RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
I am a user of Teliax and voipjet. I find voipjet to be very reliable and good for outgoing, very low lag, etc. Teliax is good too, but I am finding high lag rates, to the point where there is a half-second delay. I ended up just ordering a pots line for incoming (since I am going to be doing advertising), as the lag is annoying. The downside is that teliax gives me a number like 816-1000, which is a cool did number. The local CO does not offer such numbers. The upside, if there is a problem it is resolved quickly, and my lag time is much lower. Overall, If you have good ping time to teliax, they are excellent. Otherwise, stick with pots for important inbound. For 800, use a normal ld company and send to a voip inbound if service is good. This way you have all bases covered, although at a slightly higher cost. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnathan Corgan Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? JD wrote: Inbound calling has been down for 2 days. Just FYI, mine is back up (408-903) as of about five hours ago. I did just speak with a (Broadvoice) support tech on an entirely unrelated matter (40 min. hold time!), mentioned mine was working, and he seemed to think things were coming back in stages. I've had them for two months now. People may recall a series of emails regarding packet loss through their PNAP link to Sprintlink (my ex-ISP backbone.) I ditched the Sprint BBD fixed-wireless service, got Sonic.net DSL, and have been enjoying pretty high quality voice service since. The packet loss rates at PNAP still show but I think now this shows it's an artificial measure (intentionally dropped non-VOIP packets, all the other potential reasons hashed about in that thread.) In spite of the service outages and long hold times for support, I still want to give them the benefit of the doubt (and my $25 monthly.) It still seems like growing pains vs. incompetency. I tried their web interface to change DIDs, as they now have them in my home area code. The effect was instant, I reconfigured sip.conf with the new number and secret they provide, and something like 3 minutes later was using the new DID. So some things do work well. Wish they did IAX. And ILBC. Not that important to me right now, though. -Johnathan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
I started out happy as a clam with my new Broadvoice account and asterisk machine. About 10 days ago things began to change. Inbound calling has been down for 2 days. Beyond the We are currently experiencing in-bound call issues with a carrier partner in some areas. We are aware of the issue and our engineers are working to have it resolved as soon as possible mantra their support email and people that answer the phone (if you can wait long enough) aren't talking. Who's happy with their voip service using asterisk? Where do you get reliable DIDs? The 'carrier partner' they speak of.. can you get the did directly from them? Are all the voip providers this flakey? Nope, just some. Been very happy with both livevoip.com and teliax.com, but there certainly are others as well. You've seen the testimonials already on this list. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
On May 7, 2005 12:22 am, JD wrote: Who's happy with their voip service using asterisk? I am. Nufone. For the past 18 months. Totally happy. Where do you get reliable DIDs? I have a PRI I get my DIDs on. I have not yet found a VOIP provider with DIDs available in a WIDE area with reliable inbound service. Nufone has DIDs in a couple NPA/NXXes but not in ones I need. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
I've had Broadvoice for over a year now, and although their outages are really annoying, the fact that their service costs $20/month unlimited is what keeps me with them.. I have 2 Inbound #'s through them (same account), one in GA (678-253) and one in CT (203-935), and overall their inbound has been more reliable than their outbound (minus the past week or so).. I have my dialplan try BV first, and then if it cannot use BV for outbound, it rolls to my pots line(s).. It actually works really well, except that if BV goes completely toes up Asterisk decides that it doesn't want to do anything either :-( That is what I find the most annoying, quite frankly, BV is having Growing pains (in my opinion), and I can accept that, haven't put anything critical on my BV inbound, and 90% of the time BV outbound works fine.. The rest of the time, the pots take care of outbound, and anyone who calls me calls on my pots lines (except for family in GA, which is why I have the GA #). For me personally, I just think VOIP is 'too' early in the maturity curve to really rely on it as a provider.. It's great in-house (medium/large companies), but for service, I think pots are the way to have rock solid service for the time being. I know of two of my friends that have Vonage as their only inbound numbers (not via asterisk, via the vonage locked adapters, so it is completely vonange), and their service also has issues at times.. Granted, I'm not sure if it's a true vonage issue, or their internet connection, but nonetheless, there are still issues.. If I could get Asterisk so it just work continue 'working' properly with whatever SIP connections it can reach, I'd be a happy man.. Don't get me wrong, I think Broadvoice needs to communicate better with their customer base, and the latest ongoing outage is, to say the least, very frustrating, but I am willing to cut them some slack because I think VOIP is still in it's infancy, and broadvoice is the only BYOD provider I know that will give unlimited for $20.00/month.. - Andre -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johnathan Corgan Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? JD wrote: Inbound calling has been down for 2 days. Just FYI, mine is back up (408-903) as of about five hours ago. I did just speak with a (Broadvoice) support tech on an entirely unrelated matter (40 min. hold time!), mentioned