RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:53, Adam Goryachev wrote: Yes, echo problems do still exist, I would suggest testing it before going live. Yeah, so I've heard. A couple of points to note: 1) Using soft phones seems to compound the issue So the echo problems are not so bad when using software phones? 2) A faster CPU seems to help (I upgraded from a PII300 to a Athlon 2200) 3) When dialling in/out over the ISDN DTMF won't work (at least I haven't seen the patch which purportedly allows it to work) when you use the isdn4linux patch. This is specific to the NetJet card once again, right? Time to go hunting for the patch... 4) Without the above kernel patch you will hear DTMF tones instead of the other persons voice when they talk. They don't hear the tones or notice anything wrong. Hmm, not good. Since we want to run a small IVR the DTMF tones are kinda needed. In short, if you can live with the above problems, then you can get away with it, from what I know now, I would suggest getting a chan_capi capable device, though I haven't tried that yet. The NetJet is supposedly CAPI capable. Have you tried installing this? -- http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page1.html I am about to switch from a netjet card to a TE4xxP card as soon as possible, I have a OnRamp 10 being installed tomorrow. This is largely to increase the number of incoming lines, but partly to resolve the above issues, and also partly to try to resolve long running reliability issues which may in fact be related to the TDM400P anyway. In which case I will be looking for a T1 channel bank some time soon :( Argh, the fun never stops :) PS, I have a brand new Traverse Netjet card available (it was to be used for a dial-up ISDN internet account) which is no longer needed. How much do you want for it? If you can confirm whether the capi channel driver works with it and reduces the echo problem, I'll be interested. Thanks for your help. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
Re: these problems with the NetJet Cards: have people spoken with Traverse about them? I have found them to be most helpful with any problems (mainly with the Pulsar PCI ADSL cards) Try talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Servat Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:53, Adam Goryachev wrote: Yes, echo problems do still exist, I would suggest testing it before going live. Yeah, so I've heard. A couple of points to note: 1) Using soft phones seems to compound the issue So the echo problems are not so bad when using software phones? 2) A faster CPU seems to help (I upgraded from a PII300 to a Athlon 2200) 3) When dialling in/out over the ISDN DTMF won't work (at least I haven't seen the patch which purportedly allows it to work) when you use the isdn4linux patch. This is specific to the NetJet card once again, right? Time to go hunting for the patch... 4) Without the above kernel patch you will hear DTMF tones instead of the other persons voice when they talk. They don't hear the tones or notice anything wrong. Hmm, not good. Since we want to run a small IVR the DTMF tones are kinda needed. In short, if you can live with the above problems, then you can get away with it, from what I know now, I would suggest getting a chan_capi capable device, though I haven't tried that yet. The NetJet is supposedly CAPI capable. Have you tried installing this? -- http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page1.html I am about to switch from a netjet card to a TE4xxP card as soon as possible, I have a OnRamp 10 being installed tomorrow. This is largely to increase the number of incoming lines, but partly to resolve the above issues, and also partly to try to resolve long running reliability issues which may in fact be related to the TDM400P anyway. In which case I will be looking for a T1 channel bank some time soon :( Argh, the fun never stops :) PS, I have a brand new Traverse Netjet card available (it was to be used for a dial-up ISDN internet account) which is no longer needed. How much do you want for it? If you can confirm whether the capi channel driver works with it and reduces the echo problem, I'll be interested. Thanks for your help. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
I'll be speaking to Guy tomorrow about this. Guy is certainly a helpful friendly guy and I'm sure he'll be keen to hear about these echo problems. Regards, Gonzalo On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 00:48, Bryan Nolen wrote: Re: these problems with the NetJet Cards: have people spoken with Traverse about them? I have found them to be most helpful with any problems (mainly with the Pulsar PCI ADSL cards) Try talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Servat Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:53, Adam Goryachev wrote: Yes, echo problems do still exist, I would suggest testing it before going live. Yeah, so I've heard. A couple of points to note: 1) Using soft phones seems to compound the issue So the echo problems are not so bad when using software phones? 