Re: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
Jim Van Meggelen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Van Meggelen wrote: Yep, that's a possibility, but it's rather more kludgy than I'd like. (heck, the channel bank and T1 is more kludgy than I'd like - an integrated card would be my preference). I haven't followed this thread closely but have you looked into the Voicetronix OpenSwitch cards? http://www.voicetronix.com.au/hda.htm I've looked at them, but never heard much about them. Is anyone using them? Can anyone give a comparison vs. the TDM400? I'm using a Voicetronix OpenLine4, and it works well under asterisk. Initially I had some echo problems, but Voicetronix support is excellent and solved them (I've just updated the wiki with the bal# values they gave me). I can't compare it to the TDM400, not having used one, but you can use multiple Voicetronix OpenSwitch 6 and 12 cards in one system without the interrupt problem of the TDM400. James Andrewartha DAA Sysadmin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
Yesterday, I've checked tariffs from Bell Canada, For Full voice T1 it was costs around $1000 + tax. $216 - is access fee, $34 per channel. You can get the PRIs from Allstream with 3 years commitment ~$600 per month. Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On February 20, 2005 11:44 am, Jim Van Meggelen wrote: I like the thinking; the challenge is often where in the world you are, and how much competition there is. Here in Ontario, T1's were generally priced such that fractional T1s hardly saved anything. There is more competition now, so prices are changing, but I still can't see frac T1 service competing with such a small number of analog circuits. I know there are places where such a thing could be had very competitively, so your advice is still good. I think you'd be surprised. Even in Listowel a CT1 for POTS termination was on-par with having the individual analogue lines brought out. You'll pay a little more for the smartjack lease but it eliminates a lot of headaches. Hell the PRI here in cow-town Listowel was in-line with POTS until you included the D channel price of $500 -- The B chans were all $55/mo which is exactly what a business line costs. I imagine CT1 instead of PRI service would have been significantly cheaper, *AND* I wouldn't have to pay for all those extra DIDs. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- All the Best! Sergey. = Sergey Kuznetsov President/CEO High Intellectual Technologies, Inc. Web: http://www.hitcalls.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business phone: (416) 548-9700 Mobile phone: (647) 287-8448 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim Van Meggelen wrote: > >> Yep, that's a possibility, but it's rather more kludgy than I'd like. >> (heck, the channel bank and T1 is more kludgy than I'd like - an >> integrated card would be my preference). > > I haven't followed this thread closely but have you looked into the > Voicetronix OpenSwitch cards? > > http://www.voicetronix.com.au/hda.htm I've looked at them, but never heard much about them. Is anyone using them? Can anyone give a comparison vs. the TDM400? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
On February 20, 2005 11:44 am, Jim Van Meggelen wrote: > I like the thinking; the challenge is often where in the world you are, > and how much competition there is. Here in Ontario, T1's were generally > priced such that fractional T1s hardly saved anything. There is more > competition now, so prices are changing, but I still can't see frac T1 > service competing with such a small number of analog circuits. I know > there are places where such a thing could be had very competitively, so > your advice is still good. I think you'd be surprised. Even in Listowel a CT1 for POTS termination was on-par with having the individual analogue lines brought out. You'll pay a little more for the smartjack lease but it eliminates a lot of headaches. Hell the PRI here in cow-town Listowel was in-line with POTS until you included the D channel price of $500 -- The B chans were all $55/mo which is exactly what a business line costs. I imagine CT1 instead of PRI service would have been significantly cheaper, *AND* I wouldn't have to pay for all those extra DIDs. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 20 Feb 2005, at 16:22, Jim Van Meggelen wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> If you have a TDM card already, buying a T1, channelbank, etc. to >>> add a few lines is the stupidest thing I've heard of today. >> >> Not necessarily stupid, but certainly expensive. >> >>> Have you looked into buying some cheap multiport ATAs? 2 port >>> SIP/IAX2 ATA should be around $70-80? >> >> Yep, that's a possibility, but it's rather more kludgy than I'd like. >> (heck, the channel bank and T1 is more kludgy than I'd like - an >> integrated card would be my preference). >> >> >>> -Michael >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim >>> Van Meggelen Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:39 PM >>> To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' >>> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if you >>> needmorethan 4 C.O. lines >>> >>> Really? For five lines I need to buy all that hardware? >>> >>> Hmm. >>> >>> Well, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my question. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jim. >>> >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digium tech support recommends going with a t1 card and a channel bank. This is by far the simplest, cheapest and cleanest solution that I know of. Jon. On Friday 18 February 2005 09:21 am, Jim Van Meggelen wrote: > Folks, > > In light of all the troubles people report when running more than > one TDM400 card in a system, I wouldn't mind hearing what your > solution of choice would be when having to connect 5 or more > analog telco circuits to an Asterisk. > > I'll try and compile the answers together and get them into the > Wiki, as I figure this could be useful knowledge for the > community. > > TIA, > > Jim. >> > > If you already need 5+ lines, and expect any growth, ask your > telco to quote for a T1 with 6 (or 8) channels enabled. > > It might not be as expensive as you'd think, and you get all the > advantages of a digital circuit, plus an easy expansion route. I like the thinking; the challenge is often where in the world you are, and how much competition there is. Here in Ontario, T1's were generally priced such that fractional T1s hardly saved anything. There is more competition now, so prices are changing, but I still can't see frac T1 service competing with such a small number of analog circuits. I know there are places where such a thing could be had very competitively, so your advice is still good. > Plus you avoid the (possible) need for a channel bank. Agreed. Thanks kindly for the reply. Regards, Jim. -- Jim Van Meggelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
On February 20, 2005 09:25 am, Michael Giagnocavo wrote: > Sorry, I understood the O.P. already had the hardware bought and installed > and simply wanted to throw on an extra line. You understood correctly; But again even a TDM401P is $133 on Digium's site. Considering you could probably get 60% of the price of your original TDM404P ($200 is 60% of $337), then you're either spending $133 for another TDM401P (and all the hassle of trying to get two to work in a system) or $600 (my $800 estimate - the $200 you got for your old equipmen)... $600 != 8x $133, and $800 != 8x $537. Anyway I think he's got his recommendations :-) -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines
Sorry, I understood the O.P. already had the hardware bought and installed and simply wanted to throw on an extra line. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:14 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A bit of a survey: What do do if youneedmorethan4 C.O. lines On February 20, 2005 01:41 am, Michael Giagnocavo wrote: > Well, sure, if you want to spend 8x the amount, yea, it's going to be a > much nicer setup. Show me a TDM404P for $100. Now show me a system with two of them working reliably and repeatably. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
