RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread Josh Roberson
Ok, see, now you're confusing what I said.   Nowhere did I say I had the
102D.  I said he never mentioned that it was the 102, irregardless of
the D.  I *DO* have the 101, which is what he was talking about.  No, it
doesn't mention it's the 101. 

This argument has now proved silly, especially since you're confusing
what I'm saying, with what he supposedly is.

*I CLAIM END OF THREAD!*

--
Josh Roberson
Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costas 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Ok, in addition you are confusing the 102 with the 102D. If you had done
your homework you would have noticed that the 102D (see the big D?) is a
different model.

Than one has the 16x2 LCD and 3 way conferencing. I spent a lot of time
studying these phones.

So no, you don't have that phone. check http://www.chagres.net


-- Original Message --
From: Josh Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:31:43 -0500

My bad... It's a .net, not a .com :P

Oops... Sorry JMB (sheepish grin)

http://www.chagres.net

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Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Low, Adam
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:22 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Josh,

Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention
the sale of any Grandstream phones 

Adam

-Original Message-
From: Josh Roberson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
(direct copy/paste from auction)

-Begin Copy/Paste-


Flash Based OS

Easy to install and manage,
Cost effective,
Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial

Big information and management LCD blue back light 
User friendly keypad 
Universal AC/DC adapter
Ergonomic design
 
 
  
 
25-button keypad 
12-digit caller ID LCD 
Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
Input: 100-240VAC 
Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
 1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
2.UL/CE/FCC
3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
  

Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 

Web-Based Management 

TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 

Free Flash Firmware update 

No User Licenses 

System Restart/ Shutdown 

Password Access control 

1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 

Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 

Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 

 

 
 DSP technology for the best voice quality 

Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
(alaw 
and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 

In and out-off-band DTMF 

Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
speakerphone, 
redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 

Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
DiffServ, MPLS) 

Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 

Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
(Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
(Automatic Gain 
Control) 

-End Copy/Paste-

Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
Grandstream's product brochure.  

Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite
happy
with it.. I will tell you this though:

Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)

/rant

--
Josh Roberson
Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costas 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you
look
at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price
I
thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
year.

I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed
the
Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel
my
bid after telling me what a bad

Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread John Brown (CV)

Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all

We do sell the phones.

http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html

and digium cards

http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html 

plus new things real soon :)

and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
and I'll try like crazy to fix it.

john brown, ceo
chagres technologies, inc

ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
got its name from.  I used to live there ;)


On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
 Josh,
 
 Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention the sale of 
 any Grandstream phones 
 
 Adam
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Roberson
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
 
 Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
 (direct copy/paste from auction)
 
 -Begin Copy/Paste-
 
 
 Flash Based OS
 
 Easy to install and manage,
 Cost effective,
 Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
 Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
 
 Big information and management LCD blue back light 
 User friendly keypad 
 Universal AC/DC adapter
 Ergonomic design
  
  
   
  
 25-button keypad 
 12-digit caller ID LCD 
 Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
 Input: 100-240VAC 
 Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
  1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
 2.UL/CE/FCC
 3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
   
 
 Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 
 
 Web-Based Management 
 
 TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 
 
 Free Flash Firmware update 
 
 No User Licenses 
 
 System Restart/ Shutdown 
 
 Password Access control 
 
 1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 
 
 Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 
 
 Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 
 
  
 
  
  DSP technology for the best voice quality 
 
 Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
 (alaw 
 and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 
 
 In and out-off-band DTMF 
 
 Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
 speakerphone, 
 redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 
 
 Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
 DiffServ, MPLS) 
 
 Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 
 
 Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
 (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
 (Automatic Gain 
 Control) 
 
 -End Copy/Paste-
 
 Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
 102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
 Grandstream's product brochure.  
 
 Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
 with it.. I will tell you this though:
 
 Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
 asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
 
 /rant
 
 --
 Josh Roberson
 Indigent Networks
 1.877.677.9647 x1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costas 
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
 
 I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
 at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
 way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
 thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
 year.
 
