Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
Just setup a throwaway site at http://drop.io Takes 1 minute to setup and can then be allowed for anonomous downloading for anyone who wants the files. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC > Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 2:23 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture > > It must accept attachments, or we wouldn't get all these HTML messages, > right? I think that's how HTML messages get through is attached :) > Definitely not sure though. > > On another note, I heard a rumor a while back that messages over 40k > might be held for moderation? > > Moj > > Drew Gibson wrote: > > James Finstrom wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like > >> to revive this. > >> > >> - -- > >> James Finstrom > >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >> > >> > iD8DBQFH3I8qdloC7YyaIOoRAlAjAJ9Hp+3SS2Z8179HecWIETp4RVDzWQCeMiz > p > >> fW2JPZdYl/uxG1ziUwYnHGo= > >> =QPbv > >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > >> > > > > Hi James, > > > > I have a copy of the prompts. Will the list accept attachments? > > > > regards, > > > > Drew > > > > > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
It must accept attachments, or we wouldn't get all these HTML messages, right? I think that's how HTML messages get through is attached :) Definitely not sure though. On another note, I heard a rumor a while back that messages over 40k might be held for moderation? Moj Drew Gibson wrote: > James Finstrom wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like >> to revive this. >> >> - -- >> James Finstrom >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFH3I8qdloC7YyaIOoRAlAjAJ9Hp+3SS2Z8179HecWIETp4RVDzWQCeMizp >> fW2JPZdYl/uxG1ziUwYnHGo= >> =QPbv >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> >> ___ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> > > Hi James, > > I have a copy of the prompts. Will the list accept attachments? > > regards, > > Drew > > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
James Finstrom wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like > to revive this. > > - -- > James Finstrom > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFH3I8qdloC7YyaIOoRAlAjAJ9Hp+3SS2Z8179HecWIETp4RVDzWQCeMizp > fW2JPZdYl/uxG1ziUwYnHGo= > =QPbv > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > Hi James, I have a copy of the prompts. Will the list accept attachments? regards, Drew -- Drew Gibson Systems Administrator OANDA Corporation www.oanda.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture.... (was: Re: asterisk-users Digest, Vol 44, Issue 49)
You could accept as the "passcode" the caller punching in their own phone#, then checking that against your whitelist. Lets associates get past the challenge when using someone else's phone, without their remembering some arbitrary passcode. And strangers or barred old associates who abuse it can get an earful about how you're suing them for wire fraud. Preferably after you transfer them to an extension that plays a recording asking for their current calling#, so "you" can call them right back, and then the script threatens them. Automatically emailing your district attorney with their contact info optional. On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 12:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:00 + > From: Horwich IT Services (Godwin Stewart) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:50:50 -0500, Lyle Giese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I just forward them to one of those two extensions. If callerid > worked > > more reliably I would automate it. But I get a lot of caller id > failures > > on my incoming POTS lines, esp when calling in from my cell phone. > > The way I worked around this problem was to give a passcode to people > I want > to hear from even if they conceal CLI. > > If an inbound call comes in without CLI (or with CLI but the number is > in > my blocklist for that matter), I forward it to a recorded message > saying > "Caller ID screening is in operation. Please press 1 if you are an > authorized caller". When the user complies, they're prompted for the > passcode. If it's correct, then the call is forwarded to my extension. > > Those I do want to hear from are not just blown off, they have a > chance to > get through to me regardless of the screening. Teleslime doesn't, and > they've paid for the call anyway. > > -- > Godwin Stewart - Horwich IT services -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