mine was working, and he seemed to think things were coming back in stages. I've had them for two months now. People may recall a series of emails regarding packet loss through their PNAP link to Sprintlink (my ex-ISP backbone.) I ditched the Sprint BBD fixed-wireless service, got Sonic.net DSL, and have been enjoying pretty high quality voice service since. The packet loss rates at PNAP still show but I think now this shows it's an artificial measure (intentionally dropped non-VOIP packets, all the other potential reasons hashed about in that thread.) In spite of the service outages and long hold times for support, I still want to give them the benefit of the doubt (and my $25 monthly.) It still seems like growing pains vs. incompetency. I tried their web interface to change DIDs, as they now have them in my home area code. The effect was instant, I reconfigured sip.conf with the new number and secret they provide, and something like 3 minutes later was using the new DID. So some things do work well. Wish they did IAX. And ILBC. Not that important to me right now, though. -Johnathan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
I tend to agree about the in-house being the 'stable part'. Like anything else on the internet, if you don't have control of all parts (trunks and phones and dialplans), there are bound to be issues with uptime, and how your equipment responds to 'their' downtime. It reminds me of the headaches I had as an ISP when a BGP4 route wouldn't switch to the redundant carrier, because the main carrier didn't really die, it just stopped transmitting! It's also worth noting the design flaws with IPv4 handling priority packets in the first place. I think most of the little 'gotchas' in VoIP would magically vanish if QoS was something that could be depended upon. All you need is one router to not know how to pass the qos token, and now you don't really have any! Its another example hiw an in-house system can be stable when you hold all the cards. By the time IPv6 gets here, it will be amazingly obsolete... Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- |[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Normandin |Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:00 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? | |I've had Broadvoice for over a year now, and although their outages are |really annoying, the fact that their service costs $20/month unlimited is |what keeps me with them.. | |I have 2 Inbound #'s through them (same account), one in GA (678-253) and |one in CT (203-935), and overall their inbound has been more reliable than |their outbound (minus the past week or so).. | |I have my dialplan try BV first, and then if it cannot use BV for outbound, |it rolls to my pots line(s).. It actually works really well, except that if |BV goes completely toes up Asterisk decides that it doesn't want to do |anything either :-( | |That is what I find the most annoying, quite frankly, BV is having Growing |pains (in my opinion), and I can accept that, haven't put anything critical |on my BV inbound, and 90% of the time BV outbound works fine.. The rest of |the time, the pots take care of outbound, and anyone who calls me calls on |my pots lines (except for family in GA, which is why I have the GA #). | |For me personally, I just think VOIP is 'too' early in the maturity curve |to |really rely on it as a provider.. It's great in-house (medium/large |companies), but for service, I think pots are the way to have rock solid |service for the time being. | |I know of two of my friends that have Vonage as their only inbound numbers |(not via asterisk, via the vonage locked adapters, so it is completely |vonange), and their service also has issues at times.. Granted, I'm not |sure |if it's a true vonage issue, or their internet connection, but nonetheless, |there are still issues.. | |If I could get Asterisk so it just work continue 'working' properly with |whatever SIP connections it can reach, I'd be a happy man.. Don't get me |wrong, I think Broadvoice needs to communicate better with their customer |base, and the latest ongoing outage is, to say the least, very frustrating, |but I am willing to cut them some slack because I think VOIP is still in |it's infancy, and broadvoice is the only BYOD provider I know that will |give |unlimited for $20.00/month.. | | - Andre | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johnathan |Corgan |Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:58 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? | | |JD wrote: | | Inbound | calling has been down for 2 days. | |Just FYI, mine is back up (408-903) as of about five hours ago. | |I did just speak with a (Broadvoice) support tech on an entirely |unrelated matter (40 min. hold time!), mentioned mine was working, and |he seemed to think things were coming back in stages. | |I've had them for two months now. People may recall a series of emails |regarding packet loss through their PNAP link to Sprintlink (my ex-ISP |backbone.) I ditched the Sprint BBD fixed-wireless service, got |Sonic.net DSL, and have been enjoying pretty high quality voice service |since. The packet loss rates at PNAP still show but I think now this |shows it's an artificial measure (intentionally dropped non-VOIP |packets, all the other potential reasons hashed about in that thread.) | |In spite of the service outages and long hold times for support, I still |want to give them the benefit of the doubt (and my $25 monthly.) It |still seems like growing pains vs. incompetency. | |I tried their web interface to change DIDs, as they now have them in my |home area code. The effect was instant, I reconfigured sip.conf with |the new number and secret they provide, and something like 3 minutes |later was using the new DID. So some things do work well. | |Wish they did IAX. And ILBC. Not that important to me right now, though. | |-Johnathan
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
