RE: [Asterisk-Users] i swtiched to digest
FuturaHost.Com Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the list is so big that many of us are loosing some interesting threads. May be the admins can split the users list in some more specific sub-lists, and the people who wants to receive all the messages can subscribe to the sublists, or have a digest for someones, etc. You'll find that many people will want to be subscribed to all of the mail lists - just in case something interesting is said or asked. You'll also find that some Muppets will post their questions to multiple lists, instead of finding a specific list to use, or will judge that their question/comment has relevance in multiple lists. For instance, how many Asterisk veterans are likely to hang out on asterisk-newbies so that they can answer the same FAQ question every ten minutes, and how many Asterisk users are going to post their questions to the newbie list when they find that there are no experts there? People already post and/or duplicate end-user questions to the developers' list as it is. Splitting up the mail lists will most likely result in more bandwidth use for most people - not less. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W a l s h _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] i swtiched to digest
On November 19, 2004 11:43 am, Kevin Walsh wrote: You'll find that many people will want to be subscribed to all of the mail lists - just in case something interesting is said or asked. Personally I subscribe to -users, -dev and -cvs. You'll also find that some Muppets will post their questions to multiple lists, instead of finding a specific list to use, or will judge that their question/comment has relevance in multiple lists. For instance, how many Asterisk veterans are likely to hang out on asterisk-newbies so that they can answer the same FAQ question every ten minutes, and how many Asterisk users are going to post their questions to the newbie list when they find that there are no experts there? People already post and/or duplicate end-user questions to the developers' list as it is. This is exactly the problem with having a bazillion lists (as well as one of the problems with forums in general, IMO). Splitting up the mail lists will most likely result in more bandwidth use for most people - not less. Precisely. I see nothing wrong with what we have now (at least with the 3 I subscribe to) -- if you (the OP) are missing interesting threads, beat on the clueless ones who post with subject lines like I need help or asterisk problem -- I think the larger lists force the untrained to learn quickly or leave. The signup page should have the posting guidelines and a big fat warning that says FAILURE TO ADHERE TO THESE GUIDELINES WILL HAMPER YOUR ABILITY TO RECEIVE HELP -- Then let them whine on -newbies as to why they can't get anyone to help them. Too much hand-holding results in a mawkish society. People need to learn how to effectively communicate and stay afloat in the sea of information, not try and backfill the waters so they can feel comfortable. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] i swtiched to digest
Hello You'll find that many people will want to be subscribed to all of the mail lists - just in case something interesting is said or asked. You'll also find that some Muppets will post their questions to multiple lists, instead of finding a specific list to use, or will judge that their question/comment has relevance in multiple lists. For instance, how many Asterisk veterans are likely to hang out on asterisk-newbies so that they can answer the same FAQ question every ten minutes, and how many Asterisk users are going to post their questions to the newbie list when they find that there are no experts there? People already post and/or duplicate end-user questions to the developers' list as it is. Splitting up the mail lists will most likely result in more bandwidth use for most people - not less. I believe time is more precious than bandwidth. I also believe that experts answering in the newbies branch are welcome I also think that people who want to be subscribed to many or all sublists, are also welcomed Yes, newbies tends to post on more than one lists, but they learn fast about that, specially if they are teached by those who are subscribed in more than one list. Regards -- Pablo Povarchik Quality Colocation and Dedicated Servers services Colocation facilities include Fremont California, London UK and Trento Italy +--- FuturaHost.Com - Industrial Business Class ISP + | Web Hosting - Dedicated Servers - Colocation | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://futurahost.com/ - (+39) 0461 592710 | Get a high quality full cabinet with 5Mbps full burst included |for only ยค700/month, availability also in London +-+ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] i swtiched to digest
I've ammased 12Mb of email in a weekthis list does generate a LOT of traffic that it gets the point for me that it's really hard to wade through it all. -Chris On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:03:34 +0100, FuturaHost.Com Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello You'll find that many people will want to be subscribed to all of the mail lists - just in case something interesting is said or asked. You'll also find that some Muppets will post their questions to multiple lists, instead of finding a specific list to use, or will judge that their question/comment has relevance in multiple lists. For instance, how many Asterisk veterans are likely to hang out on asterisk-newbies so that they can answer the same FAQ question every ten minutes, and how many Asterisk users are going to post their questions to the newbie list when they find that there are no experts there? People already post and/or duplicate end-user questions to the developers' list as it is. Splitting up the mail lists will most likely result in more bandwidth use for most people - not less. I believe time is more precious than bandwidth. I also believe that experts answering in the newbies branch are welcome I also think that people who want to be subscribed to many or all sublists, are also welcomed Yes, newbies tends to post on more than one lists, but they learn fast about that, specially if they are teached by those who are subscribed in more than one list. Regards -- Pablo Povarchik Quality Colocation and Dedicated Servers services Colocation facilities include Fremont California, London UK and Trento Italy +--- FuturaHost.Com - Industrial Business Class ISP + | Web Hosting - Dedicated Servers - Colocation | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://futurahost.com/ - (+39) 0461 592710 | Get a high quality full cabinet with 5Mbps full burst included |for only 700/month, availability also in London +-+ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] i swtiched to digest
Chris TenHarmsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've ammased 12Mb of email in a weekthis list does generate a LOT of traffic that it gets the point for me that it's really hard to wade through it all. Just do what I do: 1. Scan the subject list and delete anything that doesn't appear to be of interest. 2. Delete any messages that have lazy, top-posted followups. A rule that marks articles that include -Original Message- in the text will find a whole load of these, and will make life a lot easier. Others will be found and deleted as and when they are opened, assuming they passed rule #1, of course. 3. Delete all HTML articles. I don't have a rule for these at the moment, so I usually just delete them as and when I find them. Following the above, you'll find that you're left with only 10% or so of your original mailbox size. This 10% usually results in the articles that are worth reading. Of course, everyone will have their own way of trimming public mail lists to a manageable size. This is mine. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W a l s h _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
