Re: [asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

2010-10-09 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 05:51:48PM +0400, Sevana Oy wrote:
 One quick clarification please... With Fluke ACEs you measure MOS according 
 G.107, E-model, right?

Don't know if it is g.107 but it has to be something similar if it
isn't. I'm personally more interessted in the network statitics.

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[asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

2010-10-08 Thread Sevana Oy
Hi,

How do you typically test voice quality in Asterisk? For example if you like to 
do load testing, or monitor voice quality and get notified if certain calls had 
bad quality for proactive maintenance?

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Sevana Oy
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Re: [asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

2010-10-08 Thread Bert Van Kets
 The professional way is to do a series of test calls, play a reference
file and record the audio at the incoming side. You then use both files
to calculate a MOS score. This method is used by telco's to do quality
checks.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mean_opinion_score
http://voip.about.com/od/voipbasics/a/MOS.htm

Bert

On 08/10/2010 11:12, Sevana Oy wrote:
 Hi,
  
 How do you typically test voice quality in Asterisk? For example if
 you like to do load testing, or monitor voice quality and get notified
 if certain calls had bad quality for proactive maintenance?
  
 Thank you!
  
 Best Regards,
 Sevana Oy
 http://www.sevana.fi
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Re: [asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:24:11PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  The professional way is to do a series of test calls, play a reference
 file and record the audio at the incoming side. You then use both files
 to calculate a MOS score. This method is used by telco's to do quality
 checks.

Take a look at the website mentioned in GPs post. He/they already know
this, I guess it is a fishing expedition for competitors :)

We don't do the test calls method, but use inline probes (Fluke ACEs)
that analyze all traffic and give a MOS score to SIP calls and save
network statistics per call (can be retrieved from the RTCP reports in
asterisk). These probes and the analyzer software aren't bug free and
perfect but give a good indication of all historic calls. Once a problem
is spotted we move to test calls to trace the problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

2010-10-08 Thread Jason Aarons (US)
Those boxes run around $50k USD, I've only seen them once back in the late 
1990s.

At work for customer consulting we have very expensive site licenses for 
Prognosis IPT Assessor which generate great looking pdf reports.

We also use Cisco IOS IP SLA however it doesn't have a reporting mechanism.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

The professional way is to do a series of test calls, play a reference file and 
record the audio at the incoming side. You then use both files to calculate a 
MOS score. This method is used by telco's to do quality checks.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mean_opinion_score
http://voip.about.com/od/voipbasics/a/MOS.htm

Bert

On 08/10/2010 11:12, Sevana Oy wrote:
Hi,

How do you typically test voice quality in Asterisk? For example if you like to 
do load testing, or monitor voice quality and get notified if certain calls had 
bad quality for proactive maintenance?

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Sevana Oy
http://www.sevana.fi


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Re: [asterisk-users] Voice quality assessment in Asterisk

2010-10-08 Thread Sevana Oy
One quick clarification please... With Fluke ACEs you measure MOS according 
G.107, E-model, right?

Thanks a lot to all who replied and will reply!

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 On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:24:11PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  The professional way is to do a series of test calls, play a reference
 file and record the audio at the incoming side. You then use both files
 to calculate a MOS score. This method is used by telco's to do quality
 checks.

 Take a look at the website mentioned in GPs post. He/they already know
 this, I guess it is a fishing expedition for competitors :)

 We don't do the test calls method, but use inline probes (Fluke ACEs)
 that analyze all traffic and give a MOS score to SIP calls and save
 network statistics per call (can be retrieved from the RTCP reports in
 asterisk). These probes and the analyzer software aren't bug free and
 perfect but give a good indication of all historic calls. Once a problem
 is spotted we move to test calls to trace the problem.

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