the Crimean referendum. But the Russians will get to keep Crimea so don't worry too much about our preference for top posting. In the long run. --Don -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
