[asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
hi; i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in london and want them to be able to call me in the states. Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, how much they are, and what not. Thanks mike thanks for reading Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
You can get incoming numbers from voipon.co.uk and a load of other companies in the UK... 0800 is free for them to ring but you have to pay for the call, you can also get regional numbers which are charged as a local call for them - stay away from 070 numbers though. 2008/9/29 Babcock, Michael Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > hi; > i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to > our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in > london and want them to be able to call me in the states. > Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, > how much they are, and what not. > Thanks > mike > thanks for reading > Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > hi; > i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to > our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in > london and want them to be able to call me in the states. > Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, > how much they are, and what not. As far as call charges are concerned, there is no such thing as local or long-distance in the UK now, and hadn't been for many years. We now have "geographic" and "non geographic" numbers. (Non geographics are sometimes called NGNs) The Geographics start 01 or 02 and are what they imply - mapped to a particular geographic area. (or are supposed to as some are ported into VoIP and moved) These numbers are relatively low cost to call and often can be called for free out of "inclusive minutes" or other deals with your phone company. NGNs include freephone numbers (aka toll-free in the US) - starting 0800, 0808 or 0500. NGNs can also be revenue generating - they are usually free to assign and maintain, but cost the caller more than calling a Geographic number and the terminating operator generates revenue from the call. These numbers typically start 084 or 087. The 087's generating more revenue than 084, and cost more to the caller. (There are other ranges of premium numbers - 09 and 070, but we'll not go there) So - If you want your friends to call you for free, then why not just allocate then a SIP account on your own system, then get them to run a softphone, or buy a hard-phone and then they can connect up? Failing that, they can get a SIP account with a multitude of UK (and European) based operators and make calls - sometimes for free, sometimes for a small per minute charge. And failing all that - because they don't have/want technology, you can get an account with one of these operators and terminate it in your own SIP/IAX hardware, then they can call you for the price of a standard UK geographic number - which may be free for them, depending on the package they have with their phone company. A final thing to note, there is a new range of non-geographic numbers in the UK which start 03. These cost the same to call as 01 and 02 numbers (or should), so you could allocate one of these and have it terminated on your own SIP/IAX account. People to do it via (other than me - I can't take US currency, but drop an email if interested anyway) in no particular order: www.gradwell.com, www.voiptalk.co.uk, www.voipon.co.uk, www.voip.co.uk, www.aql.co.uk and a few others. Hope this helps! Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
what are 70 numbers? On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Geraint Lee wrote: You can get incoming numbers from voipon.co.uk and a load of other companies in the UK... 0800 is free for them to ring but you have to pay for the call, you can also get regional numbers which are charged as a local call for them - stay away from 070 numbers though. 2008/9/29 Babcock, Michael Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hi; i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in london and want them to be able to call me in the states. Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, how much they are, and what not. Thanks mike thanks for reading Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users thanks for reading Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
thanks for all this information. michael On Sep 28, 2008, at 11:37 PM, Gordon Henderson wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > >> hi; >> i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to >> our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends >> in >> london and want them to be able to call me in the states. >> Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, >> how much they are, and what not. > > As far as call charges are concerned, there is no such thing as > local or > long-distance in the UK now, and hadn't been for many years. We now > have > "geographic" and "non geographic" numbers. (Non geographics are > sometimes > called NGNs) > > The Geographics start 01 or 02 and are what they imply - mapped to a > particular geographic area. (or are supposed to as some are ported > into > VoIP and moved) These numbers are relatively low cost to call and > often > can be called for free out of "inclusive minutes" or other deals > with your > phone company. > > NGNs include freephone numbers (aka toll-free in the US) - starting > 0800, > 0808 or 0500. > > NGNs can also be revenue generating - they are usually free to > assign and > maintain, but cost the caller more than calling a Geographic number > and > the terminating operator generates revenue from the call. These > numbers > typically start 084 or 087. The 087's generating more revenue than > 084, > and cost more to the caller. (There are other ranges of premium > numbers - > 09 and 070, but we'll not go there) > > So - If you want your friends to call you for free, then why not just > allocate then a SIP account on your own system, then get them to run a > softphone, or buy a hard-phone and then they can connect up? > > Failing that, they can get a SIP account with a multitude of UK (and > European) based operators and make calls - sometimes for free, > sometimes > for a small per minute charge. > > And failing all that - because they don't have/want technology, you > can > get an account with one of these operators and terminate it in your > own > SIP/IAX hardware, then they can call you for the price of a standard > UK > geographic number - which may be free for them, depending on the > package > they have with their phone company. > > A final thing to note, there is a new range of non-geographic > numbers in > the UK which start 03. These cost the same to call as 01 and 02 > numbers > (or should), so you could allocate one of these and have it > terminated on > your own SIP/IAX account. > > People to do it via (other than me - I can't take US currency, but > drop an > email if interested anyway) in no particular order: www.gradwell.com, > www.voiptalk.co.uk, www.voipon.co.uk, www.voip.co.uk, www.aql.co.uk > and a > few others. > > Hope this helps! > > Gordon > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users thanks for reading Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > what are 70 numbers? Prefix 070 (then 8 more digits) These are so-called "personal" numbers. They're a blot and an anomaly. They are expensive to call and the recipient usually gets revenue from the calls. ie. they are premium rate, revenue generating numbers in disguise. "In disguise" becasue a lot of people (in the UK) don't realise this because they look like mobile numbers - which start 07[1-9] then 8 more digits, so they think they're calling a mobile, when in-fact it's costing them much more. Gordon > On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Geraint Lee wrote: > >> You can get incoming numbers from voipon.co.uk and a load of other >> companies in the UK... 0800 is free for them to ring but you have to pay >> for the call, you can also get regional numbers which are charged as a >> local call for them - stay away from 070 numbers though. >> >> 2008/9/29 Babcock, Michael Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> hi; >> i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to >> our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in >> london and want them to be able to call me in the states. >> Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, >> how much they are, and what not. >> Thanks >> mike >> thanks for reading >> Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy >> >> >> ___ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> ___ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > thanks for reading > Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
