Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-29 Thread Loic Didelot
Sorry for dropping in so late, but maybe our solution do configure snom
phones can help you

We have written a small script that scans the network for snom phones.
This is done by doing broadcast pings and using the arp-scan command and
reading the arp cache. Then we filter the results on the mac addresses
that start with 00:04:13. Of course there are other solutions to get
the list of IP addresses of your snom phones. 

Once we have a list of IP addresses we push our configuration url to
the snom phones by calling a url on the phones. 

http://$IP/dummy.htm?settings=savesetting_server=$massdeploymenturl


DHCP was not an option for us because we did not want to change or
interfere with the customer existing network structure.


Best regards,
Loïc Didelot.


On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:25 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom phones. I
 can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
 address, nor where to set the notify reply.
 
 I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options
 
 alex
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-29 Thread Olivier
2009/6/29 Loic Didelot ldide...@mixvoip.com

 Sorry for dropping in so late, but maybe our solution do configure snom
 phones can help you

 We have written a small script that scans the network for snom phones.
 This is done by doing broadcast pings and using the arp-scan command and
 reading the arp cache. Then we filter the results on the mac addresses
 that start with 00:04:13. Of course there are other solutions to get
 the list of IP addresses of your snom phones.


So, DHCP server has already replied to Snom's address request, isn't it ?



 Once we have a list of IP addresses we push our configuration url to
 the snom phones by calling a url on the phones.

How do you call a url ?
Is there a menu or key dedicated to that ?



 http://$IP/dummy.htm?settings=savesetting_server=$massdeploymenturl


What happens to phones before this url is called (and after they get an
address) ?
Are they usable for something ?

Myself, I was thinking of using a 2 steps configuration process with an IVR
allowing a phone to go from Connected to Configured status.




 DHCP was not an option for us because we did not want to change or
 interfere with the customer existing network structure.


 Best regards,
 Loïc Didelot.


 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:25 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom phones. I
  can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
  address, nor where to set the notify reply.
 
  I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options
 
  alex
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:22:54AM +0200, Loic Didelot wrote:
 Sorry for dropping in so late, but maybe our solution do configure snom
 phones can help you
 
 We have written a small script that scans the network for snom phones.
 This is done by doing broadcast pings and using the arp-scan command and
 reading the arp cache. Then we filter the results on the mac addresses
 that start with 00:04:13. Of course there are other solutions to get
 the list of IP addresses of your snom phones. 
 
 Once we have a list of IP addresses we push our configuration url to
 the snom phones by calling a url on the phones. 
 
 http://$IP/dummy.htm?settings=savesetting_server=$massdeploymenturl
 
 
 DHCP was not an option for us because we did not want to change or
 interfere with the customer existing network structure.

I have found this to be the simplest way to do it

https://svn.amooma.com/gemeinschaft/trunk/opt/gemeinschaft/sbin/gs-sip-ua-config-responder/gs-sip-ua-config-responder

 
 
 Best regards,
 Loïc Didelot.
 
 
 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:25 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
  Hi
  
  I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom phones. I
  can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
  address, nor where to set the notify reply.
  
  I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options
  
  alex
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-29 Thread Loic Didelot
Hello,
I think you do not understand. The phone gets an IP from the DHCP
server. Nothing special in this step.

Then you save the configuration url to the snom by calling the url I
showed you in my previous e-mail. This can be done using: wget, lynx,
links, php, perl ..

Once the phone has the configuraiton url, it then takes the settings
from this url. So it is up to you to write a script that returns the
correct XML.


Best regards,
Loïc Didelot.

On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 21:40 +0200, Olivier wrote:
 
 
 2009/6/29 Loic Didelot ldide...@mixvoip.com
 Sorry for dropping in so late, but maybe our solution do
 configure snom
 phones can help you
 
 We have written a small script that scans the network for snom
 phones.
 This is done by doing broadcast pings and using the arp-scan
 command and
 reading the arp cache. Then we filter the results on the mac
 addresses
 that start with 00:04:13. Of course there are other
 solutions to get
 the list of IP addresses of your snom phones.
 
 So, DHCP server has already replied to Snom's address request, isn't
 it ?
 
 
 
 
 Once we have a list of IP addresses we push our
 configuration url to
 the snom phones by calling a url on the phones.
 How do you call a url ?
 Is there a menu or key dedicated to that ? 
 
 
 
 
 http://$IP/dummy.htm?settings=savesetting_server=
 $massdeploymenturl
 
 What happens to phones before this url is called (and after they get
 an address) ?
 Are they usable for something ?
 
 Myself, I was thinking of using a 2 steps configuration process with
 an IVR allowing a phone to go from Connected to Configured status.
 
