RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
Does anyone know how these laws apply in interstate calls? For example, I am in a One-party consent state. This means I can legally record any telephone I am a part of, without notifying any other party. Say someone from Florida or another all-party state calls me, or I call someone in Florida. Which set of laws apply? Or is there a set of Federal laws that override what the state laws say? Next question is regarding how caller-ID plays a part of it. Say I have a system set up to record all calls. I have no idea where the call could be coming from. Would I be required to have caller-ID, or automatically stop recording of calls (or play warning messages) that came from area codes within the all-party states? I don't currently have a need to record any calls, but I just wanted to play devil's advocate and see if anyone knew the answers. Thanks and have a good one, Jeremy -Original Message- From: C. Maj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Dean Collins waxed: Ian, I'd love to see an example of this. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Stevenson Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 1:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence --On Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:21 pm +0300 Vladyslav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 15:06, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Thank U for your reply, however I was asking about recording during call (for example I don't need record all calls, but only some of them and I want start recording during actual call process). You can activate call recording with a php script from a web page too. You can turn recording on and off without the called party knowing and at any time in the call. Iain Those in the US might want to check on what sort of laws affect recording of telephone conversations: http://archive.aclu.org/issues/cyber/phonelaw.html I recall it being mentioned on this list that people wished to spy on their kids with *, and that's specifically forbidden in most states, as it would be zero-party consent. You can log their IM all you want, tho. Then wonder why they hate you. --Chris -- Chris Maj, Rochester cmaj_at_freedomcorpse_dot_com Pronunciation Guide: Maj == May ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
Why don't you have a This call may be recorded for quality assurance when someone calls in That provides notification. Zac On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 09:01, Jeremy Hall wrote: Does anyone know how these laws apply in interstate calls? For example, I am in a One-party consent state. This means I can legally record any telephone I am a part of, without notifying any other party. Say someone from Florida or another all-party state calls me, or I call someone in Florida. Which set of laws apply? Or is there a set of Federal laws that override what the state laws say? Next question is regarding how caller-ID plays a part of it. Say I have a system set up to record all calls. I have no idea where the call could be coming from. Would I be required to have caller-ID, or automatically stop recording of calls (or play warning messages) that came from area codes within the all-party states? I don't currently have a need to record any calls, but I just wanted to play devil's advocate and see if anyone knew the answers. Thanks and have a good one, Jeremy -Original Message- From: C. Maj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Dean Collins waxed: Ian, I'd love to see an example of this. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Stevenson Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 1:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence --On Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:21 pm +0300 Vladyslav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 15:06, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Thank U for your reply, however I was asking about recording during call (for example I don't need record all calls, but only some of them and I want start recording during actual call process). You can activate call recording with a php script from a web page too. You can turn recording on and off without the called party knowing and at any time in the call. Iain Those in the US might want to check on what sort of laws affect recording of telephone conversations: http://archive.aclu.org/issues/cyber/phonelaw.html I recall it being mentioned on this list that people wished to spy on their kids with *, and that's specifically forbidden in most states, as it would be zero-party consent. You can log their IM all you want, tho. Then wonder why they hate you. --Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
Jeremy, In the realm of US law, there are no definates. Before going any farther, I AM NOT LICENSED to practice law or provide legal advice in any way, form, or manner. That being said, talk to someone who is licensed to do so. And in this case, make sure that person is or has access to a telecommunications expert in the federal area as well. If you determine that you are safe under criminal law, you will also want to ask about any issues you may hit in civil law (this will probably mostly pertain to use of the recordings and results of those uses instead of the act of recording itself) -Chris On 07:01 AM 5/3/2004, Jeremy Hall wrote: Does anyone know how these laws apply in interstate calls? For example, I am in a One-party consent state. This means I can legally record any telephone I am a part of, without notifying any other party. Say someone from Florida or another all-party state calls me, or I call someone in Florida. Which set of laws apply? Or is there a set of Federal laws that override what the state laws say? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
