Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-09 Thread stoffell
I'm in Europe (yeah, that does matter when choosing a good phone!) ..

Some of my (and my customers') favorites:

- Polycom (pretty much all of them)
- Thomson ST2030
- Siemens Gigaset C450 IP dect (for wireless phones)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-09 Thread randulo
On Aug 31, 2007 7:11 PM, William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

My experiences are with Polycom (ip500) and the Linksys/Cisco SPA94?.
I like both but they are different. The best suggestion on this thread
was to pick 4 and show them to the cust. Last time I was at a VoIP
convention, there was a stand with about 50 models of phones to try
from all the main manufacturers.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-07 Thread Dovid B
Ditto !!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Hackensack 
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?


  Wow!  That is a good question.  I can't believe no one has ever asked that 
before.  

  Seriously, before letting someone join this mailing list, it should ask them 
a simple question:

  When you don't know the answer to something, do you:
  a) blindly ask hundreds of people with no regard to whether it was recently 
discussed
  b) search your favorite search engine for an answer first.

  We all know what this poster did.

  I realize my messages may seem rude and obnoxious, but let's face it, I'm 
just saying what the rest of you are thinking.  I learned by reading, reading, 
and reading.  The answer to almost every question is out there, you just have 
to look.  It irritates me when other people don't even try to do research first 
and just want someone to spoon feed them the information.  I wonder how many of 
those people are being paid for their knowledge, when in fact, they know 
nothing and are counting on the community to do their work for them. 

  Anyway, that's enough for my rant for today.

  I'll leave with one thing:

  www.google.com - it's amazing what you can find

  On Aug 31, 2007 12:11 PM, William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.





William Herrera

LAN/WAN Technical Consultant


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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-07 Thread C F
strike out stable on the cisco phones. they are not stable.

On 1/7/08, Tim Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cisco 7960's:  (SIPified)
 1. Cheap
 2. 6 lines is plenty
 3. simple to config
 4. stable

 On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:03 PM, William Herrera wrote:

  Alright, enough.
  At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one
  but I
  feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never
  stop.
  First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work
  for the
  Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with
  Polycom,
  Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been
  doing this
  now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net),
  so I am
  not as you might think I am.
  I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not
  intended
  for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this
  useless notes
  
  If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the
  question
  (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as
  intended...
  Case closed.
 
  WH
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
  Cook
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
 
  Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means
  you are
  selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like
  this,
  how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?
 
  Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular
  application,
  you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate
  amounts of
  learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience
  will
  show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
  People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they
  expect
  100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
  yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your
  manager,
  CEO and their lawyer.
 
  Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research.
  Build a
  lab. Learn.
 
  - dbc.
 
  From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:
  To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
  asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 
  I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.
 
  Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?
 
  Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.
 
  William Herrera
  LAN/WAN Technical Consultant
 
 
 
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[asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread William Herrera
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

 

 

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LAN/WAN Technical Consultant

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Tim Connolly

That's like asking 'what is the best car in the world and why?'

If you need to haul lots of people, you buy a minivan.
If you live in the US and need to haul lots of people, you buy an SUV.
If you need speed, to buy a motorcycle.
If you need..


You need to decide what features are required, desired and how much  
you can spend on each phone. When I bought handsets, my primary  
requirement was that it had to be 100% remotely manageable and network  
booted/configd due to the auto provisioning software I wrote. I stuck  
to the Polycoms, Cisco, Linksys and Sipura brands. Within each brand  
will be several phones with distinct feature sets. Just figure out  
which one is required.


My suggestion, find 4 phones you think will work and take them to the  
customer to choose.



On Aug 31, 2007, at 1:11 PM, William Herrera wrote:


I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.
Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?
Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.


William Herrera
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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Graves
That question cannot be answered as everyone has their own perferences
and considerations.

That said, I really like Polycom's especially the higher end models. I
also like the Aastra 480i CT for a DECT cordless.

Michael

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I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering. 

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why? 

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted. 

  

  

William Herrera 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Dovid B
Here we go again
Google is your friend: 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=Good+IP+phone+site%3Alists.digium.combtnG=Google+Search
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Herrera 
  To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' 
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:11 PM
  Subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?