2) A faster CPU seems to help (I upgraded from a PII300 to a Athlon 2200) 3) When dialling in/out over the ISDN DTMF won't work (at least I haven't seen the patch which purportedly allows it to work) when you use the isdn4linux patch. This is specific to the NetJet card once again, right? Time to go hunting for the patch... 4) Without the above kernel patch you will hear DTMF tones instead of the other persons voice when they talk. They don't hear the tones or notice anything wrong. Hmm, not good. Since we want to run a small IVR the DTMF tones are kinda needed. In short, if you can live with the above problems, then you can get away with it, from what I know now, I would suggest getting a chan_capi capable device, though I haven't tried that yet. The NetJet is supposedly CAPI capable. Have you tried installing this? -- http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page1.html I am about to switch from a netjet card to a TE4xxP card as soon as possible, I have a OnRamp 10 being installed tomorrow. This is largely to increase the number of incoming lines, but partly to resolve the above issues, and also partly to try to resolve long running reliability issues which may in fact be related to the TDM400P anyway. In which case I will be looking for a T1 channel bank some time soon :( Argh, the fun never stops :) PS, I have a brand new Traverse Netjet card available (it was to be used for a dial-up ISDN internet account) which is no longer needed. How much do you want for it? If you can confirm whether the capi channel driver works with it and reduces the echo problem, I'll be interested. Thanks for your help. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- = WEBTASTIC ABN 30 087 960 619 PO Box 3024 Willoughby North, NSW, 2068 Phone: +61 (02) 9499 2452 Fax: +61 (02) 9499 2618 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.webtastic.com.au = ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
Hello, Inbound dtmf works without patches but you do here tones now and again which is annoying. Echo can be bad, I think it has to do with analogue phone lines at other end, mobile and digital calls seem to be okay from what I have seen. As for outbound DTMF, the ISDN driver does not generate tones but it does send it out of band. So if the other side accepts the out of band dtmf it works. I have for example found that calling Telstra does not work however calling a small ISP in sydney did. As for capi, am hoping to get access to capi cards soon. Regards, Matthew Enger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:53, Adam Goryachev wrote: You mentioned echo problems with the NetJet cards. Is this still the case or was it last time you tried that it that had echo problems? I did a Google search and didn't find much on the echo problems with them. Yes, echo problems do still exist, I would suggest testing it before going live. A couple of points to note: 1) Using soft phones seems to compound the issue 2) A faster CPU seems to help (I upgraded from a PII300 to a Athlon 2200) 3) When dialling in/out over the ISDN DTMF won't work (at least I haven't seen the patch which purportedly allows it to work) when you use the isdn4linux patch. 4) Without the above kernel patch you will hear DTMF tones instead of the other persons voice when they talk. They don't hear the tones or notice anything wrong. In short, if you can live with the above problems, then you can get away with it, from what I know now, I would suggest getting a chan_capi capable device, though I haven't tried that yet. I am about to switch from a netjet card to a TE4xxP card as soon as possible, I have a OnRamp 10 being installed tomorrow. This is largely to increase the number of incoming lines, but partly to resolve the above issues, and also partly to try to resolve long running reliability issues which may in fact be related to the TDM400P anyway. In which case I will be looking for a T1 channel bank some time soon :( PS, I have a brand new Traverse Netjet card available (it was to be used for a dial-up ISDN internet account) which is no longer needed. Regards, Adam ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matthew Enger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xintegration ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
Hello, Let us know how you go, be better if one person contacts him then all of us:) Thanks, Matthew Enger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:10, Gonzalo Servat wrote: I'll be speaking to Guy tomorrow about this. Guy is certainly a helpful friendly guy and I'm sure he'll be keen to hear about these echo problems. Regards, Gonzalo On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 00:48, Bryan Nolen wrote: Re: these problems with the NetJet Cards: have people spoken with Traverse about them? I have found them to be most helpful with any problems (mainly with the Pulsar PCI ADSL cards) Try talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Servat Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:53, Adam Goryachev wrote: Yes, echo problems do still exist, I would suggest testing it before going live. Yeah, so I've heard. A couple of points to note: 1) Using soft phones seems to compound the issue So the echo problems are not so bad when using software phones? 