 I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
 Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
 phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
 out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
 they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
 bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
 
  Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
 101 as
  the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
 Beware.
 
 There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
 get 
 suckered.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread John Brown (CV)
Grandstream 102D  won't be available until December,
at the earliest.

I have 101's in stock now and can ship same day as
the order is funded.  

102 (not the D model) are on backorder and I expect 
inventory by the end of next week.

Transfering and other functions are really going to be
a matter of what your SIP server does, feature wise.

GAPS is not free.  It starts at $3000 and goes up to 18,000

We have built our own system that we use internally to
configure phones for our customers.



On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:42PM -0400, costas  wrote:
 Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
 How fast can you ship any of the phones?
 
 Also I have question on the phones.
 
 1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only transfer if 
 you have the second line available?
 
 2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From:  John Brown (CV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600
 
 
 Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
 
 We do sell the phones.
 
 http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
 
 and digium cards
 
 http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html 
 
 plus new things real soon :)
 
 and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
 and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
 
 john brown, ceo
 chagres technologies, inc
 
 ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
 got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
  Josh,
  
  Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention the sale of 
  any Grandstream phones 
  
  Adam
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Josh Roberson
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
  
  Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
  (direct copy/paste from auction)
  
  -Begin Copy/Paste-
  
  
  Flash Based OS
  
  Easy to install and manage,
  Cost effective,
  Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
  Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
  
  Big information and management LCD blue back light 
  User friendly keypad 
  Universal AC/DC adapter
  Ergonomic design
   
   

   
  25-button keypad 
  12-digit caller ID LCD 
  Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
  Input: 100-240VAC 
  Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
   1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
  2.UL/CE/FCC
  3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V

  
  Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 
  
  Web-Based Management 
  
  TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 
  
  Free Flash Firmware update 
  
  No User Licenses 
  
  System Restart/ Shutdown 
  
  Password Access control 
  
  1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 
  
  Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 
  
  Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 
  
   
  
   
   DSP technology for the best voice quality 
  
  Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
  (alaw 
  and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 
  
  In and out-off-band DTMF 
  
  Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
  speakerphone, 
  redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 
  
  Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
  DiffServ, MPLS) 
  
  Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 
  
  Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
  (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
  (Automatic Gain 
  Control) 
  
  -End Copy/Paste-
  
  Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
  102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
  Grandstream's product brochure.  
  
  Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
  with it.. I will tell you this though:
  
  Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
  asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
  
  /rant
  
  --
  Josh Roberson
  Indigent Networks
  1.877.677.9647 x1
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costas 
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
  
  I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
  at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
  way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
  thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
  year.
  
  I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
  Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
  phone is not available. I was suprised

Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread Jon Pounder
Can someone post their experiences with these phones together with 
asterisk, and give an impartial listing of what features they find 
indispensible, and others that are a pain to have missing.

What codec configurations do people use these phones in currently with 
asterisk ?

Can someone clarify the transfer questions, and any other related topics as 
well please. For example do they support callwaiting callerid ? (either in 
or out of band in conjunction with asterisk ?)

At 10:52 AM 10/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Grandstream 102D  won't be available until December,
at the earliest.
I have 101's in stock now and can ship same day as
the order is funded.
102 (not the D model) are on backorder and I expect
inventory by the end of next week.
Transfering and other functions are really going to be
a matter of what your SIP server does, feature wise.
GAPS is not free.  It starts at $3000 and goes up to 18,000

We have built our own system that we use internally to
configure phones for our customers.


On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:42PM -0400, costas  wrote:
 Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
 How fast can you ship any of the phones?

 Also I have question on the phones.

 1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only 
transfer if you have the second line available?

 2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?