Isn't amazing what has happened in the last five or six years with the Internet. There is no design flaw with IPv4. It was created back when you were in diapers and with todays pda's having more power than the systems back then. An industry protocol that is going strong 30 or more years is amazing in it's own right. How could they see the future of what we are doing today with the protocol. I believe the engineers who designed IPv4 were brilliant men and did a great job designing something that is computer system neutral. Again in the the last few years VoIP has come a long way as the PSTN has had over 100 years to perfect theirs. If we did not have to interface with the PSTN don't you think we would be better off? They didn't have to interface with anybody else. Chris Coulthurst wrote: I tend to agree about the in-house being the 'stable part'. Like anything else on the internet, if you don't have control of all parts (trunks and phones and dialplans), there are bound to be issues with uptime, and how your equipment responds to 'their' downtime. It reminds me of the headaches I had as an ISP when a BGP4 route wouldn't switch to the redundant carrier, because the main carrier didn't really die, it just stopped transmitting! It's also worth noting the design flaws with IPv4 handling priority packets in the first place. I think most of the little 'gotchas' in VoIP would magically vanish if QoS was something that could be depended upon. All you need is one router to not know how to pass the qos token, and now you don't really have any! Its another example hiw an in-house system can be stable when you hold all the cards. By the time IPv6 gets here, it will be amazingly obsolete... Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- |[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Normandin |Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:00 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? | |I've had Broadvoice for over a year now, and although their outages are |really annoying, the fact that their service costs $20/month unlimited is |what keeps me with them.. | |I have 2 Inbound #'s through them (same account), one in GA (678-253) and |one in CT (203-935), and overall their inbound has been more reliable than |their outbound (minus the past week or so).. | |I have my dialplan try BV first, and then if it cannot use BV for outbound, |it rolls to my pots line(s).. It actually works really well, except that if |BV goes completely toes up Asterisk decides that it doesn't want to do |anything either :-( | |That is what I find the most annoying, quite frankly, BV is having Growing |pains (in my opinion), and I can accept that, haven't put anything critical |on my BV inbound, and 90% of the time BV outbound works fine.. The rest of |the time, the pots take care of outbound, and anyone who calls me calls on |my pots lines (except for family in GA, which is why I have the GA #). | |For me personally, I just think VOIP is 'too' early in the maturity curve |to |really rely on it as a provider.. It's great in-house (medium/large |companies), but for service, I think pots are the way to have rock solid |service for the time being. | |I know of two of my friends that have Vonage as their only inbound numbers |(not via asterisk, via the vonage locked adapters, so it is completely |vonange), and their service also has issues at times.. Granted, I'm not |sure |if it's a true vonage issue, or their internet connection, but nonetheless, |there are still issues.. | |If I could get Asterisk so it just work continue 'working' properly with |whatever SIP connections it can reach, I'd be a happy man.. Don't get me |wrong, I think Broadvoice needs to communicate better with their customer |base, and the latest ongoing outage is, to say the least, very frustrating, |but I am willing to cut them some slack because I think VOIP is still in |it's infancy, and broadvoice is the only BYOD provider I know that will |give |unlimited for $20.00/month.. | | - Andre | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johnathan |Corgan |Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:58 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? | | |JD wrote: | | Inbound | calling has been down for 2 days. | |Just FYI, mine is back up (408-903) as of about five hours ago. | |I did just speak with a (Broadvoice) support tech on an entirely |unrelated matter (40 min. hold time!), mentioned mine was working, and |he seemed to think things were coming back in stages. | |I've had them for two months now. People may recall a series of emails |regarding packet loss through their PNAP link to Sprintlink (my ex-ISP |backbone.) I ditched the Sprint BBD fixed-wireless service, got |Sonic.net DSL, and have been enjoying
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
Michael D Schelin wrote: snip Again in the the last few years VoIP has come a long way as the PSTN has had over 100 years to perfect theirs. If we did not have to interface with the PSTN don't you think we would be better off? They didn't have to interface with anybody else. Well, if one studies the history of telephony, one sees that really isn't the case From the earliest common battery manual exchanges, step by step,, panel, and crossbar offices into digital controlled analog switching into full digital switched circuits, service, interconnections was maintained, and not always under the control of one company. There were interface problems that filled books between the various switching schemes, There wouldn't be nearly as many problems if today's engineers read a little of the history, and didn't continue to re-invent and discard schemes from the past. And if VOIP is to succeed in any large way in the foreseeable future, it had better figure out BETTER ways to interface with the PSTN. JMO John Novack ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