  I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

  Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

  Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

   

   

  William Herrera

  LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Bill Hackensack
Wow!  That is a good question.  I can't believe no one has ever asked that
before.

Seriously, before letting someone join this mailing list, it should ask them
a simple question:

When you don't know the answer to something, do you:
a) blindly ask hundreds of people with no regard to whether it was recently
discussed
b) search your favorite search engine for an answer first.

We all know what this poster did.

I realize my messages may seem rude and obnoxious, but let's face it, I'm
just saying what the rest of you are thinking.  I learned by reading,
reading, and reading.  The answer to almost every question is out there, you
just have to look.  It irritates me when other people don't even try to do
research first and just want someone to spoon feed them the information.  I
wonder how many of those people are being paid for their knowledge, when
in fact, they know nothing and are counting on the community to do their
work for them.

Anyway, that's enough for my rant for today.

I'll leave with one thing:

www.google.com - it's amazing what you can find
On Aug 31, 2007 12:11 PM, William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

 Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.





 *William Herrera***

 *LAN/WAN Technical Consultant*

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Paul Hales

I like my Aastra 480i a lot. It has buttons with numbers on them.

What I am guessing you are really asking is 'what's a really good phone
that's really cheap'.

PaulH


On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 14:11 -0400, William Herrera wrote:
 I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.
 
 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?
 
 Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread David Cook
Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

 I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

 Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

 William Herrera
 LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread William Herrera
Alright, enough.
At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I
feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop.
First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the
Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom,
Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this
now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am
not as you might think I am.
I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended
for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes

If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question
(or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as
intended...
Case closed.

WH


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

 I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

 Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

 William Herrera
 LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Tim Connolly
Cisco 7960's:  (SIPified)
1. Cheap
2. 6 lines is plenty
3. simple to config
4. stable

On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:03 PM, William Herrera wrote:

 Alright, enough.
 At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one  
 but I
 feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never  
 stop.
 First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work  
 for the
 Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with  
 Polycom,
 Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been  
 doing this
 now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net),  
 so I am
 not as you might think I am.
 I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not  
 intended
 for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this  
 useless notes
 
 If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the  
 question
 (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as
 intended...
 Case closed.

 WH


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David  
 Cook
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

 Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means  
 you are
 selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like  
 this,
 how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

 Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular  
 application,
 you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate  
 amounts of
 learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience  
 will
 show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
 People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they  
 expect
 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
 yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your  
 manager,
 CEO and their lawyer.

 Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research.  
 Build a
 lab. Learn.

 - dbc.

 From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

 I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

 Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

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 LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Kev S
But With all that experience you shouldn't have a issue working out what 
IP phone to get?

I have only been in the Voip industry 3 months now and i personally know 
what phone to supply to what client, Just through testing and playing 
around with different phones.

Anyway, To answer your question I like Most Cisco phones,

Cisco would be first preference and then a Linksys SPA942 which are 
quite nice.

Regards
Kevin

William Herrera wrote:
 Alright, enough.
 At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I
 feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop.
 First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the
 Telefónica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom,
 Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this
 now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am
 not as you might think I am.
 I asked a simple question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended
 for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes
 
 If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question
 (or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it simple, as
 intended...
 Case closed.

 WH


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cook
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

 Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are
 selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this,
 how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

 Even if someone recommends the best phone for your particular application,
 you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of
 learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will
 show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
 People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect
 100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
 yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager,
 CEO and their lawyer.

 Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a
 lab. Learn.

 - dbc.

 From: William Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

   
 I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

 Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

 Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

 William Herrera
 LAN/WAN Technical Consultant
 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

2008-01-06 Thread Matt Riddell
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Kev S wrote:
 Cisco would be first preference and then a Linksys SPA942 which are 
 quite nice.

Yeah, Linksys adding the backlight to the SPAs made all the difference
for me.  Huge amount of config options for setting it up - you'll
usually only need 2% of it, but it has proven useful for certain edge
scenarios.

The Linksys are obviously a great deal cheaper than the Cisco's but seem
to perform well.

For anything conferencing I'd go for the polycom kit.

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