Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-25 Thread Wilson Pickett
 SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an
 electric guitar.

Of course you can. Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-25 Thread Robert Webb


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  SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil
 eggs on an
  electric guitar.

 Of course you can. Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix?

I think he fried his mellon, not egg.. ;-)



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-25 Thread Rusty Shackleford

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  SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil 
 eggs on an 
  electric guitar.
 
 Of course you can. Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix? 

Heh-heh... right. I think I'm calling up the same image that you did,
though technically, at that point, it became a naptha guitar. At any
rate, the guy was certainly versatile, wasnt he?

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-25 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Hmmm, it seems to me that a Mr. James Hendrix once showed how a chicken
could be cooked on an electric guitar during a public concert.

Race ;)

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I guess I need to go over my college electronics again... it's been a
while.

Ian

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 14:18 
Yes, one might think that, IF one didn't understand the nature of
electricity and electrical components. 
SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an
electric guitar.


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 One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 
 Ian Pattison wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled 
  everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the 
  process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my 
  incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I 
  quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not 
  before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage.
 
 AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port!
 
 No they can't survive 89 volts!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Riddell

Ian Pattison wrote:

Hi all,

Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled everything apart 
as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the process of putting things back 
together I accidentally connected my incoming lines to my FXS ports and my 
phones to my FXO ports. I quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected 
things but not before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage.


AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port!

No they can't survive 89 volts!

HEHEHE Better call Digium!

:) Bad Luck man!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On May 23, 2005 02:44 pm, Ian Pattison wrote:
 Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled everything
 apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the process of putting
 things back together I accidentally connected my incoming lines to my FXS
 ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I quickly realized the mistake I made
 and corrected things but not before one of my FXS modules was smoked by
 incoming ring voltage.

Ouch.  I'm sorry.

 Has anyone else seen this? Also, wouldn't one assume that a module designed
 to generate an 89V ring tone could also accept it without being destroyed?

While it sounds like something that may be plausible, it's just not true.  
It's hard to protect against voltage you should be able to generate because 
the protection circuitry would kick in when YOU generated it too.  Speaking 
as an EE (but nondegreed, I've just been doing it for 10 years) you *can* 
design in tricks to work around these issues but they just jack up the cost 
on the device and this is already a cost-sensitive market.  I don't blame 
Digium for not including it at all.

Basically it's like saying your portable gas generator should be able to take 
having 120V applied to it since it can generate 120V.  It just doesn't work 
that way, I'm afraid.

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-24 Thread Rusty Shackleford
Yes, one might think that, IF one didn't understand the nature of
electricity and electrical components. 
SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an
electric guitar.


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 One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 
 Ian Pattison wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled 
  everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the 
  process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my 
  incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I 
  quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not 
  before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage.
 
 AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port!
 
 No they can't survive 89 volts!

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?

2005-05-24 Thread Ian Pattison
I guess I need to go over my college electronics again... it's been a while.

Ian

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 14:18 
Yes, one might think that, IF one didn't understand the nature of
electricity and electrical components. 
SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an
electric guitar.


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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
 
 
 One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 
 Ian Pattison wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled 
  everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the 
  process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my 
  incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I 
  quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not 
  before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage.
 
 AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port!
 
 No they can't survive 89 volts!

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