Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Fwd: Re: [Asterisk-biz] bellster.net - GREAT advance]

2005-01-24 Thread Steven P. Donegan
Funny, the only thing I addressed was the direct threat of busting the 
contract/acceptable use policy of your Telco/local government. I didn't 
go anywhere near the other risks:

1) you mess up your extensions.conf and some bozo - on purpose or 
otherwise - runs up some insane bill on that nice little donated phone 
line - handle this by doing REALLY specific exten lines and you should 
be fairly OK

2) abuse of the extreme types noted in Duane's original reply - no 
technological solution for this one beyond making sure your outbound 
caller-id is not sent (a darn good idea in any case but no guarantees it 
will stop any more than a casual attempt to 'trace' the call) - and make 
sure you keep your asterisk CDR logs...

Duane wrote:
Also these choice sound bytes from the asterisk-biz list.
Choice bits snipped for brevity...
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Fwd: Re: [Asterisk-biz] bellster.net - GREAT advance]

2005-01-24 Thread Duane
Duane wrote:
I was discussing bellster with a friend of mine, and he made another 
point about this service...

I can't imagine how unsettling it would be for my girlfriend to pick up the 
phone and hear somebody else on the line.  The first time that happened, that'd 
be the end of me sharing the line with anybody.  I can't think of a way that I 
would explain Bellster to a non-geek in a way that makes them comfortable.
I can almost hear her saying, How much do you make a year again?  And how much is unlimited long distance from the phone company?  Is that going to break you financially?  Because if it is, you've either got a drug problem, gambling problem, or a hooker problem.
Made me laugh at least :)
Another small point is that a lot of countries don't have flat rate 
calls, and I highly doubt anyone in those countries would be offering 
their land lines for this kind of service either. It costs me between 20 
and 30c per call to make local calls, so this basically only leaves 
North American and New Zealand as the only viable options that I know of.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Fwd: Re: [Asterisk-biz] bellster.net - GREAT advance]

2005-01-24 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:43:27PM +1100, Duane wrote:
 Another small point is that a lot of countries don't have flat rate 
 calls, and I highly doubt anyone in those countries would be offering 
 their land lines for this kind of service either. It costs me between 20 
 and 30c per call to make local calls, so this basically only leaves 
 North American and New Zealand as the only viable options that I know of.

The situation is the similar in Israel. No calls are cheap, calls to cell
phones are 3-4 times the cost of calls to landlines. The local cable
company is offering cheap VOIP (but not in Jerusalem yet), but I'd
hate to see the combined latency.

Geoff.
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