 
 
 
 DHCP was not an option for us because we did not want to
 change or
 interfere with the customer existing network structure.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Loïc Didelot.
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:25 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some
 snom phones. I
  can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the
 multicast
  address, nor where to set the notify reply.
 
  I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options
 
  alex
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-19 Thread Conrad Wood

 I fail to see how this script is useful in order to use Snom's
 Plug'n'play config.

Who said it does?

The Topic is snom mass deploy - not Plug'n'play config.

It does not use snoms Plug'n'play config, but it still provides for
snom mass deploy using the phones' built-in dhcp/http mechanism.

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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-19 Thread Ishfaq Malik


Conrad Wood wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 14:21 +0200, Philipp Kempgen wrote:
   
 On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
   
 I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom  
 phones. I
 can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
 address, nor where to set the notify reply.
 

 FWIW I use a home-grown cgi script to configure the mass-deploy.
 (attached)

 Conrad
   
I've also been asked to start thinking about doing something similar 
soon and your solution looks like the sort of thing I'll have to employ. 
Don't really know perl but I'm sure I'll work out what's going on. 
Thanks for the head start.

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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-19 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Alex Samad schrieb:
 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:21:47PM +0200, Philipp Kempgen wrote:

 Snom supports what they call PnP config.
 Technically:
 ---cut---
 # SIP Event Notification:
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3265
 # SIP UA Profile Event Package:
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipping-config-framework-15
 #   
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-channabasappa-sipping-app-profile-type-03
 #
 # Snom 3xx:
 #   http://wiki.snom.com/SIP_Traces#PnP_Config
 
 # other drafts:
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrie-sip-config-framework-01
 #   
 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/drafts/sip/draft-schulzrinne-sip-config-events-00.txt
 ---cut---
 
 Gemeinschaft (Asterisk-based open-source PBX) comes with a SIP UA
 config responder.
 
 http://www.amooma.de/gemeinschaft/
 https://svn.amooma.com/gemeinschaft/trunk/opt/gemeinschaft/sbin/gs-sip-ua-config-responder/gs-sip-ua-config-responder
 
 I saw links to this on the voip-info site, but my german is non
 existant. but on first glance through this seems to be what I want.

Yeah sorry, that page is not available in English.
At least the SIP traces, RFCs, drafts and the code are in English
(or rather in Perl :-)


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[asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Samad
Hi

I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom phones. I
can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
address, nor where to set the notify reply.

I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options

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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Balashov
I thought TFTP (and therefore, DHCP option 66) is the only  
autoprovisioning method Asterisk supports?

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 I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom  
 phones. I
 can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
 address, nor where to set the notify reply.

 I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options

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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Philipp Kempgen
 On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
 I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom  
 phones. I
 can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
 address, nor where to set the notify reply.

 I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options

Alex Balashov schrieb:
 I thought TFTP (and therefore, DHCP option 66) is the only
 autoprovisioning method Asterisk supports?

Asterisk is not involved here at all.
Snom supports what they call PnP config.
Technically:
---cut---
# SIP Event Notification:
#   http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3265
# SIP UA Profile Event Package:
#   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipping-config-framework-15
#   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-channabasappa-sipping-app-profile-type-03
#
# Snom 3xx:
#   http://wiki.snom.com/SIP_Traces#PnP_Config

# other drafts:
#   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrie-sip-config-framework-01
#   
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/drafts/sip/draft-schulzrinne-sip-config-events-00.txt
---cut---

Gemeinschaft (Asterisk-based open-source PBX) comes with a SIP UA
config responder.

http://www.amooma.de/gemeinschaft/
https://svn.amooma.com/gemeinschaft/trunk/opt/gemeinschaft/sbin/gs-sip-ua-config-responder/gs-sip-ua-config-responder

GNU GPL.


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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Conrad Wood
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 14:21 +0200, Philipp Kempgen wrote:
  On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
  I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom  
  phones. I
  can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
  address, nor where to set the notify reply.

FWIW I use a home-grown cgi script to configure the mass-deploy.
(attached)

Conrad


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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:34:38AM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
 I thought TFTP (and therefore, DHCP option 66) is the only  
 autoprovisioning method Asterisk supports?

seems like the documentation from snom for V7, includes the pnp method
as well. it sends a subscribe to a multicast address (224.0.1.75) and the 
listener is
meant to respond with a notify which has the url which is normally sent
my dhcp, i was hoping to use that

this links talks a bit about multicast
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP+registrar+server

I think I would prefer this method, but I can't find where to set
asterisk to listen to the multicast address nor where to program the
notify reply


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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Conrad Wood schrieb:
  On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
  I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom  
  phones. I
  can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
  address, nor where to set the notify reply.
 
