Re: [asterisk-users] SER, OpenSER, Kamailio, OpenSIPS -- what are you using?

2008-12-13 Thread Philipp Kempgen
jonathan augenstine schrieb:
 Have you checked out OpenSBC (www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/*OpenSBC)?*

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/OpenSBC


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[asterisk-users] SER, OpenSER, Kamailio, OpenSIPS -- what are you using?

2008-12-12 Thread Steve Edwards
One of the above is frequently used to front-end Asterisk.

I used OpenSER to front-end a farm of Asterisk servers and was very happy 
with it. The ability to take a box out of service or to route a specific 
DNIS to a box for testing rocks.

Since OpenSER has died (I don't care about the 
politics/personalities/trademarks), Kamailio and OpenSIPS have risen from 
the ashes. What are you using? (I'm still using OpenSER 1.3.1-notls.)

Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] SER, OpenSER, Kamailio, OpenSIPS -- what are you using?

2008-12-12 Thread Alex Balashov
At this point, it's six one, half dozen the other, although that may 
change with time.  Kamailio and SER appear to be joining forces.  But 
it's mostly a matter of your affinity with the community and the various 
political forces and personalities at this point.

I personally am sticking with the Kamailio camp because I think they are 
doing a better job of creating a stable business environment around the 
project and doing things that are important to big-name adopters who are 
far more concerned about having something they can lean on than about 
coding, coding and coding.

On the other hand, the OpenSIPS camp has proposed some very radical and 
potentially beneficial architectural changes if they are actually 
carried through.

Still, at this point in time, six one  half-dozen the other, especially 
if you're talking about the core and stateful (tm module) 
functionality needed for things that fall under the rubric of 
front-ending Asterisk.

Steve Edwards wrote:

 One of the above is frequently used to front-end Asterisk.
 
 I used OpenSER to front-end a farm of Asterisk servers and was very happy 
 with it. The ability to take a box out of service or to route a specific 
 DNIS to a box for testing rocks.
 
 Since OpenSER has died (I don't care about the 
 politics/personalities/trademarks), Kamailio and OpenSIPS have risen from 
 the ashes. What are you using? (I'm still using OpenSER 1.3.1-notls.)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] SER, OpenSER, Kamailio, OpenSIPS -- what are you using?

2008-12-12 Thread Alex Balashov
But, just to be clear, the answer to your question - or more precisely, 
the answer to the question underlying your question (WHY are you using 
what you're using?) - is fundamentally political in its essence.

Most aspects of the case for one or the other have little to do with 
technology.  At this time.

Alex Balashov wrote:

 At this point, it's six one, half dozen the other, although that may 
 change with time.  Kamailio and SER appear to be joining forces.  But 
 it's mostly a matter of your affinity with the community and the various 
 political forces and personalities at this point.
 
 I personally am sticking with the Kamailio camp because I think they are 
 doing a better job of creating a stable business environment around the 
 project and doing things that are important to big-name adopters who are 
 far more concerned about having something they can lean on than about 
 coding, coding and coding.
 
 On the other hand, the OpenSIPS camp has proposed some very radical and 
 potentially beneficial architectural changes if they are actually 
 carried through.
 
 Still, at this point in time, six one  half-dozen the other, especially 
 if you're talking about the core and stateful (tm module) 
 functionality needed for things that fall under the rubric of 
 front-ending Asterisk.
 
 Steve Edwards wrote:
 
 One of the above is frequently used to front-end Asterisk.

 I used OpenSER to front-end a farm of Asterisk servers and was very 
 happy with it. The ability to take a box out of service or to route a 
 specific DNIS to a box for testing rocks.

 Since OpenSER has died (I don't care about the 
 politics/personalities/trademarks), Kamailio and OpenSIPS have risen 
 from the ashes. What are you using? (I'm still using OpenSER 
 1.3.1-notls.)

 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] SER, OpenSER, Kamailio, OpenSIPS -- what are you using?

2008-12-12 Thread jonathan augenstine
Have you checked out OpenSBC (www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/*OpenSBC)?*

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.comwrote:

 One of the above is frequently used to front-end Asterisk.

 I used OpenSER to front-end a farm of Asterisk servers and was very happy
 with it. The ability to take a box out of service or to route a specific
 DNIS to a box for testing rocks.

 Since OpenSER has died (I don't care about the
 politics/personalities/trademarks), Kamailio and OpenSIPS have risen from
 the ashes. What are you using? (I'm still using OpenSER 1.3.1-notls.)

 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] SER, OpenSER, Kamailio, OpenSIPS -- what are you using?

2008-12-12 Thread Alex Balashov
Also, both projects are open source, so they can (and do) take patches 
from each other both for bug fixes and for new features.

The smart project will take the good stuff from the other while 
simultaneously doing a better job of providing a commercial and 
political ecosystem that leads to serious adoption and the creation of 
new value.

 From my point of view, some of the most innovative contributors of code 
are on the OpenSIPS side (mostly the folks at the disposal of 
Bogdan-Andrei Iancu/voice-system.ro), but most of the judicious and 
sophisticated project management talent from the OpenSER group stayed 
with Kamailio, including Daniel-Constantin Mierla, Elena-Ramona Modroiu, 
Henning Westerholt, and Juha Heinanen - some of the other great minds 
that are strategically essential.

But arguing about which group is a better group of people to work with 
is just going to provoke a needless ad hominem flame war and further 
bitterness and strife.

Alex Balashov wrote:

 But, just to be clear, the answer to your question - or more precisely, 
 the answer to the question underlying your question (WHY are you using 
 what you're using?) - is fundamentally political in its essence.
 
 Most aspects of the case for one or the other have little to do with 
 technology.  At this time.
 
 Alex Balashov wrote:
 
 At this point, it's six one, half dozen the other, although that may 
 change with time.  Kamailio and SER appear to be joining forces.  But 
 it's mostly a matter of your affinity with the community and the 
 various political forces and personalities at this point.

 I personally am sticking with the Kamailio camp because I think they 
 are doing a better job of creating a stable business environment 
 around the project and doing things that are important to big-name 
 adopters who are far more concerned about having something they can 
 lean on than about coding, coding and coding.

 On the other hand, the OpenSIPS camp has proposed some very radical 
 and potentially beneficial architectural changes if they are actually 
 carried through.

 Still, at this point in time, six one  half-dozen the other, 
 especially if you're talking about the core and stateful (tm module) 
 functionality needed for things that fall under the rubric of 
 front-ending Asterisk.

 Steve Edwards wrote:

 One of the above is frequently used to front-end Asterisk.

 I used OpenSER to front-end a farm of Asterisk servers and was very 
 happy with it. The ability to take a box out of service or to route a 
 specific DNIS to a box for testing rocks.

 Since OpenSER has died (I don't care about the 
 politics/personalities/trademarks), Kamailio and OpenSIPS have risen 
 from the ashes. What are you using? (I'm still using OpenSER 
 1.3.1-notls.)

 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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