2) A faster CPU seems to help (I upgraded from a PII300 to a Athlon 2200) 3) When dialling in/out over the ISDN DTMF won't work (at least I haven't seen the patch which purportedly allows it to work) when you use the isdn4linux patch. This is specific to the NetJet card once again, right? Time to go hunting for the patch... 4) Without the above kernel patch you will hear DTMF tones instead of the other persons voice when they talk. They don't hear the tones or notice anything wrong. Hmm, not good. Since we want to run a small IVR the DTMF tones are kinda needed. In short, if you can live with the above problems, then you can get away with it, from what I know now, I would suggest getting a chan_capi capable device, though I haven't tried that yet. The NetJet is supposedly CAPI capable. Have you tried installing this? -- http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page1.html I am about to switch from a netjet card to a TE4xxP card as soon as possible, I have a OnRamp 10 being installed tomorrow. This is largely to increase the number of incoming lines, but partly to resolve the above issues, and also partly to try to resolve long running reliability issues which may in fact be related to the TDM400P anyway. In which case I will be looking for a T1 channel bank some time soon :( Argh, the fun never stops :) PS, I have a brand new Traverse Netjet card available (it was to be used for a dial-up ISDN internet account) which is no longer needed. How much do you want for it? If you can confirm whether the capi channel driver works with it and reduces the echo problem, I'll be interested. Thanks for your help. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matthew Enger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xintegration ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
I've spoken to Guy. I suggested he takes a look at: http://www.junghanns.net .. for the CAPI Channel driver, but after speaking to a few more people I began to understand how they all link together and the CAPI channel driver is not going to help. He knows about the echo problems now so the ball is in his court. As I understand it, there needs to be some Linux CAPI drivers written for the NetJet otherwise the only way to use the card is with isdn4linux. Correct? Regards, Gonzalo On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 14:03, Matthew Enger wrote: Hello, Let us know how you go, be better if one person contacts him then all of us:) Thanks, Matthew Enger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:10, Gonzalo Servat wrote: I'll be speaking to Guy tomorrow about this. Guy is certainly a helpful friendly guy and I'm sure he'll be keen to hear about these echo problems. Regards, Gonzalo On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 00:48, Bryan Nolen wrote: Re: these problems with the NetJet Cards: have people spoken with Traverse about them? I have found them to be most helpful with any problems (mainly with the Pulsar PCI ADSL cards) Try talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Servat Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:53, Adam Goryachev wrote: Yes, echo problems do still exist, I would suggest testing it before going live. Yeah, so I've heard. A couple of points to note: 1) Using soft phones seems to compound the issue So the echo problems are not so bad when using software phones? 2) A faster CPU seems to help (I upgraded from a PII300 to a Athlon 2200) 3) When dialling in/out over the ISDN DTMF won't work (at least I haven't seen the patch which purportedly allows it to work) when you use the isdn4linux patch. This is specific to the NetJet card once again, right? Time to go hunting for the patch... 4) Without the above kernel patch you will hear DTMF tones instead of the other persons voice when they talk. They don't hear the tones or notice anything wrong. Hmm, not good. Since we want to run a small IVR the DTMF tones are kinda needed. In short, if you can live with the above problems, then you can get away with it, from what I know now, I would suggest getting a chan_capi capable device, though I haven't tried that yet. The NetJet is supposedly CAPI capable. Have you tried installing this? -- http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page1.html I am about to switch from a netjet card to a TE4xxP card as soon as possible, I have a OnRamp 10 being installed tomorrow. This is largely to increase the number of incoming lines, but partly to resolve the above issues, and also partly to try to resolve long running reliability issues which may in fact be related to the TDM400P anyway. In which case I will be looking for a T1 channel bank some time soon :( Argh, the fun never stops :) PS, I have a brand new Traverse Netjet card available (it was to be used for a dial-up ISDN internet account) which is no longer needed. How much do you want for it? If you can confirm whether the capi channel driver works with it and reduces the echo problem, I'll be interested. Thanks for your help. