[asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Olivier
Hi,

1. Do you have any experience with receiving incoming SMS on an analog or
ISDN landline ?
How can then you differentiate an SMS call from a voice call ?
From http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms it seems the way to
tell an inbound call is an SMS one is to read the callerid number but does
this still apply with calls coming from cellphones ?

2. Is SMS service compatible with PRI lines ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 1. Do you have any experience with receiving incoming SMS on an analog or
 ISDN landline ? How can then you differentiate an SMS call from a voice
 call ? From http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms it seems
 the way to tell an inbound call is an SMS one is to read the callerid
 number but does this still apply with calls coming from cellphones ?

Yes, typically there is only one SMSC that can send you SMS on a fixed 
line; look at its Caller ID to identify a SMS call.

Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Olivier
2010/9/6 Philipp von Klitzing klitz...@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

 Hi!

  1. Do you have any experience with receiving incoming SMS on an analog or
  ISDN landline ? How can then you differentiate an SMS call from a voice
  call ? From http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms it seems
  the way to tell an inbound call is an SMS one is to read the callerid
  number but does this still apply with calls coming from cellphones ?

 Yes, typically there is only one SMSC that can send you SMS on a fixed
 line; look at its Caller ID to identify a SMS call.


Even when the call is coming from a cellphone ?


 Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Administrator TOOTAI
Le 06/09/2010 15:10, Olivier a écrit :
 Hi,
Hello

 1. Do you have any experience with receiving incoming SMS on an analog 
 or ISDN landline ?
 How can then you differentiate an SMS call from a voice call ?
 From http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms it seems the 
 way to tell an inbound call is an SMS one is to read the callerid 
 number but does this still apply with calls coming from cellphones ?

 2. Is SMS service compatible with PRI lines ?

As stated by Philipp, SMSC is unique. However -in France at least- SMS 
sended to landlines are altered and sended as voice messages by the 
operators. For messages from Orange you will recognize that's a SMS as 
the callerID is the Orange SMSCs one. For SFR no luck, Bouygues don't 
tested.

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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Olivier
2010/9/6 Administrator TOOTAI ad...@tootai.net

 Le 06/09/2010 15:10, Olivier a écrit :
  Hi,
 Hello
 
  1. Do you have any experience with receiving incoming SMS on an analog
  or ISDN landline ?
  How can then you differentiate an SMS call from a voice call ?
  From http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms it seems the
  way to tell an inbound call is an SMS one is to read the callerid
  number but does this still apply with calls coming from cellphones ?
 
  2. Is SMS service compatible with PRI lines ?

  For SFR no luck,

What do you mean by that ?
That SMS from cellphones cannot reach landlines or are not using a unique
SMSC callerid which makes them unrecognizable ?


 Bouygues don't
 tested.

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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 Yes, typically there is only one SMSC that can send you SMS on a fixed
 line; look at its Caller ID to identify a SMS call. 
 
 Even when the call is coming from a cellphone ? 

A SMS is not really a call (at least not in the mobile world), and the 
cellphone cannot directly send a SMS to a landline phone. Instead it 
hands the SMS to the SMSC of the mobile carrier, which in turn hands it 
over to the SMSC of the landline carrier.

Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Administrator TOOTAI
Le 06/09/2010 17:39, Olivier a écrit :


 2010/9/6 Administrator TOOTAI ad...@tootai.net mailto:ad...@tootai.net

 Le 06/09/2010 15:10, Olivier a écrit :
  Hi,
 Hello
 
  1. Do you have any experience with receiving incoming SMS on an
 analog
  or ISDN landline ?
  How can then you differentiate an SMS call from a voice call ?
  From http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms it
 seems the
  way to tell an inbound call is an SMS one is to read the callerid
  number but does this still apply with calls coming from cellphones ?
 
  2. Is SMS service compatible with PRI lines ?

  For SFR no luck,

 What do you mean by that ?
 That SMS from cellphones cannot reach landlines or are not using a 
 unique SMSC callerid which makes them unrecognizable ?
No unique SMSC. In the voice message they send you, it's You receive an 
SMS from John Doe, press 1 if you want to listen the message Very funny 
when you have your voicemail activated or fax detection before voice :-(

The callerID is the one from the SMS sender but this means nothing as 
you can send SMSs from a ... landline! They are so stupid ...
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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Randy R
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Administrator TOOTAI ad...@tootai.net wrote:
 As stated by Philipp, SMSC is unique. However -in France at least- SMS
 sended to landlines are altered and sended as voice messages by the
 operators. For messages from Orange you will recognize that's a SMS as
 the callerID is the Orange SMSCs one. For SFR no luck, Bouygues don't
 tested.

Actually, in France, if the landline has the extra billed SMS service,
the SMS is sent as described by others. There is an extra digit at the
end for a kind of mailbox. This dates from when some phones had
multiple inboxes for SMS. I used that digit to send difference command
codes to my asterisk box, such as call me back, etc.

I think if the mailbox was 0, the message was read, or perhaps if you
didn't subscribe the line to SMS it was the case.

Some of this may have changed, but when I has asterks and a fixed-line
SMS service from France Télécom, that's the way it worked.

/r

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Re: [asterisk-users] SMS and fixed land lines

2010-09-06 Thread Administrator TOOTAI
Le 06/09/2010 19:31, Randy R a écrit :
 [...]
 Some of this may have changed, but when I has asterks and a fixed-line
 SMS service from France Télécom, that's the way it worked.

End of 2009 SMS sended to landlines where easy to treat, we even setup 
an SMS2Mail gw. Those days, we only treat SMSs from Orange/France 
Telecom as they SMSC has is own callerID.

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