 -- Original Message --
 From:  John Brown (CV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600

 
 Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
 
 We do sell the phones.
 
 http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
 
 and digium cards
 
 http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html
 
 plus new things real soon :)
 
 and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
 and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
 
 john brown, ceo
 chagres technologies, inc
 
 ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
 got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
  Josh,
 
  Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to 
mention the sale of any Grandstream phones 
 
  Adam
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Josh Roberson
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
 
  Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
  (direct copy/paste from auction)
 
  -Begin Copy/Paste-
 
 
  Flash Based OS
 
  Easy to install and manage,
  Cost effective,
  Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
  Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
 
  Big information and management LCD blue back light
  User friendly keypad
  Universal AC/DC adapter
  Ergonomic design
 
 
 
 
  25-button keypad
  12-digit caller ID LCD
  Universal Switching Power Adaptor
  Input: 100-240VAC
  Output: +5VDC, 400mA,
   1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
  2.UL/CE/FCC
  3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
 
 
  Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix)
 
  Web-Based Management
 
  TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support
 
  Free Flash Firmware update
 
  No User Licenses
 
  System Restart/ Shutdown
 
  Password Access control
 
  1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface)
 
  Support STUN and SIMPLE extension
 
  Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products
 
 
 
 
   DSP technology for the best voice quality
 
  Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
  (alaw
  and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D)
 
  In and out-off-band DTMF
 
  Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
  speakerphone,
  redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator
 
  Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
  DiffServ, MPLS)
 
  Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP
 
  Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
  (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
  (Automatic Gain
  Control)
 
  -End Copy/Paste-
 
  Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
  102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
  Grandstream's product brochure.
 
  Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
  with it.. I will tell you this though:
 
  Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
  asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
 
  /rant
 
  --
  Josh Roberson
  Indigent Networks
  1.877.677.9647 x1
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costas
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
 
  I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you

RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Michael T Farnworth wrote:
 The people at chagres.net appear to sell the phones.

They do in fact sell the phones, as I bought one from them :)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread John Brown (CV)
Hmm, impartial, well I sell them but I'll try :) :)

Bad things:
Base color, white... new colors coming soon
Call waiting ring is a bit annoying
The normal ring is really annoying, they are changing this

good things:
they work
cheap
easy to setup
sound quality very good
multi codec selection


just make sure you are running 1.0.3.81 or NEWER

Yes they support callerID and call waiting callerID

transfer works.  push the button dial the number


hope this helps.  its not flowery because I don't want to
sound like a sales man :)

john brown, ceo
chagres technologies, inc
http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html


On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Jon Pounder wrote:
 Can someone post their experiences with these phones together with 
 asterisk, and give an impartial listing of what features they find 
 indispensible, and others that are a pain to have missing.
 
 What codec configurations do people use these phones in currently with 
 asterisk ?
 
 Can someone clarify the transfer questions, and any other related topics as 
 well please. For example do they support callwaiting callerid ? (either in 
 or out of band in conjunction with asterisk ?)
 
 
 At 10:52 AM 10/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
 Grandstream 102D  won't be available until December,
 at the earliest.
 
 I have 101's in stock now and can ship same day as
 the order is funded.
 
 102 (not the D model) are on backorder and I expect
 inventory by the end of next week.
 
 Transfering and other functions are really going to be
 a matter of what your SIP server does, feature wise.
 
 GAPS is not free.  It starts at $3000 and goes up to 18,000
 
 We have built our own system that we use internally to
 configure phones for our customers.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:42PM -0400, costas  wrote:
   Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
   How fast can you ship any of the phones?
  
   Also I have question on the phones.
  
   1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only 
  transfer if you have the second line available?
  
   2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?
  
  
   -- Original Message --
   From:  John Brown (CV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600
  
   
   Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
   
   We do sell the phones.
   
   http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
   
   and digium cards
   
   http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html
   
   plus new things real soon :)
   
   and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
   and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
   
   john brown, ceo
   chagres technologies, inc
   
   ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
   got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
   
   
   On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
Josh,
   
Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to 
  mention the sale of any Grandstream phones 
   
Adam
   
-Original Message-
From: Josh Roberson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
   
Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
(direct copy/paste from auction)
   
-Begin Copy/Paste-
   
   
Flash Based OS
   
Easy to install and manage,
Cost effective,
Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
   
