Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?

2004-07-20 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Scott Stingel wrote:
Because a majority of my customers are in Europe, I've gotten quite used to
working with ISDN (PRI) and BRI on a regular basis.  Recently one of my
customers asked me if I could terminate a few lines locally here in the USA
(California), so I called up SBC to enquire as to how much it would cost to
install a BRI here.
So why is the subject of your message PRI dead in USA? G
What are other's experience in the US with BRI?  Also, they mentioned that I
couldn't get caller ID with the BRI service, which I thought was a built-in
feature.
I have a client who had 8 BRI lines (just recently turned off) used as 
trunk service for a Nortel MICS system. They worked fine, delivered 
calling number _and_ name (in QWest territory), service was excellent 
and voice quality was too (duh, it's digital :-)).

I suspect that BRI is going to go away in the next couple of years, 
since it has never really taken off and now there are other alternatives 
for high-speed data-only usage.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Stingel
BTW - the title of this was supposed to be BRI dead in USA?!  (too early!)



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Hi-

Because a majority of my customers are in Europe, I've gotten quite used to
working with ISDN (PRI) and BRI on a regular basis.  Recently one of my
customers asked me if I could terminate a few lines locally here in the USA
(California), so I called up SBC to enquire as to how much it would cost to
install a BRI here.

Although the rates were reasonable (except the installation), I got the
distinct impression that they really didn't want to install BRI's.  Their
comments were well, BRI is getting quite antiquated, and the like.  They
said with the advent of ADSL, there's not much of a market anymore, as most
of past usage was modem related.

I'm a little worried about the pricing going up, and availability going down
in the near future.  I don't have the volume yet to justify PRI.

What are other's experience in the US with BRI?  Also, they mentioned that I
couldn't get caller ID with the BRI service, which I thought was a built-in
feature.

Thanks
Scott Stingel 

 
 
Scott M. Stingel
President,
Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
Palo Alto California  London England
www.evtmedia.com 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Stingel
Brian-

Wow - that is high!
I got quoted only $35/month for BRI (and a hefty installation) - not too
bad.  But the comment about no CLI scared me off.

Regards
Scott


Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
Palo Alto, California and London, England
  
URL:www.evtmedia.com  


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Well they fail to realize that ISDN is used for more than data.  I just
wanna scream at them and say IT DOES VOICE TO YOU NINNY!.. Rates are far
from reasonable.  167/mth here is what I would have to pay for ISDN-BRI.

SBC is lame.

bkw

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Stingel
 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:37 AM
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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] PRI dead in USA?

 Hi-

 Because a majority of my customers are in Europe, I've gotten quite used
 to
 working with ISDN (PRI) and BRI on a regular basis.  Recently one of my
 customers asked me if I could terminate a few lines locally here in the
 USA
 (California), so I called up SBC to enquire as to how much it would cost
 to
 install a BRI here.

 Although the rates were reasonable (except the installation), I got the
 distinct impression that they really didn't want to install BRI's.  Their
 comments were well, BRI is getting quite antiquated, and the like.  They
 said with the advent of ADSL, there's not much of a market anymore, as
 most
 of past usage was modem related.

 I'm a little worried about the pricing going up, and availability going
 down
 in the near future.  I don't have the volume yet to justify PRI.

 What are other's experience in the US with BRI?  Also, they mentioned that
 I
 couldn't get caller ID with the BRI service, which I thought was a built-
 in
 feature.

 Thanks
 Scott Stingel



 Scott M. Stingel
 President,
 Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
 Palo Alto California  London England
 www.evtmedia.com


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?

2004-07-20 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 14:15, Scott Stingel wrote:
 Brian-
 
 Wow - that is high!
 I got quoted only $35/month for BRI (and a hefty installation) - not too
 bad.  But the comment about no CLI scared me off.

In Nashville, it is $90/month for a BRI without per minute charges for
business. I remember paying $35/month for residential about 10 years or
so ago.

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brian
 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:46 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] PRI dead in USA?
 
 Well they fail to realize that ISDN is used for more than data.  I just
 wanna scream at them and say IT DOES VOICE TO YOU NINNY!.. Rates are far
 from reasonable.  167/mth here is what I would have to pay for ISDN-BRI.
 