If you live in a one-party state you can record ANY call in or out .. doesn't matter if the call comes from/to out of state or not. You are within the rights of your state. I live in Oklahoma and I record EVERY call in our out of my house with asterisk. bkw ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 11:13:17AM -0500, brian said: If you live in a one-party state you can record ANY call in or out .. doesn't matter if the call comes from/to out of state or not. You are within the rights of your state. I live in Oklahoma and I record EVERY call in our out of my house with asterisk. The site: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/interstate.html has something to say about this. Apparently it depends on the state, and how the states handle conflict of law, and in which state someone files suit. The recommendation is to follow the laws that are more strict in cases where there is a conflict. I suppose you could do something with a database of area codes, and if no caller ID is present, assume you can't record. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
brian wrote: If you live in a one-party state you can record ANY call in or out .. doesn't matter if the call comes from/to out of state or not. You are within the rights of your state. I live in Oklahoma and I record EVERY call in our out of my house with asterisk. Is there a list somewhere of one party versus (I assume) two party states? Thx. B. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 02:15:09PM -0500, Brian Capouch said: Is there a list somewhere of one party versus (I assume) two party states? Google for telephone recording law ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 14:15, Brian Capouch wrote: brian wrote: If you live in a one-party state you can record ANY call in or out .. doesn't matter if the call comes from/to out of state or not. You are within the rights of your state. I live in Oklahoma and I record EVERY call in our out of my house with asterisk. Is there a list somewhere of one party versus (I assume) two party states? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Nope, didn't reduce frustration level. Whats wrong with your google interface? You posted about just short of 2 hours after Walt Reed posted a link to a site with the relevant information. Even if you didn't get his information in time, goole provides for a wonderful list of such resources. The terms I used are as follows, call recording law state. Since you seem to use english well, you should have been able to figure out those keywords. The first link on the list google provided to me was to RCFP, the same site Walt Reed mentioned a couple of hours ago. Then there are probably a few dozen more examples after that. Please, use a little effort, don't spam the list with easily answered questions that a child would be expected to look up and find the answer to. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
I record ALL calls in and out of my house. If someone calls me too bad. Its not illegal in my state. bkw - Original Message - From: C. Maj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence On Mon, 3 May 2004, Steven Critchfield waxed: On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 14:15, Brian Capouch wrote: brian wrote: If you live in a one-party state you can record ANY call in or out .. doesn't matter if the call comes from/to out of state or not. You are within the rights of your state. I live in Oklahoma and I record EVERY call in our out of my house with asterisk. Is there a list somewhere of one party versus (I assume) two party states? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Nope, didn't reduce frustration level. Whats wrong with your google interface? You posted about just short of 2 hours after Walt Reed posted a link to a site with the relevant information. I thought even better was my post from 2 *days* ago with just such a link. Granted, it's the ACLU, and I sent it on May Day so y'all were prolly out marching, but... a href=previous post in this thread http://archive.aclu.org/issues/cyber/phonelaw.html /a And I'm no legal expert either, but if you cross state lines, you are dealing with 2 sets of state laws. To think that only your state's laws matter is naive at best. Worse yet, you are under federal jurisdiction, too. You simply can't record everything going in and out of your * box, just because the feature is there doesn't make it legal. --Chris -- Chris Maj, Rochester cmaj_at_freedomcorpse_dot_com Pronunciation Guide: Maj == May ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Dean Collins waxed: Ian, I'd love to see an example of this. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Stevenson Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 1:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Start recording during call by pressing button sequence --On Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:21 pm +0300 Vladyslav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 15:06, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Thank U for your reply, however I was asking about recording during call (for example I don't need record all calls, but only some of them and I want start recording during actual call process). You can activate call recording with a php script from a web page too. You can turn recording on and off without the called party knowing and at any time in the call. Iain Those in the US might want to check on what sort of laws affect recording of telephone conversations: http://archive.aclu.org/issues/cyber/phonelaw.html I recall it being mentioned on this list that people wished to spy on their kids with *, and that's specifically forbidden in most states, as it would be zero-party consent. You can log their IM all you want, tho. Then wonder why they hate you. --Chris -- Chris Maj, Rochester cmaj_at_freedomcorpse_dot_com Pronunciation Guide: Maj == May ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