James Finstrom wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I realize there are ways of doing it but I am kinda fond of the loops > etc of the telemarketer torture... > Same here, I want to keep them on the line as long as possible, thinking that they may eventually get to someone. My average loop time has been around 3 minutes 30 seconds. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I realize there are ways of doing it but I am kinda fond of the loops etc of the telemarketer torture... For those who are unaware: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Telemarketer+Torture Lee Jenkins wrote: > James Finstrom wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously >> like to revive this. >> >> - -- > > I wrote one a while back that uses Cepstral TTS, but the mechanics > are simple. > > When a telemarketer calls, I say "hmmm, that sounds pretty good, > can you hold for a sec?" > > Telemarketer gets transferred to a context that plays a cepstral > voice saying "You have just been added to our Do not call list. > Please add us to yours. Further attempts to contact us from your > number are being recorded". Then adds the CID to a SQLite database > and simply hangs up. > > The number is stored in a database at that point and if they call > again they get Ceptral William saying "Sorry, you have been added > to our do not call database. "You have been asked previously to > place us on your do not call list. Each attempt to contact us by > your number are being recorded and may be used in legal > proceedings." Hang up. > > I've only had a couple actually call back. One called back about 6 > times and my guess was that he was showing co-workers/managers the > implementation we put in place or just got a kick out of it. I > just shot off a letter to my Attorney General's office with the log > and never heard from them again. > - -- James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. All Rhino products are made in America, 100% Money Back Guarantee, and have a 5 Year warranty. Quality and Toughness built in!! Phone: 1-800-785-7073 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 IP: asterisk.rhinoequipment.com ~ FWD: 633686 THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and its attachments from all computers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH3USEdloC7YyaIOoRAuykAKCBQcF/1vgoQt6A/1ztrHiy3kG8fwCeJbnt s2W1iQPJYwahFzHK7L9Cmo0= =LKi3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
James Finstrom wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like > to revive this. > > - -- I wrote one a while back that uses Cepstral TTS, but the mechanics are simple. When a telemarketer calls, I say "hmmm, that sounds pretty good, can you hold for a sec?" Telemarketer gets transferred to a context that plays a cepstral voice saying "You have just been added to our Do not call list. Please add us to yours. Further attempts to contact us from your number are being recorded". Then adds the CID to a SQLite database and simply hangs up. The number is stored in a database at that point and if they call again they get Ceptral William saying "Sorry, you have been added to our do not call database. "You have been asked previously to place us on your do not call list. Each attempt to contact us by your number are being recorded and may be used in legal proceedings." Hang up. I've only had a couple actually call back. One called back about 6 times and my guess was that he was showing co-workers/managers the implementation we put in place or just got a kick out of it. I just shot off a letter to my Attorney General's office with the log and never heard from them again. -- Warm Regards, Lee "Everything I needed to learn in life, I learned selling encyclopedias door to door." ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
I used to deal easily with telemarketer calls way before I ever got into asterisk. No hardware, no dial plan, no coding, no recording and less disk-thrashing than any of the previous systems. I'd just let them get started, set the phone down and continue what I was doing before they called. /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
I have simply gotten rid of most of the telemarketer calls by simply making them press 1 or wait to talk to me and they give up almost always. on Sunday 03/16/2008 Horwich IT Services (Godwin Stewart)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:50:50 -0500, Lyle Giese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just forward them to one of those two extensions. If callerid worked > > more reliably I would automate it. But I get a lot of caller id failures > > on my incoming POTS lines, esp when calling in from my cell phone. > > The way I worked around this problem was to give a passcode to people I want > to hear from even if they conceal CLI. > > If an inbound call comes in without CLI (or with CLI but the number is in > my blocklist for that matter), I forward it to a recorded message saying > "Caller ID screening is in operation. Please press 1 if you are an > authorized caller". When the user complies, they're prompted for the > passcode. If it's correct, then the call is forwarded to my extension. > > Those I do want to hear from are not just blown off, they have a chance to > get through to me regardless of the screening. Teleslime doesn't, and > they've paid for the call anyway. > > -- > Godwin Stewart - Horwich IT services > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
