Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-06 Thread Mark Phillips

Are they configured for inbound calls? If so how?

Usually the telco sends the last 4 digits of the called phone number 
down the line. This means you'll need an exten=blah setup in the context 
that handles the T1.


Hope that helps.

Mark, G7LTT/KC2ENI
Randolph, NJ
http://www.g7ltt.com


David Sampson wrote:

Hello –

 

I have a non-PRI T1 setup and have been making outgoing calls for 
several months no problem.  I have Zapata.conf setup for fxs_ks on these 
channels.  How do I take incoming calls on these same channels?  Do I 
need to change the signaling?


 


Any help is appreciated.

 


Thank you,


Dave




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-06 Thread Rusty Shackleford
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> 
> Are they configured for inbound calls? If so how?
> 
> Usually the telco sends the last 4 digits of the called phone number 
> down the line. 

Uhm, don't you need PRI signalling for that?

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-06 Thread O'Connor, Jonathan
You can use a normal T1.  I have one between an Asterisk box and a
Vodavi switch.

I use 10 channels between them with E&M signalling.  Zaptel.conf:
loadzone= us
defaultzone = us
span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs
#bchan=1-10 # set this to 1-15,17-31 for E1
#dchan=24 # set this to 16 for E1
e&m=1-10
#fxsgs=1-10

Then Zapata.conf has:
immediate=no
overlapdial=yes
switchtype=national
signalling=em_w
emdigitwait=1000
channel=>1-10


You have to be careful of timing and such, because basically its really
no fancier then a set of lines that happen to be on a T1.  It opens and
line and literally sends 4 DTMF codes to the server to tell it where its
calling.  For all intents and purposes it could be a bundle of 10 normal
phone lines.


It is our only site using this method because they wanted a fortune for
a PRI card.  Our Avaya and Nortel PBXs all talk to their Asterisk PBXs
using PRI, MUCH easier.  The basic T1 signalling and EM Wink is truly
horrid to work with when the PBX is as dumb as a box of rocks like our
Vodavi system.

-Jonathan
 
Jonathan O'Connor
Senior System Administrator
Inoveris LLC
Direct Line (614) 791-3742
Fax (614) 791-3748
Helpdesk 866-456-1566
 
 
 

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> > Are they configured for inbound calls? If so how?
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> > Usually the telco sends the last 4 digits of the called 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-07 Thread Jerry Jones
Any type of circuit available as an analog line is also available  
over a T1. It just minimizes the amount of copper required to deliver  
service.


You must look at you original order from your telephone company to  
determine the type of circuits they are delivering. They may be POTS  
1FB in which case there are no digitis. They may be E&M with none. Or  
they may be DID which would be sending digits. Although only the  
order would identify the exact number of digits. If they are DID then  
you were probably assignen at least one block of 20 numbers to be  
delivered on the circuit.


Of course then you need to know how many trunks/circuits you have  
active on the T1. For outgoing calls you control which ones to use  
for any given call. for incoming they may be divided into multiple  
trunk groups with different numbers coming in on different channels.


If they are non DID circuits then they should hit the s exten in  
whatever context you have defined for them in zapata.conf on an  
incoming call.


Good luck


On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:02 PM, O'Connor, Jonathan wrote:


You can use a normal T1.  I have one between an Asterisk box and a
Vodavi switch.

I use 10 channels between them with E&M signalling.  Zaptel.conf:
loadzone= us
defaultzone = us
span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs
#bchan=1-10 # set this to 1-15,17-31 for E1
#dchan=24 # set this to 16 for E1
e&m=1-10
#fxsgs=1-10

Then Zapata.conf has:
immediate=no
overlapdial=yes
switchtype=national
signalling=em_w
emdigitwait=1000
channel=>1-10


You have to be careful of timing and such, because basically its  
really
no fancier then a set of lines that happen to be on a T1.  It opens  
and
line and literally sends 4 DTMF codes to the server to tell it  
where its
calling.  For all intents and purposes it could be a bundle of 10  
normal

phone lines.


It is our only site using this method because they wanted a fortune  
for

a PRI card.  Our Avaya and Nortel PBXs all talk to their Asterisk PBXs
using PRI, MUCH easier.  The basic T1 signalling and EM Wink is truly
horrid to work with when the PBX is as dumb as a box of rocks like our
Vodavi system.

-Jonathan

Jonathan O'Connor
Senior System Administrator
Inoveris LLC
Direct Line (614) 791-3742
Fax (614) 791-3748
Helpdesk 866-456-1566





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Are they configured for inbound calls? If so how?