 SBC is lame.
 
 bkw
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Stingel
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] PRI dead in USA?
 
  Hi-
 
  Because a majority of my customers are in Europe, I've gotten quite used
  to
  working with ISDN (PRI) and BRI on a regular basis.  Recently one of my
  customers asked me if I could terminate a few lines locally here in the
  USA
  (California), so I called up SBC to enquire as to how much it would cost
  to
  install a BRI here.
 
  Although the rates were reasonable (except the installation), I got the
  distinct impression that they really didn't want to install BRI's.  Their
  comments were well, BRI is getting quite antiquated, and the like.  They
  said with the advent of ADSL, there's not much of a market anymore, as
  most
  of past usage was modem related.
 
  I'm a little worried about the pricing going up, and availability going
  down
  in the near future.  I don't have the volume yet to justify PRI.
 
  What are other's experience in the US with BRI?  Also, they mentioned that
  I
  couldn't get caller ID with the BRI service, which I thought was a built-
  in
  feature.
 
  Thanks
  Scott Stingel
 
 
 
  Scott M. Stingel
  President,
  Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
  Palo Alto California  London England
  www.evtmedia.com
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?

2004-07-20 Thread Mike Reed
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 Steven Critchfield
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 On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 14:15, Scott Stingel wrote:
  Brian-
  
  Wow - that is high!
  I got quoted only $35/month for BRI (and a hefty 
 installation) - not too
  bad.  But the comment about no CLI scared me off.
 
 In Nashville, it is $90/month for a BRI without per minute charges for
 business. I remember paying $35/month for residential about 
 10 years or
 so ago.

BRI outside of  Austin, TX from SBC (RBOC) is $158 for businesses.
Note: this was specifically acquired as a data line.  DSL, Cable and
wireless not available.

Mike :) 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?

2004-07-20 Thread Billy Huddleston
TN is one of the BEST states for BRI's..  Bellsouth messed up and had to
make some concessions to the PUC a long time ago..  You can get BRI
anywhere, and it's a flat fee..  typically $80-$90 per month Biz rate,
$35-45 Residential..

Thanks, Billy


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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI dead in USA?


 On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 14:15, Scott Stingel wrote:
  Brian-
 
  Wow - that is high!
  I got quoted only $35/month for BRI (and a hefty installation) - not too
  bad.  But the comment about no CLI scared me off.

 In Nashville, it is $90/month for a BRI without per minute charges for
 business. I remember paying $35/month for residential about 10 years or
 so ago.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brian
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:46 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] PRI dead in USA?
 
  Well they fail to realize that ISDN is used for more than data.  I just
  wanna scream at them and say IT DOES VOICE TO YOU NINNY!.. Rates are
far
  from reasonable.  167/mth here is what I would have to pay for ISDN-BRI.
 
  SBC is lame.
 
  bkw
 
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   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:37 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Asterisk-Users] PRI dead in USA?
  
   Hi-
  
   Because a majority of my customers are in Europe, I've gotten quite
used
   to
   working with ISDN (PRI) and BRI on a regular basis.  Recently one of
my
   customers asked me if I could terminate a few lines locally here in
the
   USA
   (California), so I called up SBC to enquire as to how much it would
cost
   to
   install a BRI here.
  
   Although the rates were reasonable (except the installation), I got
the
   distinct impression that they really didn't want to install BRI's.
Their
   comments were well, BRI is getting quite antiquated, and the like.
They
   said with the advent of ADSL, there's not much of a market anymore, as
   most
   of past usage was modem related.
  
   I'm a little worried about the pricing going up, and availability
going
   down
   in the near future.  I don't have the volume yet to justify PRI.
  
   What are other's experience in the US with BRI?  Also, they mentioned
that
   I
   couldn't get caller ID with the BRI service, which I thought was a
built-
   in
   feature.
  
   Thanks
   Scott Stingel
  
  
  
   Scott M. Stingel
   President,
   Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
   Palo Alto California  London England
   www.evtmedia.com
  
  
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