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- = WEBTASTIC ABN 30 087 960 619 PO Box 3024 Willoughby North, NSW, 2068 Phone: +61 (02) 9499 2452 Fax: +61 (02) 9499 2618 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.webtastic.com.au = ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:13:09PM +1100, Gonzalo Servat wrote: Hi All, This topic has come up before in the Asterisk mailing list many times, so I know that a lot of people have given up in waiting for a FXO card to be approved by the Australian telecommunications authority. My question is: all legalities aside - is anyone using a FXO card in Australia successfully? I have spoken to a number of Australian users who are successfully using: X100P NetJet (echo issues) AVM Fritz!Card I hope to add myself to their number shortly, since we have recieved our Fritz!es Also [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be having some success with the VoiceTronix openline4. All these cards are legal except the X100P. cheers, Woody PS: You are a SLUG member, no? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
The answer is yes. Peter At 12:13 17/11/03 +1100, you wrote: Hi All, This topic has come up before in the Asterisk mailing list many times, so I know that a lot of people have given up in waiting for a FXO card to be approved by the Australian telecommunications authority. My question is: all legalities aside - is anyone using a FXO card in Australia successfully? Thanks in advance. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
I am sure that others have used it directly... I have used it indirectly hanging off PABX extensions and even tested them on emulators... not a problem... The x100p in their current form will never pass a-tick and even c-tick might be questionable. The CE version of the card I have never seen and seeing it uses a slightly different chipset it would probably need software adjustments.. The standard veriosn has a CE symbol on it but that doesn't mean anything as only fcc details are there... If anyone has a CE version and tried it, maybe something can be done, but then I think the CE is maybe just a furfy :-) Gary. PS: PLEASE dont ask me more, I have wasted enough time on it in the past. On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:13:09 +1100, Gonzalo Servat wrote: Hi All, This topic has come up before in the Asterisk mailing list many times, so I know that a lot of people have given up in waiting for a FXO card to be approved by the Australian telecommunications authority. My question is: all legalities aside - is anyone using a FXO card in Australia successfully? Thanks in advance. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:20, Anthony Wood wrote: I have spoken to a number of Australian users who are successfully using: X100P NetJet (echo issues) AVM Fritz!Card I hope to add myself to their number shortly, since we have recieved our Fritz!es Also [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be having some success with the VoiceTronix openline4. All these cards are legal except the X100P. Thanks very much Anthony. VoiceTronix cards are a little out of my budget, the NatJet AVM cards are for ISDN (and we need standard analogue). PS: You are a SLUG member, no? I'm a SLUG active mailing list user, not a financial member - yet. :) Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 03:49:40PM +1100, Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:20, Anthony Wood wrote: I have spoken to a number of Australian users who are successfully using: X100P NetJet (echo issues) AVM Fritz!Card I hope to add myself to their number shortly, since we have recieved our Fritz!es Also [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be having some success with the VoiceTronix openline4. All these cards are legal except the X100P. Thanks very much Anthony. VoiceTronix cards are a little out of my budget, the NatJet AVM cards are for ISDN (and we need standard analogue). ISDN (telstra Onramp 2) is very similar in price to standard telstra lines. The only problem is you can't have ADSL ISDN on the same line. We upgraded from 2 analogue lines to 2 digital (i.e. 4 channels) for $250. But they Telstra'd up the installation so we asked for (and got) the $250 waived. It's worth thinking about it because of the Advantages of Digital signalling when using voice: Know which number was dialed Know callerid early Know when the other end has hung up Better voice quality Using Analogue with Asterisk seems to be filled with Kludges to detect hangups, busy, etc. With ISDN, the exchange does that for you. cheers, Woody ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:00, Anthony Wood wrote: ISDN (telstra Onramp 2) is very similar in price to standard telstra lines. The only problem is you can't have ADSL ISDN on the same line. We upgraded from 2 analogue lines to 2 digital (i.e. 4 channels) for $250. I was a bit turned off by the $300+ installation cost. I just rang Telstra and its infact $190 if you already have a telephone line, which I do. Awesome! How come you 4 channels if you only have 2 digital lines? I thought it was one channel per line. I was told by the Telstra rep that I need a OnRamp2 which is 2 channels, 2 lines. But they Telstra'd up the installation so we asked for (and got) the $250 waived. Typical (about Telstra'ing the installation, not the setup fee discount!) It's worth thinking about it because of the Advantages of Digital signalling when using voice: Know which number was dialed Know callerid early Know when the other end has hung up Better voice quality Using Analogue with Asterisk seems to be filled with Kludges to detect hangups, busy, etc. With ISDN, the exchange does that for you. Yeah, we're now looking at it again. Local calls are pretty cheap too as long as you don't talk for too long. You mentioned echo problems with the NetJet cards. Is this still the case or was it last time you tried that it that had echo problems? I did a Google search and didn't find much on the echo problems with them. Thanks again for the good info. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
