Re: [asterisk-users] SIP phone recommendation (used to be: no subject)
I'd go with Polycom all the way. We have a number of different types of phones in use, or that we've worked with, including Grandstream, SIpura and Atacom, and the quality difference with the Polycom phones is astounding. On 10/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies to the list for not having entered a subject line in the email. Thanks On Oct 29, 2007, at 1:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a client that needs to setup about 80 desk phones (about 50 in one location and about another 30 in 5 different locations). Which brand/model would you recommend. We were personally thinking in recommending either Cisco, Aastra, Polycom, or Snom, for we've heard great things about them. However, having no real experience with them makes it hard in recommending one to our customer. The only experience we've had is a very frustrating one trying to load the IP software on a Cisco 7970G and so we assume that if we have to go through that for all 80 phones, we'll probably commit suicide :) Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Barry D. Hassler President, HCST http://www.hcst.net/ 937-427-9000 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] SIP phone recommendation (used to be: no subject)
Michael Graves wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:01:38 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, just general office use. They are a real-state construction
company, so the phones will get some heavy use since most of the
phones are going to sales associates.
Now, one of the things we are most interested in are:
1) Asterisk compatibility
2) Mass provisioning
3) Remote management
4) Excellent audio quality (I know there are many factors involved,
but would like to rule out the phone set itself)
5) Robustness
6) Vendor reputation and warranties
We have used Linksys 941s in the past and think they're pretty good.
However, we've only used them in 3-5 phones office environments.
We've also used the Polycoms IP 501 and 650s. They seem good, but
sometimes the users complain about the audio being a bit weird in the
sense that, probably, the silence detection may give the user a
feeling that the line dropped. Then again, we've only used these once
(one client installation for each), so for practical purposes, we
don't really have any larger quantity real-life experience.
For my money it's Polycom every time. It's great hardware. Meets all
your requirements.
Granted I have only used Polycom phones, but I would second that vote.
My experience with provisioning is that it isn't necessarily hard but it
can be time consuming. Your best bet is to get your firmware extracted
and then go through the sip.cfg line by line with the admin guide handy
and tweak as you go. Then repeat with the default phone.cfg file. I use
a shell script (which I'll share with anyone who wants it) that makes
adding additional phones a snap. I pass it the name of the default
template file, the extension number and the MAC address of the phone and
it creates the MAC.cfg and phone{extension}.cfg files.
I thought that silence supression was specifically disallowed with
Asterisk? Something about timing requirements not being met.
I can't say for certain, but that may not be true any more. I came
across a setting called internal_timing that may allow for the use of
silence suppression. If anyone can comment on that I'd be interested to
hear what that setting does. This is what I found from Google:
http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=15577
http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5374
-Dave
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Re: [asterisk-users] SIP phone recommendation (used to be: no subject)
My apologies to the list for not having entered a subject line in the email. Thanks On Oct 29, 2007, at 1:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a client that needs to setup about 80 desk phones (about 50 in one location and about another 30 in 5 different locations). Which brand/model would you recommend. We were personally thinking in recommending either Cisco, Aastra, Polycom, or Snom, for we've heard great things about them. However, having no real experience with them makes it hard in recommending one to our customer. The only experience we've had is a very frustrating one trying to load the IP software on a Cisco 7970G and so we assume that if we have to go through that for all 80 phones, we'll probably commit suicide :) Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] SIP phone recommendation (used to be: no subject)
Well, just general office use. They are a real-state construction company, so the phones will get some heavy use since most of the phones are going to sales associates. Now, one of the things we are most interested in are: 1) Asterisk compatibility 2) Mass provisioning 3) Remote management 4) Excellent audio quality (I know there are many factors involved, but would like to rule out the phone set itself) 5) Robustness 6) Vendor reputation and warranties We have used Linksys 941s in the past and think they're pretty good. However, we've only used them in 3-5 phones office environments. We've also used the Polycoms IP 501 and 650s. They seem good, but sometimes the users complain about the audio being a bit weird in the sense that, probably, the silence detection may give the user a feeling that the line dropped. Then again, we've only used these once (one client installation for each), so for practical purposes, we don't really have any larger quantity real-life experience. Thanks On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Eric Chamberlain wrote: What is the use case? Linksys, Polycom, Snom, and Aastra all have their strengths and weaknesses. -- Eric Chamberlain, CISSP Chief Technical Officer Voxilla - http://voxilla.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:42 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] (no subject) Hi all, We have a client that needs to setup about 80 desk phones (about 50 in one location and about another 30 in 5 different locations). Which brand/model would you recommend. We were personally thinking in recommending either Cisco, Aastra, Polycom, or Snom, for we've heard great things about them. However, having no real experience with them makes it hard in recommending one to our customer. The only experience we've had is a very frustrating one trying to load the IP software on a Cisco 7970G and so we assume that if we have to go through that for all 80 phones, we'll probably commit suicide :) Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] SIP phone recommendation (used to be: no subject)
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:01:38 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just general office use. They are a real-state construction company, so the phones will get some heavy use since most of the phones are going to sales associates. Now, one of the things we are most interested in are: 1) Asterisk compatibility 2) Mass provisioning 3) Remote management 4) Excellent audio quality (I know there are many factors involved, but would like to rule out the phone set itself) 5) Robustness 6) Vendor reputation and warranties We have used Linksys 941s in the past and think they're pretty good. However, we've only used them in 3-5 phones office environments. We've also used the Polycoms IP 501 and 650s. They seem good, but sometimes the users complain about the audio being a bit weird in the sense that, probably, the silence detection may give the user a feeling that the line dropped. Then again, we've only used these once (one client installation for each), so for practical purposes, we don't really have any larger quantity real-life experience. For my money it's Polycom every time. It's great hardware. Meets all your requirements. I thought that silence supression was specifically disallowed with Asterisk? Something about timing requirements not being met. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