Big information and management LCD blue back light
User friendly keypad
Universal AC/DC adapter
Ergonomic design
   
   
   
   
25-button keypad
12-digit caller ID LCD
Universal Switching Power Adaptor
Input: 100-240VAC
Output: +5VDC, 400mA,
 1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
2.UL/CE/FCC
3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
   
   
Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix)
   
Web-Based Management
   
TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support
   
Free Flash Firmware update
   
No User Licenses
   
System Restart/ Shutdown
   
Password Access control
   
1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface)
   
Support STUN and SIMPLE extension
   
Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products
   
   
   
   
 DSP technology for the best voice quality
   
Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
(alaw
and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D)
   
In and out-off-band DTMF
   
Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
speakerphone,
redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator
   
Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
DiffServ, MPLS)
   
Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP
   
Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG

Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread John Brown (CV)
Colors other than white seem to be hard to get from GS.

I've been asking for multiple weeks for something other than
white.  I don't have solid ship dates on black or any other
color.

I'll let folks know when we have something other than white.


On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:45:50PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
 do you have the other colors besides white?
 - Original Message - 
 From: costas  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
 
 
  Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
  How fast can you ship any of the phones?
 
  Also I have question on the phones.
 
  1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only
 transfer if you have the second line available?
 
  2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?
 
 
  -- Original Message --
  From:  John Brown (CV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600
 
  
  Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
  
  We do sell the phones.
  
  http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
  
  and digium cards
  
  http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html
  
  plus new things real soon :)
  
  and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
  and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
  
  john brown, ceo
  chagres technologies, inc
  
  ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
  got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
  
  
  On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
   Josh,
  
   Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention
 the sale of any Grandstream phones 
  
   Adam
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Josh Roberson
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
   Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
  
   Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
   (direct copy/paste from auction)
  
   -Begin Copy/Paste-
  
  
   Flash Based OS
  
   Easy to install and manage,
   Cost effective,
   Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
   Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
  
   Big information and management LCD blue back light
   User friendly keypad
   Universal AC/DC adapter
   Ergonomic design
  
  
  
  
   25-button keypad
   12-digit caller ID LCD
   Universal Switching Power Adaptor
   Input: 100-240VAC
   Output: +5VDC, 400mA,
1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
   2.UL/CE/FCC
   3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
  
  
   Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix)
  
   Web-Based Management
  
   TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support
  
   Free Flash Firmware update
  
   No User Licenses
  
   System Restart/ Shutdown
  
   Password Access control
  
   1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface)
  
   Support STUN and SIMPLE extension
  
   Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products
  
  
  
  
DSP technology for the best voice quality
  
   Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
   (alaw
   and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D)
  
   In and out-off-band DTMF
  
   Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
   speakerphone,
   redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator
  
   Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
   DiffServ, MPLS)
  
   Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP
  
   Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
   (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
   (Automatic Gain
   Control)
  
   -End Copy/Paste-
  
   Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
   102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
   Grandstream's product brochure.
  
   Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite
 happy
   with it.. I will tell you this though:
  
   Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
   asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
  
   /rant
  
   --
   Josh Roberson
   Indigent Networks
   1.877.677.9647 x1
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costas
   Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
  
   I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you
 look
   at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
   way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price
 I
   thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
   year.
  
   I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed
 the
   Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault

RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Meyers
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 07:51, Josh Roberson wrote:
 Ok, see, now you're confusing what I said.   Nowhere did I say I had the
 102D.  I said he never mentioned that it was the 102, irregardless of
 the D.  I *DO* have the 101, which is what he was talking about.  No, it
 doesn't mention it's the 101. 
 
 This argument has now proved silly, especially since you're confusing
 what I'm saying, with what he supposedly is.

Actually, when this was first posted to the list, I looked at the eBay
listing.  It specifically said that the phone had a 16x2 display, which
is only found on the 102D.  It seems that the listing has been changed
since then, which would explain the confusion between you two.

Steve
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