Re: [asterisk-users] Centos kernel 34 vs. 42?

2006-10-14 Thread Remco Barendse

 I'm now running kernel-2.6.9-42.0.3.EL
 
 Not really an answer to your question, but I found out all kernels above
 2.6.16 do a better job on asterisk systems then the ones before that. No idea
 how this is possible as I'm in no way familiar with the inner workings of the
 linux kernel, but I found out after upgrading one system and because it was
 better there I upgraded a lot of other boxes and they all became better. Maybe
 you can get a newer kernel on centos then the 2.6.9

Possibly, but I would have to start worrying about kernel configs, 
compiling the lot and solving the problem of the box no longer being able 
to boot the kernel :)

I looked for CentOS repo's but cannot find one that will throw a plain 
vanilla kernel my way.  There's only a centos plus kernel but these are 
basically the same as the original kernels just with some filesystems 
enabled.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Centos kernel 34 vs. 42?

2006-10-14 Thread Bryan J . Smith
From:  Remco Barendse
 Possibly, but I would have to start worrying about
 kernel configs, compiling the lot and solving the
 problem of the box no longer being able to boot the kernel :)

You'd be better off starting with a Fedora kernel.  Unfortunately RHEL/CentOS 4 
is based on Fedora Core 3 which has been tagged legacy for quite some time now. 
 The last kernel version was around 2.6.13 or so IIRC.  And trying to go with a 
Fedora Core 5, 6 Test or Development (aka Rawhide) might not build because GCC 
has been upgraded to 4.0/4.1 from 3.4.

 I looked for CentOS repo's but cannot find one
 that will throw a plain vanilla kernel my way.

And you're not likely to find one.  RHEL/CentOS is based on a set kernel 
version with minimal changes, backporting required fixes/security updates only 
as necessary.  Red Hat's focus with RHEL is 7 years of SLAs with no ABI 
changes, period - unlike Fedora Core (or Red Hat Linux before it for that 
matter - which did co-exist with RHEL for 2 years before the trademark change).

 There's only a centos plus kernel but these are
 basically the same as the original kernels just with
 some filesystems enabled.

As I hinted above, the changes are just significant enough that Red Hat only 
backports, to the anal power when it comes to RHEL.  And although  Fedora 
Core/Development would be a good start for an updated kernel (far vanilla 
where countless things would break), there is so much that has changed in the 
toolchain and user-space of Fedora Core 4-6 that offers a 2.6.16+ release that 
many people probably haven't bothered.  Especially since most people run 
RHEL/CentOS for its longevity and unchanging ABI/backports approach to an 
almost anal-level.
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RE: [asterisk-users] Centos kernel 34 vs. 42?

2006-10-14 Thread Robert Jenkins
Hi,

I like Centos as a basic platform, but I always then upgrade the kernel to
the latest stable release from kernel.org

The latest ones are using Centos 4.4 x86_64 with kernel 2.6.18

For simplicity, I always start with the .config from the original Centos
kernel.
My install sequence is:

Untar the kernel source in /usr/src/kernels

ln -s /usr/src/kernels/linux-2.6.18 /usr/src/linux (changing 2.6.18 to the
version in use...)

cd to /usr/src/linux  do 'make mrproper' to clean out any leftover garbage.
Older kernel versions often would not build if you missed this step, so I do
it by habit now.

Copy the .config file from the last installed Centos kernel directory (under
/usr/src/kernels/2.6.) to /usr/src/linux

Still in /usr/src/linux, do 'make oldconfig' and just press enter all the
way through.
This should give you a new kernel config matching the Centos distribution.

(If you need anything other than the standard Centos kernel config, make
changes here)

Then do:-
make
make modules
make modules_install
make install
 
If everything builds OK, reboot and get ready to select the new kernel as
the Grub menu appears.

If it all boots OK, you can edit /etc/grub.conf and change the default line
to 0 so the new kernel is booted in future.




 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Bryan J. Smith
 Sent: 14 October 2006 10:48
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com; asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centos kernel 34 vs. 42?
 
 From:  Remco Barendse 
  Possibly, but I would have to start worrying about kernel configs, 
  compiling the lot and solving the problem of the box no 
 longer being 
  able to boot the kernel :)
 
 You'd be better off starting with a Fedora kernel.  
 Unfortunately RHEL/CentOS 4 is based on Fedora Core 3 which 
 has been tagged legacy for quite some time now.  The last 
 kernel version was around 2.6.13 or so IIRC.  And trying to 
 go with a Fedora Core 5, 6 Test or Development (aka Rawhide) 
 might not build because GCC has been upgraded to 4.0/4.1 from 3.4.
 
  I looked for CentOS repo's but cannot find one that will 
 throw a plain 
  vanilla kernel my way.
 
 And you're not likely to find one.  RHEL/CentOS is based on a 
 set kernel version with minimal changes, backporting required 
 fixes/security updates only as necessary.  Red Hat's focus 
 with RHEL is 7 years of SLAs with no ABI changes, period - 
 unlike Fedora Core (or Red Hat Linux before it for that 
 matter - which did co-exist with RHEL for 2 years before the 
 trademark change).
 
  There's only a centos plus kernel but these are basically 
 the same as 
  the original kernels just with some filesystems enabled.
 
 As I hinted above, the changes are just significant enough 
 that Red Hat only backports, to the anal power when it comes 
 to RHEL.  And although  Fedora Core/Development would be a 
 good start for an updated kernel (far vanilla where 
 countless things would break), there is so much that has 
 changed in the toolchain and user-space of Fedora Core 4-6 
 that offers a 2.6.16+ release that many people probably 
 haven't bothered.  Especially since most people run 
 RHEL/CentOS for its longevity and unchanging ABI/backports 
 approach to an almost anal-level.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Centos kernel 34 vs. 42?

2006-10-13 Thread Michiel van Baak

On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Remco Barendse wrote:


Hi list!

I read the trixbox anouncement that they downgraded to kernel  
version 34

to get rid of some audio problems

I'm not running trixbox but normal Centos 4 with asterisk installed. I
tried to find some further info on this but couldn't find any.

Do audio problems occur with normal Centos and the latest kernel  
version

too? (In other words, should every centos user downgrade??)

I'm now running kernel-2.6.9-42.0.3.EL


Not really an answer to your question, but I found out all kernels  
above 2.6.16 do a better job on asterisk systems then the ones before  
that. No idea how this is possible as I'm in no way familiar with the  
inner workings of the linux kernel, but I found out after upgrading  
one system and because it was better there I upgraded a lot of other  
boxes and they all became better. Maybe you can get a newer kernel on  
centos then the 2.6.9


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