Usually the telco sends the last 4 digits of the called

phone number

down the line.


Uhm, don't you need PRI signalling for that?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

David Sampson wrote:


Hello –

I have a non-PRI T1


[...]


How do I take incoming calls on these same channels?


You should get a PRI T1.

The minute you get close to capacity on this line you will run into 
timing issues with incoming and outgoing lines competing with each 
other. This problem will only happen when you need it most, which is the 
worst failure case.


Unless your usage never spikes above 50% usage (counting incoming *and* 
outgoing) on this line you will regret not using a PRI.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-10 Thread David Sampson
We do have a PRI on order but have an immediate need so band-aid in the
mean time.  This circuit has actually been hooked to a channel bank for
years with just analog phone and I stuck Asterisk in the middle about 3
months ago.  I setup the standard S extension and it is handling
incoming no problem.

One other question - how do I get outgoing calls to select last
available channel instead of first?

Thanks,

Dave


David J. Sampson
Information Technology Manager
InnSeason Resorts
212 Mid-Tech Drive
West Yarmouth, MA 02673
508-957-1881

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David Sampson wrote:

> Hello -
>
> I have a non-PRI T1
>
[...]

> How do I take incoming calls on these same channels?
>
You should get a PRI T1.

The minute you get close to capacity on this line you will run into 
timing issues with incoming and outgoing lines competing with each 
other. This problem will only happen when you need it most, which is the

worst failure case.

Unless your usage never spikes above 50% usage (counting incoming *and* 
outgoing) on this line you will regret not using a PRI.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-10 Thread Kevin Bockman

David Sampson wrote:

One other question - how do I get outgoing calls to select last
available channel instead of first?


There is an explanation of this in the sample extensions.conf.sample in 
/usr/src/asterisk/configs using r/R/g/G



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration

2004-09-25 Thread Lyle Giese
SF framing is called d4 in the zaptel.conf.  And use ami instead of b8zs.
If you want those changed, it will be basically a new circuit from your
telco!

You say that you have it running into a channel bank now.  What type of
channel units are in the channel bank?   That will tell us what type of
signalling is on the channels.  There is more to the signalling/chan type
than you have learned about yet.

I am not sure on DNIS.  They may be just sending the callerid the same way
it's sent over a analog line.  If it was my circuit and my pbx and migrating
to *, I would want to convert this to an ISDN PRI.

Lyle

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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration


>   I'm trying to hook up a non-PRI fractional T1 using a T400P port. The
> Telco says that it is provisioned as AMI with SF (not ESF) and that they
are
>  signalling by "sending down a straight DS1" (I'm not sure what exactly
that
> means).  They are also sending DNIS over these channels. I currently run
it
> through a channel bank for my IVR application and it works fine but I am
now
> trying to convert to *.
>
>   This leaves me with three questions. First, * does not have an option
for
> SF framing. If I use ESF, should that work or is there another way?
>
>   Second, how do I configure the channel signalling in both zaptel.conf
and
> zapata.conf?
>
>   Third, how can I capture the DNIS in this situation or will it
> automatically be available in the ${EXTEN} variable and also passed to AGI
> scripts?
>
>   I would appreciate any help.
>
>
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration

2004-09-25 Thread lll
>>SF framing is called d4 in the zaptel.conf.
Thanks.

>>You say that you have it running into a channel bank now.  What type of
>>channel units are in the channel bank?   That will tell us what type of
>>signalling is on the channels.  There is more to the signalling/chan type
>>than you have learned about yet.
I just have FXS cards in the channel bank. Does this mean I expect FXS
signalling from the T1?  If not, what more do I need to ask the Telco?

>>I am not sure on DNIS.  They may be just sending the callerid the same way
>>it's sent over a analog line.
I'm not getting callerID, just DID.

>>If it was my circuit and my pbx and migrating
>>to *, I would want to convert this to an ISDN PRI.
Yes, of course...and I am planning to do exactly that. But before going to
that expense, I need to test my software (converted to AGI) under asterisk
with what I've got now.