No No sip image for it yet Also is there any way I can change messages and extensions depending on local time ?? Also is there a way to transfer the call over PSTN if the local extension is not answered. Eg to a normal gsm mobile ?? Regards Mick West NetExpress Phone 61 08 82420173 Fax 61 08 82425099 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: Confidentiality: This message contains privileged and/or confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, re-transmit, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete the document and notify NetExpress immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of NetExpress. The use of this Email or it's contents in any public place, eg forum, website is strictly prohibited. Viruses: Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. Data Actions' entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Servat Sent: Monday, 17 November 2003 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:00, Anthony Wood wrote: ISDN (telstra Onramp 2) is very similar in price to standard telstra lines. The only problem is you can't have ADSL ISDN on the same line. We upgraded from 2 analogue lines to 2 digital (i.e. 4 channels) for $250. I was a bit turned off by the $300+ installation cost. I just rang Telstra and its infact $190 if you already have a telephone line, which I do. Awesome! How come you 4 channels if you only have 2 digital lines? I thought it was one channel per line. I was told by the Telstra rep that I need a OnRamp2 which is 2 channels, 2 lines. But they Telstra'd up the installation so we asked for (and got) the $250 waived. Typical (about Telstra'ing the installation, not the setup fee discount!) It's worth thinking about it because of the Advantages of Digital signalling when using voice: Know which number was dialed Know callerid early Know when the other end has hung up Better voice quality Using Analogue with Asterisk seems to be filled with Kludges to detect hangups, busy, etc. With ISDN, the exchange does that for you. Yeah, we're now looking at it again. Local calls are pretty cheap too as long as you don't talk for too long. You mentioned echo problems with the NetJet cards. Is this still the case or was it last time you tried that it that had echo problems? I did a Google search and didn't find much on the echo problems with them. Thanks again for the good info. Regards, Gonzalo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO Cards in Australia
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:32:50PM +1100, Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:00, Anthony Wood wrote: ISDN (telstra Onramp 2) is very similar in price to standard telstra lines. The only problem is you can't have ADSL ISDN on the same line. We upgraded from 2 analogue lines to 2 digital (i.e. 4 channels) for $250. I was a bit turned off by the $300+ installation cost. I just rang Telstra and its infact $190 if you already have a telephone line, which I do. Awesome! How come you 4 channels if you only have 2 digital lines? I thought it was one channel per line. I was told by the Telstra rep that I need a OnRamp2 which is 2 channels, 2 lines. Yeah OnRamp2 replaces 1 analogue line, so we converted 2 analogue lines to 2 * OnRamp2 i.e. 4 lines. But they Telstra'd up the installation so we asked for (and got) the $250 waived. Typical (about Telstra'ing the installation, not the setup fee discount!) It's worth thinking about it because of the Advantages of Digital signalling when using voice: Know which number was dialed Know callerid early Know when the other end has hung up Better voice quality Using Analogue with Asterisk seems to be filled with Kludges to detect hangups, busy, etc. With ISDN, the exchange does that for you. Yeah, we're now looking at it again. Local calls are pretty cheap too as long as you don't talk for too long. You mentioned echo problems with the NetJet cards. Is this still the case or was it last time you tried that it that had echo problems? I did a Google search and didn't find much on the echo problems with them. There is still the problem, so bad that 4 person business I know stumped up the cash for an ISDN10 PRI install (AU$2000) and a TE410P (AU$3000) to replace a netjet ($250). I have only heard good things about the AVM Fritz!Cards with chan_capi. They are more expensive than the NetJets, but cheaper per line than the Openline4. Thanks again for the good info. I prefer Vanilla Coke to beer. :-) cheers -- Woody ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