 FWIW I use a home-grown cgi script to configure the mass-deploy.
 (attached)

I fail to see how this script is useful in order to use Snom's
Plug'n'play config.
A simple factory reset should enable the pnp_config setting.


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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Alex Samad schrieb:

 seems like the documentation from snom for V7, includes the pnp method
 as well. it sends a subscribe to a multicast address (224.0.1.75) and the 
 listener is
 meant to respond with a notify which has the url which is normally sent
 my dhcp, i was hoping to use that

 I think I would prefer this method, but I can't find where to set
 asterisk to listen to the multicast address nor where to program the
 notify reply

I have already told you that Asterisk is not involved in the process
of configuring the phone.
In order to use Snom's PnP configuration method you have to write a
daemon which opens a socket on 224.0.1.75 (sip.mcast.net), join the
multicast group, read packets and send appropriate ua-profile
notification events.
Have a look at the code I mentioned to get the idea.


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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jun 18, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Philipp Kempgen wrote:

 I think I would prefer this method, but I can't find where to set
 asterisk to listen to the multicast address nor where to program the
 notify reply

 I have already told you that Asterisk is not involved in the process
 of configuring the phone.
 In order to use Snom's PnP configuration method you have to write a
 daemon which opens a socket on 224.0.1.75 (sip.mcast.net), join the
 multicast group, read packets and send appropriate ua-profile
 notification events.
 Have a look at the code I mentioned to get the idea.

As Philipp said, you don't.  However it would make a great 3rd party  
module that could be added to Asterisk.  I use a combination of the  
PnP and web redirects (early V6 versions did not support the PnP, but  
they do automatically request a file from the DHCP web server) and  
MySQL databases.  It is now set where we just add the MAC address to  
the database and plug the phone it.  It auto-configures the rest  
(along with firmware updates).

Daniel



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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:57:20PM +0200, Philipp Kempgen wrote:
 Alex Samad schrieb:
 
  seems like the documentation from snom for V7, includes the pnp method
  as well. it sends a subscribe to a multicast address (224.0.1.75) and the 
  listener is
  meant to respond with a notify which has the url which is normally sent
  my dhcp, i was hoping to use that
 
  I think I would prefer this method, but I can't find where to set
  asterisk to listen to the multicast address nor where to program the
  notify reply
 
 I have already told you that Asterisk is not involved in the process
 of configuring the phone.

sorry go the replies after I had sent the email

 In order to use Snom's PnP configuration method you have to write a
 daemon which opens a socket on 224.0.1.75 (sip.mcast.net), join the
 multicast group, read packets and send appropriate ua-profile
 notification events.

This is not what I had hopped for, I had hoped it was something asterisk
could handle

 Have a look at the code I mentioned to get the idea.

I will have a look 

 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:21:47PM +0200, Philipp Kempgen wrote:
  On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
  I am trying to setup asterisk to do a mass deploy of some snom  
  phones. I
  can't find where i configure asteriks to listen to the multicast
  address, nor where to set the notify reply.
 
  I was hoping to not have to use dhcp options
 
 Alex Balashov schrieb:
  I thought TFTP (and therefore, DHCP option 66) is the only
  autoprovisioning method Asterisk supports?
 
 Asterisk is not involved here at all.
 Snom supports what they call PnP config.
 Technically:
 ---cut---
 # SIP Event Notification:
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3265
 # SIP UA Profile Event Package:
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipping-config-framework-15
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-channabasappa-sipping-app-profile-type-03
 #
 # Snom 3xx:
 #   http://wiki.snom.com/SIP_Traces#PnP_Config
 
 # other drafts:
 #   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrie-sip-config-framework-01
 #   
 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/drafts/sip/draft-schulzrinne-sip-config-events-00.txt
 ---cut---
 
 Gemeinschaft (Asterisk-based open-source PBX) comes with a SIP UA
 config responder.
 
 http://www.amooma.de/gemeinschaft/
 https://svn.amooma.com/gemeinschaft/trunk/opt/gemeinschaft/sbin/gs-sip-ua-config-responder/gs-sip-ua-config-responder

I saw links to this on the voip-info site, but my german is non
existant. but on first glance through this seems to be what I want.



 
 GNU GPL.
 
 
 Philipp Kempgen

-- 
I always jest to people, the Oval Office is the kind of place where people 
stand outside, they're getting ready to come in and tell me what for, and they 
walk in and get overwhelmed in the atmosphere, and they say, man, you're 
looking pretty.

- George W. Bush
11/04/2004
Washington, DC


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