To be more specific to my point -- Using the internet today, with the demands of streaming real-time applications, which require a level of QoS wasn't originally designed in to IPv4. With a wide array of mods, patches and additions, there is 'some' support for prioritization. We would be better off with a protocol suite like v6 that not only offers a solid packet-prioritization system, but several key network enhancements as well. Deployment is understandably painstaking. Sure, I agree IPv4 is legendary. But using it with what the internet now demands is like trying to get to the moon with a steam locomotive. Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- |[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D Schelin |Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:17 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? | |Isn't amazing what has happened in the last five or six years with the |Internet. There is no design flaw with IPv4. It was created back when |you were in diapers and with todays pda's having more power than the |systems back then. An industry protocol that is going strong 30 or more |years is amazing in it's own right. How could they see the future of |what we are doing today with the protocol. I believe the engineers who |designed IPv4 were brilliant men and did a great job designing |something that is computer system neutral. | |Again in the the last few years VoIP has come a long way as the PSTN has |had over 100 years to perfect theirs. If we did not have to interface |with the PSTN don't you think we would be better off? They didn't have |to interface with anybody else. | | |Chris Coulthurst wrote: | |I tend to agree about the in-house being the 'stable part'. Like |anything else on the internet, if you don't have control of all parts |(trunks and phones and dialplans), there are bound to be issues with |uptime, and how your equipment responds to 'their' downtime. It reminds |me of the headaches I had as an ISP when a BGP4 route wouldn't switch to |the redundant carrier, because the main carrier didn't really die, it |just stopped transmitting! | |It's also worth noting the design flaws with IPv4 handling priority |packets in the first place. I think most of the little 'gotchas' in |VoIP would magically vanish if QoS was something that could be depended |upon. All you need is one router to not know how to pass the qos token, |and now you don't really have any! Its another example hiw an in-house |system can be stable when you hold all the cards. | |By the time IPv6 gets here, it will be amazingly obsolete... | |Chris Coulthurst |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | ||-Original Message- ||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Normandin ||Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:00 AM ||To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion ||Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service? || ||I've had Broadvoice for over a year now, and although their outages are ||really annoying, the fact that their service costs $20/month unlimited |is ||what keeps me with them.. || ||I have 2 Inbound #'s through them (same account), one in GA (678-253) |and ||one in CT (203-935), and overall their inbound has been more reliable |than ||their outbound (minus the past week or so).. || ||I have my dialplan try BV first, and then if it cannot use BV for |outbound, ||it rolls to my pots line(s).. It actually works really well, except |that if ||BV goes completely toes up Asterisk decides that it doesn't want to do ||anything either :-( || ||That is what I find the most annoying, quite frankly, BV is having |Growing ||pains (in my opinion), and I can accept that, haven't put anything |critical ||on my BV inbound, and 90% of the time BV outbound works fine.. The rest |of ||the time, the pots take care of outbound, and anyone who calls me calls |on ||my pots lines (except for family in GA, which is why I have the GA #). || ||For me personally, I just think VOIP is 'too' early in the maturity |curve ||to ||really rely on it as a provider.. It's great in-house (medium/large ||companies), but for service, I think pots are the way to have rock |solid ||service for the time being. || ||I know of two of my friends that have Vonage as their only inbound |numbers ||(not via asterisk, via the vonage locked adapters, so it is completely ||vonange), and their service also has issues at times.. Granted, I'm not ||sure ||if it's a true vonage issue, or their internet connection, but |nonetheless, ||there are still issues.. || ||If I could get Asterisk so it just work continue 'working' properly |with ||whatever SIP connections it can reach, I'd be a happy man.. Don't get |me ||wrong, I think Broadvoice needs to communicate better with their |customer ||base, and the latest ongoing outage is, to say the least
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
JD wrote: Inbound calling has been down for 2 days. Just FYI, mine is back up (408-903) as of about five hours ago. I did just speak with a (Broadvoice) support tech on an entirely unrelated matter (40 min. hold time!), mentioned mine was working, and he seemed to think things were coming back in stages. I've had them for two months now. People may recall a series of emails regarding packet loss through their PNAP link to Sprintlink (my ex-ISP backbone.) I ditched the Sprint BBD fixed-wireless service, got Sonic.net DSL, and have been enjoying pretty high quality voice service since. The packet loss rates at PNAP still show but I think now this shows it's an artificial measure (intentionally dropped non-VOIP packets, all the other potential reasons hashed about in that thread.) In spite of the service outages and long hold times for support, I still want to give them the benefit of the doubt (and my $25 monthly.) It still seems like growing pains vs. incompetency. I tried their web interface to change DIDs, as they now have them in my home area code. The effect was instant, I reconfigured sip.conf with the new number and secret they provide, and something like 3 minutes later was using the new DID. So some things do work well. Wish they did IAX. And ILBC. Not that important to me right now, though. -Johnathan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