right will stay away from them, smile. mike On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Gordon Henderson wrote: > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > >> what are 70 numbers? > > Prefix 070 (then 8 more digits) These are so-called "personal" > numbers. > They're a blot and an anomaly. They are expensive to call and the > recipient usually gets revenue from the calls. ie. they are premium > rate, > revenue generating numbers in disguise. > > "In disguise" becasue a lot of people (in the UK) don't realise this > because they look like mobile numbers - which start 07[1-9] then 8 > more > digits, so they think they're calling a mobile, when in-fact it's > costing > them much more. > > Gordon > > >> On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Geraint Lee wrote: >> >>> You can get incoming numbers from voipon.co.uk and a load of other >>> companies in the UK... 0800 is free for them to ring but you have >>> to pay >>> for the call, you can also get regional numbers which are charged >>> as a >>> local call for them - stay away from 070 numbers though. >>> >>> 2008/9/29 Babcock, Michael Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> hi; >>> i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to >>> our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some >>> friends in >>> london and want them to be able to call me in the states. >>> Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, >>> how much they are, and what not. >>> Thanks >>> mike >>> thanks for reading >>> Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net >>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com >>> -- >>> >>> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >>> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >>> >>> asterisk-users mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >>> >>> ___ >>> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com >>> -- >>> >>> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >>> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >>> >>> asterisk-users mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> thanks for reading >> Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy >> > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users thanks for reading Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 09:17:11AM -0800, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > right will stay away from them, smile. > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > >> what are 70 numbers? > > Prefix 070 (then 8 more digits) These are so-called "personal" > > numbers. > > They're a blot and an anomaly. They are expensive to call and the > > recipient usually gets revenue from the calls. ie. they are premium > > rate, > > revenue generating numbers in disguise. Worth noting that UK premium rate numbers are covered by PhonePayPlus (the regulator for PRS). http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/consumers/faq/default.asp 070 MAY be covered if they are used for PRS services (not for personal numbering). Ofcom are intending to move PRS out of 070 (and want to make all 07 mobile). There are oddities of course, the Channel Islands adhere to UK numbering plans by agreement with the UK gov (or however it works) but Channel Island mobiles and landline numbers are treated as foreign calls even though they are in UK number space. Great isn't it. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Ofcom banned end user revenue share on 070 numbers several years ago although the provider makes money. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: 29 September 2008 18:01 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids? On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > what are 70 numbers? Prefix 070 (then 8 more digits) These are so-called "personal" numbers. They're a blot and an anomaly. They are expensive to call and the recipient usually gets revenue from the calls. ie. they are premium rate, revenue generating numbers in disguise. "In disguise" becasue a lot of people (in the UK) don't realise this because they look like mobile numbers - which start 07[1-9] then 8 more digits, so they think they're calling a mobile, when in-fact it's costing them much more. Gordon > On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Geraint Lee wrote: > >> You can get incoming numbers from voipon.co.uk and a load of other >> companies in the UK... 0800 is free for them to ring but you have to pay >> for the call, you can also get regional numbers which are charged as a >> local call for them - stay away from 070 numbers though. >> >> 2008/9/29 Babcock, Michael Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> hi; >> i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to >> our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in >> london and want them to be able to call me in the states. >> Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, >> how much they are, and what not. >> Thanks >> mike >> thanks for reading >> Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy >> >> >> ___ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> ___ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > thanks for reading > Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids?
bt give an annoying message before it connects your call, well, annoying if you actually are using 070 as a personal number and callers aren't charged stupid amounts of money to call it. virgin(old ntl) and h3g don't give any warning message at all though. 2008/9/29 asterisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ofcom banned end user revenue share on 070 numbers several years ago > although the provider makes money. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon > Henderson > Sent: 29 September 2008 18:01 > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] uk tole-free dids? > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote: > > > what are 70 numbers? > > Prefix 070 (then 8 more digits) These are so-called "personal" numbers. > They're a blot and an anomaly. They are expensive to call and the > recipient usually gets revenue from the calls. ie. they are premium rate, > revenue generating numbers in disguise. > > "In disguise" becasue a lot of people (in the UK) don't realise this > because they look like mobile numbers - which start 07[1-9] then 8 more > digits, so they think they're calling a mobile, when in-fact it's costing > them much more. > > Gordon > > > > On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Geraint Lee wrote: > > > >> You can get incoming numbers from voipon.co.uk and a load of other > >> companies in the UK... 0800 is free for them to ring but you have to pay > >> for the call, you can also get regional numbers which are charged as a > >> local call for them - stay away from 070 numbers though. > >> > >> 2008/9/29 Babcock, Michael Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> hi; > >> i do not know how it works in the uk, but is there an equalivent to > >> our 866-877-888-800 numbers for london for say? I have some friends in > >> london and want them to be able to call me in the states. > >> Please help with where i can get the numbers, what they start with, > >> how much they are, and what not. > >> Thanks > >> mike > >> thanks for reading > >> Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net > >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> > >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > >> ___ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> > >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > thanks for reading > > Systems administrator and owner of http://gwhosting.net > > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > twitter: http://twitter.com/creepyblindy > > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
