Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
I'm in Europe (yeah, that does matter when choosing a good phone!) .. Some of my (and my customers') favorites: - Polycom (pretty much all of them) - Thomson ST2030 - Siemens Gigaset C450 IP dect (for wireless phones) cheers, stoffell --- http://www.electromarket.be ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
On Aug 31, 2007 7:11 PM, William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? My experiences are with Polycom (ip500) and the Linksys/Cisco SPA94?. I like both but they are different. The best suggestion on this thread was to pick 4 and show them to the cust. Last time I was at a VoIP convention, there was a stand with about 50 models of phones to try from all the main manufacturers. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Ditto !!! - Original Message - From: Bill Hackensack To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Wow! That is a good question. I can't believe no one has ever asked that before. Seriously, before letting someone join this mailing list, it should ask them a simple question: When you don't know the answer to something, do you: a) blindly ask hundreds of people with no regard to whether it was recently discussed b) search your favorite search engine for an answer first. We all know what this poster did. I realize my messages may seem rude and obnoxious, but let's face it, I'm just saying what the rest of you are thinking. I learned by reading, reading, and reading. The answer to almost every question is out there, you just have to look. It irritates me when other people don't even try to do research first and just want someone to spoon feed them the information. I wonder how many of those people are being paid for their knowledge, when in fact, they know nothing and are counting on the community to do their work for them. Anyway, that's enough for my rant for today. I'll leave with one thing: www.google.com - it's amazing what you can find On Aug 31, 2007 12:11 PM, William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
strike out stable on the cisco phones. they are not stable. On 1/7/08, Tim Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cisco 7960's: (SIPified) 1. Cheap 2. 6 lines is plenty 3. simple to config 4. stable On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:03 PM, William Herrera wrote: Alright, enough. At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop. First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom, Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am not as you might think I am. I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as intended... Case closed. WH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cook Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this, how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be? Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application, you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**. People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager, CEO and their lawyer. Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a lab. Learn. - dbc. From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
That's like asking 'what is the best car in the world and why?' If you need to haul lots of people, you buy a minivan. If you live in the US and need to haul lots of people, you buy an SUV. If you need speed, to buy a motorcycle. If you need.. You need to decide what features are required, desired and how much you can spend on each phone. When I bought handsets, my primary requirement was that it had to be 100% remotely manageable and network booted/configd due to the auto provisioning software I wrote. I stuck to the Polycoms, Cisco, Linksys and Sipura brands. Within each brand will be several phones with distinct feature sets. Just figure out which one is required. My suggestion, find 4 phones you think will work and take them to the customer to choose. On Aug 31, 2007, at 1:11 PM, William Herrera wrote: I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
That question cannot be answered as everyone has their own perferences and considerations. That said, I really like Polycom's especially the higher end models. I also like the Aastra 480i CT for a DECT cordless. Michael --Original Message Text--- From: William Herrera Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:11:58 -0400 I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Here we go again Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=Good+IP+phone+site%3Alists.digium.combtnG=Google+Search - Original Message - From: William Herrera To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant -- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Wow! That is a good question. I can't believe no one has ever asked that before. Seriously, before letting someone join this mailing list, it should ask them a simple question: When you don't know the answer to something, do you: a) blindly ask hundreds of people with no regard to whether it was recently discussed b) search your favorite search engine for an answer first. We all know what this poster did. I realize my messages may seem rude and obnoxious, but let's face it, I'm just saying what the rest of you are thinking. I learned by reading, reading, and reading. The answer to almost every question is out there, you just have to look. It irritates me when other people don't even try to do research first and just want someone to spoon feed them the information. I wonder how many of those people are being paid for their knowledge, when in fact, they know nothing and are counting on the community to do their work for them. Anyway, that's enough for my rant for today. I'll leave with one thing: www.google.com - it's amazing what you can find On Aug 31, 2007 12:11 PM, William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. *William Herrera*** *LAN/WAN Technical Consultant* ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
I like my Aastra 480i a lot. It has buttons with numbers on them. What I am guessing you are really asking is 'what's a really good phone that's really cheap'. PaulH On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 14:11 -0400, William Herrera wrote: I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this, how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be? Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application, you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**. People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager, CEO and their lawyer. Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a lab. Learn. - dbc. From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Alright, enough. At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop. First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom, Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am not as you might think I am. I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as intended... Case closed. WH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cook Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this, how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be? Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application, you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**. People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager, CEO and their lawyer. Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a lab. Learn. - dbc. From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Cisco 7960's: (SIPified) 1. Cheap 2. 6 lines is plenty 3. simple to config 4. stable On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:03 PM, William Herrera wrote: Alright, enough. At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop. First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom, Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am not as you might think I am. I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as intended... Case closed. WH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cook Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this, how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be? Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application, you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**. People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager, CEO and their lawyer. Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a lab. Learn. - dbc. From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
But With all that experience you shouldn't have a issue working out what IP phone to get? I have only been in the Voip industry 3 months now and i personally know what phone to supply to what client, Just through testing and playing around with different phones. Anyway, To answer your question I like Most Cisco phones, Cisco would be first preference and then a Linksys SPA942 which are quite nice. Regards Kevin William Herrera wrote: Alright, enough. At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop. First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom, Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am not as you might think I am. I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as intended... Case closed. WH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cook Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this, how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be? Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application, you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**. People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager, CEO and their lawyer. Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a lab. Learn. - dbc. From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. William Herrera LAN/WAN Technical Consultant ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2767 (20080106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Mail Call antivirus software, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kev S wrote: Cisco would be first preference and then a Linksys SPA942 which are quite nice. Yeah, Linksys adding the backlight to the SPAs made all the difference for me. Huge amount of config options for setting it up - you'll usually only need 2% of it, but it has proven useful for certain edge scenarios. The Linksys are obviously a great deal cheaper than the Cisco's but seem to perform well. For anything conferencing I'd go for the polycom kit. - -- Kind Regards, Matt Riddell Director ___ http://www.venturevoip.com (Great new VoIP end to end solution) http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://www.venturevoip.com/newrssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgcVxDQNt8rg0Kp4RAlQFAJ0aufYRna1GHFbSbDgT/k0MK9SYiACeMkFN Wvx1Nvcn9Ued3prZwytIqOI= =qDEH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users