>>Lyle

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration



>>   I'm trying to hook up a non-PRI fractional T1 using a T400P port. The
>> Telco says that it is provisioned as AMI with SF (not ESF) and that they
are

>>  signalling by "sending down a straight DS1" (I'm not sure what exactly
>>  that>> means).  They are also sending DNIS over these channels. I currently
>> run it>> through a channel bank for my IVR application and it works fine but I
>> am now>> trying to convert to *.
>>
>>   This leaves me with three questions. First, * does not have an option
>>   for>> SF framing. If I use ESF, should that work or is there another way?
>>
>>   Second, how do I configure the channel signalling in both zaptel.conf
>>   and>> zapata.conf?
>>
>>   Third, how can I capture the DNIS in this situation or will it
>> automatically be available in the ${EXTEN} variable and also passed to AGI
>> scripts?
>>



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration

2004-09-25 Thread Lyle Giese

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> >>SF framing is called d4 in the zaptel.conf.
> Thanks.

Don't forget this will be ami and not b8zs.  You have to use esf to get
b8zs.

>
> >>You say that you have it running into a channel bank now.  What type of
> >>channel units are in the channel bank?   That will tell us what type of
> >>signalling is on the channels.  There is more to the signalling/chan
type
> >>than you have learned about yet.
> I just have FXS cards in the channel bank. Does this mean I expect FXS
> signalling from the T1?  If not, what more do I need to ask the Telco?

Yes, you will need to emulate the function of the channel units in the
channel bank.  I would ask if the channels are loop or ground start. That is
not obvious from the type of channel unit.

>
> >>I am not sure on DNIS.  They may be just sending the callerid the same
way
> >>it's sent over a analog line.
> I'm not getting callerID, just DID.

I have not worked with that, but your dial plan then would just take the
incoming digits and do something with that information.  I have no
experience with DID to help with that piece.

>
> >>If it was my circuit and my pbx and migrating
> >>to *, I would want to convert this to an ISDN PRI.
> Yes, of course...and I am planning to do exactly that. But before going to
> that expense, I need to test my software (converted to AGI) under asterisk
> with what I've got now.

It will be somewhat different when you go to ISDN, btw.

Lyle

>
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> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration
>
>
>
> >>   I'm trying to hook up a non-PRI fractional T1 using a T400P port. The
> >> Telco says that it is provisioned as AMI with SF (not ESF) and that
they
> are
>
> >>  signalling by "sending down a straight DS1" (I'm not sure what exactly
> >>  that>> means).  They are also sending DNIS over these channels. I
currently
> >> run it>> through a channel bank for my IVR application and it works
fine but I
> >> am now>> trying to convert to *.
> >>
> >>   This leaves me with three questions. First, * does not have an option
> >>   for>> SF framing. If I use ESF, should that work or is there another
way?
> >>
> >>   Second, how do I configure the channel signalling in both zaptel.conf
> >>   and>> zapata.conf?
> >>
> >>   Third, how can I capture the DNIS in this situation or will it
> >> automatically be available in the ${EXTEN} variable and also passed to
AGI
> >> scripts?
> >>
>
>
>
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 configuration

2004-09-25 Thread Paul Mahler
Are they just sending dnis? Do you have feature group D? 

Paul


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> 
>   I'm trying to hook up a non-PRI fractional T1 using a T400P 
> port. The Telco says that it is provisioned as AMI with SF 
> (not ESF) and that they are  signalling by "sending down a 
> straight DS1" (I'm not sure what exactly that means).  They 
> are also sending DNIS over these channels. I currently run it 
> through a channel bank for my IVR application and it works 
> fine but I am now trying to convert to *.
> 
>   This leaves me with three questions. First, * does not have 
> an option for SF framing. If I use ESF, should that work or 
> is there another way?
> 
>   Second, how do I configure the channel signalling in both 
> zaptel.conf and zapata.conf?
> 
>   Third, how can I capture the DNIS in this situation or will 
> it automatically be available in the ${EXTEN} variable and 
> also passed to AGI scripts?
> 
>   I would appreciate any help.
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1 showing red

2004-09-16 Thread Craig Foley
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:12:10 -0700 (PDT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could anyone with any experience with * over a non-PRI T1 help this newbie?
> I have a fractional T1 that is working fine through a channel bank, but I
> can't get any response on * using a T400P. My analog line and the extensions
> work fine, but the T400P port 1 shows a red led (what exactly does that tell
> me?). I brought up zttool which shows a condition red also, but ztcfg shows
> nothing amiss.  There is no change when I unplug the cable to the T1 or
> re-insert it.  When I load * it gives no error messages, at least none that
> appear to be such to me.  I've looked thru all the related wiki info that I
> can find but I'm stumped.


On my E100P, a flashing red LED meant that there was no connection to
the ISDN.  When I switched the cable to a proper E1 cross over cable,
everything was fine.

Regards,
Craig.
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