Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

2005-01-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henry Devito wrote:
 
www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a 
close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how 
well it works.
 
 

I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and 
can't seem to get anyone to reply.

My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be 
excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going 
to happen when I have a problem?

Ek!
-Brett
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane) {Scanned}

2005-01-21 Thread David Shaw
I'm playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it has a web interface. Great for
users to check Voicemail. Anyways I would help with webmin but I have
never wrote html before and I'm very new to Asterisk.

Thanks, David

On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 07:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Henry Devito wrote:
 
   
  www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a 
  close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how 
  well it works.
   
   
 
 I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and 
 can't seem to get anyone to reply.
 
 My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be 
 excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going 
 to happen when I have a problem?
 
 Ek!
 -Brett
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

2005-01-21 Thread Ferguson, Michael
Same here.
I called them yesterday plus email and still no reply.

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Henry Devito wrote:

  
 www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a
 close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how 
 well it works.
  
  

I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and 
can't seem to get anyone to reply.

My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be

excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going

to happen when I have a problem?

Ek!
-Brett


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

2005-01-21 Thread C F
Interesting, because I also called them, and I was able to get a
price, they told me $300 per license, for bulk every 5th license is
free.


On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:43:13 -0500, Ferguson, Michael
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 Same here.
 I called them yesterday plus email and still no reply.
 
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)
 
 Henry Devito wrote:
 
 
  www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a
  close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how
  well it works.
 
 
 
 I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and
 can't seem to get anyone to reply.
 
 My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be
 
 excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going
 
 to happen when I have a problem?
 
 Ek!
 -Brett
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane) {Scanned}

2005-01-21 Thread David Shaw
Just got a reply from them. $300 Commercial $100 personal. They gave me
a login to look at the demo. Didn't see anything I wanted to buy.

David

On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 09:34, C F wrote:
 Interesting, because I also called them, and I was able to get a
 price, they told me $300 per license, for bulk every 5th license is
 free.
 
 
 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:43:13 -0500, Ferguson, Michael
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Same here.
  I called them yesterday plus email and still no reply.
  
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  Henry Devito wrote:
  
  
   www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a
   close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how
   well it works.
  
  
  
  I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and
  can't seem to get anyone to reply.
  
  My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be
  
  excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going
  
  to happen when I have a problem?
  
  Ek!
  -Brett
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

2005-01-21 Thread Henry Devito




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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

Henry Devito wrote:

  
 www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a 
 close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how 
 well it works.
  
  

I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and 
can't seem to get anyone to reply.

My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be 
excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going 
to happen when I have a problem?

Ek!
-Brett

I could not agree more.  Last time a new the gui was $300 US.  I emailed a
sales person about 2 months ago and that was his response.  I never
purchased it for the simple reason that I didn't need it.  Once you learn
the command line it seems just as easy to edit config files that way.

Have a good day
Henry

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Re: [SPAM] RE: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

2005-01-21 Thread guru




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Henry Devito wrote:


 www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a
 close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how
 well it works.



I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and
can't seem to get anyone to reply.

My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be
excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going
to happen when I have a problem?

Ek!
-Brett

 I could not agree more.  Last time a new the gui was $300 US.  I emailed a
 sales person about 2 months ago and that was his response.  I never
 purchased it for the simple reason that I didn't need it.  Once you learn
 the command line it seems just as easy to edit config files that way.

 Have a good day
 Henry

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Interesting, but it looks like the webmin module from thirdlane is also
the same one being used by ipfone, take a look at this link and compare
the modules it is the same other than the language setting.

http://www.ipfone.com.br/images/iptalk_int_.GIF

Who is the original creator of the module, is it thirdlane, iptalk, or
someone else ?

Sergio

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Webmin Module for Asterisk (and thirdlane)

2005-01-21 Thread Paul
Webmin modules are usually written in perl but there is always the 
possibility that the perl invokes some compiled binaries. I would always 
ask if 100% source is included. Otherwise you can end up paying for 
something that someday prevents you from upgrading the overall linux system.

Don't forget that looking at proprietary source code can put you in a 
position where your contributions to open source might be challenged. 
They might falsely accuse you of borrowing from the proprietary code 
you saw. It can get complicated. Ask me to work on proprietary software 
for your senseless widget manufacturing plant and I will give you a 
great deal. Ask me to work on proprietary software for something I am 
really interested in like voip and I will ask you to compensate me for 
every day that the non-disclosure and do-not-compete clauses are in 
effect. I guess I'm poor but free.

I have thought about writing a free * webmin module. It would definitely 
have to use the * remote management features. Reason for that is maybe I 
don't want webmin(and many other things) running on a busy * server. You 
can always have webmin available on the server for maintainance needs 
but not started at boot time. The rest of the time you use webmin and 
the * module on another machine to manage various * servers. You can use 
stunnel to encrypt management traffic to remote servers. Take a really 
good look at Jamie Cameron's webmin and you will see that it was 
designed with this type of need in mind. You could use a single webmin 
server to manage a building with dozens of networked servers. He already 
put lots of tools in the toolbox for the module developer.

Anyway, I would agree with Henry for my own situation. But maybe you 
would quickly get your $300 worth because you want to have a 
cross-trained pbx management team. Or maybe you can get a good price on 
this and bundle it with systems you sell. The screen shots on the 
website didn't tell me enough to make me salivate over it.

--
Paul
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Henry Devito wrote:
   

www.thirdlane.com http://www.thirdlane.com  has already written a 
close dsource webmin module.  I have no idea how much it costs or how 
well it works.


 

I've attempted to contact thirdlane to get pricing on their GUI and 
can't seem to get anyone to reply.

My personal feeling is that if it's closed source, the support better be 
excellent. And if I can't get a reply to a sales question.. What's going 
to happen when I have a problem?

Ek!
-Brett
   

I could not agree more.  Last time a new the gui was $300 US.  I emailed a
sales person about 2 months ago and that was his response.  I never
purchased it for the simple reason that I didn't need it.  Once you learn
the command line it seems just as easy to edit config files that way.
Have a good day
Henry
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