James Finstrom wrote: > Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like to revive this. I created a simple "hold forever" loop, thus: [tele_loop] exten => s,1,Answer() exten => s,2,Set(DEVSTATE(Custom:telepark)=INUSE) exten => s,3,WaitMusicOnHold(15) exten => s,4,Wait(1) exten => s,5,Playback(pls-hold-while-try) exten => s,6,Wait(0.25) exten => s,7,Goto,3 exten => h,1,Set(DEVSTATE(Custom:telepark)=NOT_INUSE) exten => h,n,Hangup() ; If anything goes wrong, quit the loop exten => i,1,Set(DEVSTATE(Custom:telepark)=NOT_INUSE) exten => i,n,Hangup() When I get a call from a telemarketer, I either manually dump them into the loop (via an extension defined elsewhere) , or I can drop them into it using CLID. This plays music for 15 seconds, then asks them to wait while we try to put you through, repeat... The 1 second gap between the music ending & the announcement beginning is designed to make them think someone's answered. I may need to tune it up to 2 seconds, I'm not sure yet. The devstate Custom:telepark is used so I can monitor if someone's in the loop using a lamp on my phone :) It's not perfect: the loop can hold an indefinite number of calls, but the lamp goes out when the first one exits. Mind you, having the lamp causes its own problems: I tend to find that instead of getting on with my work (which was the plan), I end up timing how long they wait until they give up (record: approx. 18 minutes) instead. So maybe I need to make Asterisk put some tracking information into a database, so I can just run a report at the end of each day :-) Cheers, Ade. (PS: The pls-hold-while-try is either a standard Asterisk sound, or comes with the Asterisk-Addons package, I forget which.) (PPS: I use Asterisk 1.4 with the DEVSTATE patch applied) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 13/03/2008 11:31 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:50:50 -0500, Lyle Giese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just forward them to one of those two extensions. If callerid worked > more reliably I would automate it. But I get a lot of caller id failures > on my incoming POTS lines, esp when calling in from my cell phone. The way I worked around this problem was to give a passcode to people I want to hear from even if they conceal CLI. If an inbound call comes in without CLI (or with CLI but the number is in my blocklist for that matter), I forward it to a recorded message saying "Caller ID screening is in operation. Please press 1 if you are an authorized caller". When the user complies, they're prompted for the passcode. If it's correct, then the call is forwarded to my extension. Those I do want to hear from are not just blown off, they have a chance to get through to me regardless of the screening. Teleslime doesn't, and they've paid for the call anyway. -- Godwin Stewart - Horwich IT services ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
James Finstrom wrote: > Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like > to revive this. > Weasels and Monkeys work well for this. I put up one extension that uses Monkeysintro then Monkeys and loops. The other extension uses somethingwrong then weasels and again loops back around. I just forward them to one of those two extensions. If callerid worked more reliably I would automate it. But I get a lot of caller id failures on my incoming POTS lines, esp when calling in from my cell phone. Lyle ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Telemarketer Torture....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone have the telemarketer torture prompts? I would seriously like to revive this. - -- James Finstrom -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH3I8qdloC7YyaIOoRAlAjAJ9Hp+3SS2Z8179HecWIETp4RVDzWQCeMizp fW2JPZdYl/uxG1ziUwYnHGo= =QPbv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telemarketer Torture
Very good. I made a much smaller one that just goes in an endless loop, no way out but to hang up. I figured telemarketer are too stupid to notice the same prompts over and over. I might use yours. Did you put the .gsm recording some place we can get them? My brother has the BEST solution for sales people. He makes an appointment with them to come out and gives an address across the street. It really wastes a real estate salesman or house painter's time to drive out to a dead end. Keeps em off the phone too. --- Steve Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello-- > > I submitted of extensions.conf that contains my "telemarketer > torture" > menus, last week sometime to the mailing list. > > I got back a note from the mailing list machinery, stating that it > was > too big, and would be subject to approval. No such approval came, I > guess. Either I missed it, or it didn't rate, or the moderator just > plain hasn't gotten around to it yet. > = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Telemarketer Torture
Hello-- I submitted of extensions.conf that contains my "telemarketer torture" menus, last week sometime to the mailing list. I got back a note from the mailing list machinery, stating that it was too big, and would be subject to approval. No such approval came, I guess. Either I missed it, or it didn't rate, or the moderator just plain hasn't gotten around to it yet. So, I went and installed it on the Asterisk Wiki. Probably better that way anyway. That way, you won't have to scroll around 90K of menus and scripts if you are not interested. A little tongue-in-cheek, it basically is meant for the average telemarketer. It almost rates as telemarketer baiting, but really, it won't keep them long enough to even rate mediocre for that purpose. I cast the whole thing in the light of instruction on how NOT to design menus, and as such it serves as somewhat a good example of a bad example, if you get my drift. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Telemarketer+Torture Hope you enjoy it. murf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
